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Poll: 3DS or PSP2?
3DS - 20 votes
PSP2 - 6 votes
Both - 3 votes
Neither - 10 votes
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Decidingtions, decidingtions. The other PSP2 topic seemed to be on a different track, so I'll ask here.

Which one will you get? PSP2 (NGP) or 3DS? Both? Neither?

It's a 3DS for me. Unlike what seems to be a lot of people, I like the 3D gimmick (as of not having tried it) and all that it includes. The Nintendo exclusives and even the AR tech demos are an easy swing for me. The PSP is cool, but I don't really have any games for it I want to... play. If the PSP2 has a similar catalog, it would be silly for me to get one. It is neat though (if kind of roundy), and a Sly Cooper game for it would be very tempting.

Any games you're looking forward to?

Hm, may as well make this a poll.

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No games in particular (well . . .maybe the non-mercenaries RE for 3DS), but I will be picking up a 3DS. In a year or two the game lineup will be astounding.

 
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Heh, not a bad idea.

My handhelds might as well be home consoles, since I never take them anywhere.

 

  		
  		

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I wish handhelds had worthwhile video output.

 
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I will be first in line to buy that sweet psp2 heck 3ds sounds good to let alone for animal crossing 3ds sign me up!

 
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3DS all the way. I really love the Nintendo exclusives, and seeing all the remakes in 3D will be worth any price for me.

 
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The PSP2 is powerful, but it doesn't really do anything that my current consoles can't already do. The 3DS, even though its specs are closer to the original PSP, does something that I can't get otherwise without buying a new TV.

 
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I don't have a home console, so if I had only one choice it would be psp2. But I'll prolly get both.




 
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I'd really have to wait until I saw official prices of both, but as it stands... the PSP2 appears to be the massive powerhouse handhold while the 3DS kind of sits at on the edge of a gimmick.
Don't get me wrong, I love 3D but the PSP2 looks like it's going to offer so much more beyond that, while the 3DS just kind of hopes that the glamor of 3D never gets old. Heres a hint: It will.

 
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Originally Posted by monkeytherat
3DS all the way. I really love the Nintendo exclusives, and seeing all the remakes in 3D will be worth any price for me.



Screw remakes and re-releases. We've seen these time and time again. Re-releases deserve to be distributed digitally at the most.

I'd rather see a bunch of good exclusive games, not some shitty remake of an already bad game like ocarina of time.

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Prolly the 3DS. The one thing I really don't like is remakes of games that already looked magical. Like OOT.

 
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Originally Posted by GamesterXIII

Originally Posted by monkeytherat
3DS all the way. I really love the Nintendo exclusives, and seeing all the remakes in 3D will be worth any price for me.



Screw remakes and re-releases. We've seen these time and time again. Re-releases deserve to be distributed digitally at the most.

I'd rather see a bunch of good exclusive games, not some shitty remake of an already bad game like ocarina of time.



You have just admitted that you have no taste in games...

What games do you actually like?

 
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HOLY SHIT, I totally read past his post (something I hope becomes a habit). You have to be really screwed in your tiny little brain to state such a thing.

 
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Either that or it is a fine example of trolling...or perhaps both. There is a lot of N64 fans on here, thats just deliberate bait.

I will probably be a 3DS purchaser but it really depends, I would rather just have a portable SNES at the end of the day.

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3rd February, 2011 at 16:36:46 -

Always the possibility that he just doesn't have the same taste in games? Sure he didn't do a good job of making it sounds more like a statement of opinion than a statement of fact, but still...

I've already paid for my 3DS. It is now just a matter of waiting.

 
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Even if it was just an opinion, Gamester is not allowed to have opinions.

 
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It's like saying you dont like ice cream. What kind of crazyness is that?

 
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Originally Posted by Swiss Hagar
It's like saying you dont like ice cream. What kind of crazyness is that?

Funny you should use that example, because I don't particularly care for ice cream. Or cake. And I absolutely hate pie.

 
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Originally Posted by Swiss Hagar
I would rather just have a portable SNES at the end of the day.



One word, Android.

