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»xerus Registered 28/06/2002 Points 675	18th July, 2007 at 20:59:11 - The difference in stability between MMF1.5 and MMF2 is pretty big for me. I remember having all sorts of just odd problems in MMF1.5 that seemed to be completely unsolvable, but never had any of those strange happenings when using MMF2. n/a
LIJI Flava's Smarter Twin Registered 29/08/2006 Points 2032	19th July, 2007 at 03:17:01 - http://web.archive.org/web/20060604024654/http://mmf2.ovine.net/ New properties window Frame rate and v-sync Independent scrolling layers New combined picture and animation editor Alpha channels for all objects Better sound support Multiple movements Pinball movement and the SDK More object properties Alterable strings More ink effects + SDK coming soon Event editor sub groups More built in conditions, actions and expressions. Improved expression editor The runtime debugger More window settings Global strings More frame properties Data element Ediot Inserting objects - better dialog Project workspace New dynamic properties - rotate and scale Actives Object groups File open previews Selection modes Improved built in installer Customizable Images in menus Joysticks Better icon support Service Unavailable
alastair john jack BANNED Registered 01/10/2004 Points 294	19th July, 2007 at 04:29:47 - Will Clickteam make MMF2 cheaper than construct now? lol
DaVince This fool just HAD to have a custom rating Registered 04/09/2004 Points 7998	19th July, 2007 at 08:01:25 - LIJI: A lot of these seem to be pretty minor, and they could have added so much more. There were some great suggestions out there which never made it into MMF2 (else statement?! heh). Old member (~2004-2007).
Tim I'm on here way too much Registered 25/08/2006 Points 132	19th July, 2007 at 08:27:12 - Else statement would probably be the EASIEST thing to implement and the most useful thing to add too. But? no. http://www.SilverNova.co.uk
Dustin Gunn Gnarly Tubular Way Cool Awesome Groovy Mondo Registered 15/12/2004 Points 2659	19th July, 2007 at 11:04:04 - Can the Construct equivalent of qualifiers turn global? That was always the number one flaw in MMF for me, because it means you have to copy your main code EVERY SINGLE FUCKING FRAME and kills any kind of big project rather swiftly unless it's got a simple engine you can be satisfied that is done and not in need of any changes. n/a
LIJI Flava's Smarter Twin Registered 29/08/2006 Points 2032	19th July, 2007 at 11:50:01 - Changeable Frame rate Independent scrolling layers Movement SDK Alterable strings Ink Effects, image filter and sound dilter SDKs (under development) Improved expression editor The runtime debugger Rotate and scale Actives Object groups These are the major changes. yet there are many, many, many other minor changes that makes the change bigger than you think. Service Unavailable
Tim I'm on here way too much Registered 25/08/2006 Points 132	19th July, 2007 at 12:17:40 - I thought there was a way of making object groups?! I'm sure of it! I saw the source to something once that had all enemies as a group which you could manipulate. Or is this different? :\ A code editor thing would be nice too ¬_¬ Pardon my ignorance, but what's MMF compile in again? C aint it? If anything, that's what GM has above MMF at the moment. http://www.SilverNova.co.uk
»xerus Registered 28/06/2002 Points 675	19th July, 2007 at 12