You've got: Gensoid, Snesoid, PSx4Droid, all sorts of fun emulators.

 
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Just to find a little Android machine with good buttons then

 
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Originally Posted by Hayo
Just to find a little Android machine with good buttons then

Xperia Play? http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/26/sony-ericsson-xperia-play-playstation-phone-preview/

Or you could find one of the phones that has a Game Gripper available: http://www.home.game-gripper.com/

 
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Originally Posted by GamesterXIII
not some shitty remake of an already bad game like ocarina of time.



I'm not for remakes either, BUT DID YOU SERIOUSLY CALL OCARINA OF TIME A BAD GAME

That's all the proof I need. You have no real opinions. You are just a troll.

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I agree with the above post

Whether you dislike OOT or not, it's pretty hard to argue it is a bad game.

@ Jon: How can you dislike ice cream, cake and pie? Apple Pie with some ice cream is so yummy!

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Mmm... apple pie.

Mmm... cake.

Mmm... ice cream.

Enough with the dessert talk.

 

  		
  		

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Originally Posted by OldManClayton
Mmm... apple pie.

Mmm... cake.

Mmm... ice cream.

Enough with the dessert talk.



These are the real issues people want to discuss! . Erm yes...

 
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I don't blame Nintendo for doing remakes...
the younger gamers might not have played them yet.

 
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Me neither, but they have re-released so much. I mean I had a NES, then I had the same games again on All Stars. Then I had the same games again on the GBA. I did see the other day All Stars has been re-released for the Wii. I guess that's a good thing for the younger generations mind.

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Originally Posted by Swiss Hagar
It's like saying you dont like ice cream. What kind of crazyness is that?



Ahaha I have a co-worker that doesn't care much for icecream OR cake . . .and a friend that doesn't like cake. I can kind of understand not liking cake, but ice cream? Crazy.


I love zelda games usually. Link to the Past is my favorite. Links awakening was alright and adventures of link was pretty good too and is severely under-rated. I felt like OoT was mediocre at best in just about every aspect - gameplay, controls - partially due to that god awful controller, dungeon design, difficulty curve, etc. I got wind waker for xmas from a friend, but have only watched another friend play the first 30 minutes or so . . . pretty sure I'll love the game once I finally get to play it. I haven't had time to play the majoras mask file I started a few weeks ago so I have no opinion on it yet, besides that I hate the controls because they are the same as OoT's.

That said, okami, pikmin, super metroid, metroid, megaman x (1,2,4) and the nes ones, sonic adventure 1/2, sonic 1,2,3,knuckles etc., Unreal Tournament 99, rune factory, secret of mana/evermore, legend of mana, ninja gaiden (xbox), tales of the abyss, pokemon gold/silver/heartgold/soulsilver, terranigma, bangai-o, power stone 1, mushihime-sama futari 1.5, TMNT 2 the arcade game, TMNT 4 turtles in time, super mario RPG, grandia 1 and 2, skies of arcadia, stepmania, in the groove 2, final fantasy 1,4,6,7, castlevania, contra 1 and alien wars, Resident Evil:Code Veronic, RE4, RE5, Yoshi's Island (NOT STORY), DKC 1,2,3, returns, Star Fox SNES, Killer Instinct, Illusion of Gaia, Punchout, earth worm jim 1 (genesis), Kirby nes, rocket knight adventures, goemon (n64), gradius, The Lion King (gamegear + genesis + haha), jungle strike, ys: oath in felghana, phantasy star online, and Monster hunter Tri. Oh and Sin and Punishment is probably my favorite N64 game and possibly the only one I really enjoy immensely.

Those are just a few of the games that I like - off the top of my head.

I have okamiden pre-ordered and I'm preordering pokemon black + white next week - radiant historia soon, and possibly some others. I might be picking up a 3DS with kid icarus at launch as well given I have quite a bit of money saved up in best buy cards from xmas/birthday.


I just have an extreme dislike (HATRED ) for ocarina of time.

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Cannot forget the demons souls is an awesome game and the sequel is coming out this year in japan. Wee.




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People are allowed to dislike games that are generally considered popular

Take me, for instance. I absolutely cannot stand the Gran Turismo games, despite them all (apart from maybe the latest version) getting good scores.

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Dislike and calling a game bad are two enitrely different things, Circy. There is a distinction. I may dislike game, but I will not call it bad just becuase I do not like it.

The N64 controller was pretty good when you got used to it, and I have hands like George Foreman and I had no problems with it. Anyway you have redeemed yourself a bit Clyde Frog, by mentioning A Link To The Past as your favourite Zelda

 
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Originally Posted by Swiss Hagar
Dislike and calling a game bad are two enitrely different things, Circy. There is a distinction. I may dislike game, but I will not call it bad just becuase I do not like it.

The N64 controller was pretty good when you got used to it, and I have hands like George Foreman and I had no problems with it. Anyway you have redeemed yourself a bit Clyde Frog, by mentioning A Link To The Past as your favourite Zelda



Selective interpretation/taking it too seriously . Its quite obviously an opinion . . . no one person controls what everyone thinks about something. I just happen to think the game is god awful/not fun to play and severely over-rated.

On the subject of controllers : I have huge hands as well and I still think it is possibly the worst controller ever made. The control stick on it broke all the time too haha. I also think that the GC controller is a humongous pile as the button layout is completely random. HUGE A Button, tiny B button, super bouncy triggers, one random normal trigger, awkward X/Y button shape + location What the hell were they thinking? I tried playing Megaman X on a GC to show some friends a 45-50 minute Megaman X 100% speedrun and I had a hell of a time dashing and jumping at the same time. As for Wii . . . I think the only problem is that the analog stick doesn't provide a very good range of motion like Xbox 360 ones do. If it were like the 360 ones it would be a bit more comfortable and much more practical. Its usable at least.



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"I'd rather see a bunch of good exclusive games, not some shitty remake of an already bad game like ocarina of time"

"I just happen to think the game is god awful/not fun to play and severely over-rated." Couldn't you have just said that in the first place?

 
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The gamecube controller is one of my favorites.

Then again, I don't mind the 64 controller all too much.

I hope the 3DS isn't awkward to hold while using the slidepad or stylus. Some games that use the buttons and stylus at the same time on the DS are carpal tunnel waiting to happen.

 

  		
  		

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My posts was also obviously opinion, but only my post got pointed at (and the admins wonder why people are uppety). Gamecube controllers was awesome. The whole point of the button size and layout was determined upon the frequency of their use, the GC controllers feel natural to me. I would rather have a GC controller over the Wii Remotes et al anyday.

Best controller for me is SNES/Dual Shock (which Sony blatantly ripped off)/GC.

Anyway shall we get back on topic?



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Unannounced games you want to be announced. Even absurd ones.

3DS:
New Zelda
New Mario
New Metroid
(What a fanboy!)
Portal
Halo
Other... stuff.

PSP2:
I already mentioned Sly Cooper.

Hmm... slightly lopsided, it seems.

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Warioware, I'm interested in what the 3d would do for it

Psp2
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I was wondering if the 3DS would make a nice emulation handheld. GBA and DS could run NES and SNES emulators but lacked the resolution to do so nicely.

 
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The 3DS has a resolution of 400x240 (for the upper screen) which should be sufficient for most retro games.

 
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Originally Posted by OldManClayton
Unannounced games you want to be announced. Even absurd ones.

3DS:
New Zelda
New Mario
New Metroid
(What a fanboy!)
Portal
Halo
Other... stuff.

PSP2:
I already mentioned Sly Cooper.

Hmm... slightly lopsided, it seems.



Portal would be more likely to be on the PSP2 since it's already on the Playstation 3.
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I would rather see original games than watered down PC/360/PS3 titles.

 
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Well, if they had a prototype of Halo for the DS, it's not beyond imagining. They seem to be pushing Windows Phone 7 as their mobile connection to XBOX though. I said "even absurd ones."

Phredreeke, I would too. But if we're going to list, it's got to pull from established stuff unless we're going to share our ideas for our own games for it.

 

  		
  		

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PSP2 is meant to have decent graphics, plus it has 2 joysticks (so 3DS will probably only be good for 2D games). But then again, I don't particularly like playing on handhelds any more, screens are far too small, if they were at least 7 or more inches I might consider it.

Wouldn't mind trying the OoT remake though, since I didn't play all of OoT before - the N64 graphics are awful.

 
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Personally, battery life has always put me in a state of paranoid when it comes to handheld gaming anymore. I know it's because I use a phone to play games and not a hand held gaming system like I probably should, but idk I mean I would rather play Fruit Ninja or Angry Birds when I'm on my break at work or on the bus when I'm not listening to music or watching some TYT on Youtube.

I say both look to have a solid niche and shouldn't really be compared to one another. The 3DS with it's ability to play 3D movies would be a selling point for me. However an all around gaming console-like experience like the PSP2 seems to offer, is also very appealing. Neither however seem to justify me holding something that big and bulky in my pocket, when I'm paranoid to drain it's battery down to the point where it's an expensive paperweight until I get it home. I'd be more interested in getting something like a Kindle or some kind of eReader.

I already hold a Droid in my right pocket and a ZuneHD in my left pocket.

Nah, but seriously. Both look like solid strives forward and if I had the money to drop for one or the other, I'd probably spoil myself on one or the other.

 
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You could always just buy a Dingoo like I did, it's basically a SNES controller with a screen, looks pretty and runs NES, SNES, GB, GBC, GBA, Sega, C64, Mame, ScummVM, PSX(kinda) and a lot more.....I have like 5000 games on it lol....

Google it, you can get one for like....$60 USD or so, I got mine for 30 bucks lol

 
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Just looked into the Dingoo..it does seem kind of crappy even for SNES emulation.

 
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5th February, 2011 at 21:11:57 -

Something with a "cat" and a "tree", darn I wish I knew this expression in English.

So I probably will wait for about a year or two and then I might buy the 3DS because it's a nice little system with some classic games. However the NGP might be able to emulate those classic games too ...

And what about homebrew support? Sending homebrew wirelessly to the 3DS would be awesome.

 
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There was an emulator for the DS on the original psp, it ran some games full speed.
Phoenix Wright
I had to use the analog stick to tap on the touch screen though.

Yeah, it was better to just play it on my DS, but I like to just mess around with my hardware sometimes.


However, this time around the psp is about as fast as my PC, annd it has a touch screen.

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I've noticed many people remark on Dingoo's SNES emulation ability; I've never once had any issues with frame rates, or sounds, with SNES emulation (unless of course running mode7 which many emulators scream at).

I love my Dingoo (I did flash the NAND to run Linux [Dingux], but to be honest I didn't see any advantage... At least I have the possibility though... Dual-boot FTW)

 
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Back on track:

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/02/11/cave-story-3d-is-a-fully-reconstructed-port-for-3ds/

 

  		
  		

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Paying for a game I can play for free on my computer... Tempting

 
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Nice, I like it.

Although I hope they have mode that allows players to switch back to the old graphics mode.

It seems like a different game with those graphics.

 
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Will Cave Story 3DS make use of the 'real cinematic 3D view' or will it just be the 2D version with 3D graphics like the new super mario bros for the nds was?

PS: I am starting to favor the 3DS slightly ..

 
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I believe it'll still be 2D... kind of.

Did we already address the absurdity of the 3DS' price and the fact that I'll probably still get one anyway?

 

  		
  		

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The 3DS is still less than a third of the price of the cheapest 3DTV I could find.

 
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But it has an extremely small screen compared to a TV.

 
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3DS Megaman legends three is coming out for it.

 
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Originally Posted by alastair john jack
But it has an extremely small screen compared to a TV.



That's true but most of us already have a TV

 
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Paper Mario will also be excellent, no doubt.

For those of you that have played the other three, which was your favorite? It was Gamecube > N64 > Wii for me. I was disappointed that Super Paper Mario wasn't a Paper Mario game.

 

  		
  		

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Originally Posted by OldManClayton
I was disappointed that Super Paper Mario wasn't a Paper Mario game.

It was a Paper Mario game, just not an RPG.

 
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You knew what I meant.

Just as Star Fox Adventures was not a Star Fox game.



 

  		
  		

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Originally Posted by SiLVERFIRE
I'd really have to wait until I saw official prices of both, but as it stands... the PSP2 appears to be the massive powerhouse handhold while the 3DS kind of sits at on the edge of a gimmick.
Don't get me wrong, I love 3D but the PSP2 looks like it's going to offer so much more beyond that, while the 3DS just kind of hopes that the glamor of 3D never gets old. Heres a hint: It will.



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NGP don't have a UMD Driver soo, I can't stand consoles like this... you know I like to have game box, the card or CD witch software- I don't want to download it from WEB (for example), it will be a lot of problems to cracked games on this :/ May they have a new patent, a new driver??
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Well, the NGP will also have some games delivered on a flash-based medium.

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Ah a new propriety flash based Sony format, kind of looks like an SD Card with a different form factor. How much are they going to over price it this time ?

I detest companies using their own proprietry formats be it for storage, connectors and that type of thing as they are usually overpriced and exist for no other reason but to increase their profits be it through sales or evading licensing of other common formats.

About time we had some standards between all products.

 
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Originally Posted by garsa
NGP don't have a UMD Driver soo, I can't stand consoles like this... you know I like to have game box, the card or CD witch software- I don't want to download it from WEB (for example), it will be a lot of problems to cracked games on this :/ May they have a new patent, a new driver??
However from all of this consoles I like my GBC



The UMD drive would add extra manufacturing cost. I don't think Sony wants to spend any extra money on a legacy format. They even removed PS2 support from PS3s and that way way more popular than the PSP!

Downloaded games aren't necessarily less "secure" than games on physical media. Look at the Xbox 360 for example. Flashed drives are common but they'll only run discbased games. Except for JTAG and dev units there have been no way to pirate downloadable games. The Wii is another example, drivechips were around since launch but it wasn't until 2008 that people found ways to pirate virtual console and wiiware games.

 
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Originally Posted by DCI Hagar
About time we had some standards between all products.



Hear hear. We already have the standard (SD Cards), we just need companies to stop "supplementing" it. Sony's cards drive me nuts!

Though I'll forgive them in this case, because it's specifically for holding games, just as a DS card does.

 

  		
  		

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Didn't the "S" of SD mean Secure?

And yes that's a rhetorical question because it does.

I believe the 3DS will have an SD slot, so no need for a new 3DS gamecard format? Sure it has one for the simple reason of security by obscurity, people need to reverse engineer the card's format and specs before they can use it and that will take some time or a little depending on which genius is working on it.

Same reason holds for the PSP2 as well, but of course they really needed that upgrade to a flash based disk format. Because that has more advantages over the old umd system.

 
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I think the 3DS will use the same gamecards as DS does for games, while using a SD card as extra storage.

 
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Reminds me of the little notch in the gameboy's cartridges. Must have been thinking ahead. (Though it seems strange that they removed the feature, since it easily disabled removing the cartridge while the system was on...)

 

  		
  		

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I can't help but think NGP stands for Neo geo pocket whenever I see the link in the 'Latest posts' section.

 
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I use to always take the DS cartridges out when it was "sleeping" by accident lol.

 
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Well those VCR sized consoles still use disc based format like DVD9 and BD. But that's not really an option for handhelds because they actually should minimize power usage so the disc based format is left out. Although I have no idea why Sony kept UMD for their psp, they probably had a brilliant idea which failed or something.

 
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Before the rom chip there were punch cards.
I'd like to see a handheld that dares to use audio cassettes for storage.

 
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Sony chose UMD for the PSP because it was the only economic option for large capacity storage. Remember, back when PSP launched it was sold with a 32 megabyte memory card!

 
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Yes i remember this fact... It was really strange for me, because when PSP was launched my mobile phone had 256 MB memory card... In PSP it was only for game saves- at the begining...

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Papyrus? Stone? Clay tablets? Rock drawings? Whispering in the wind ...

 
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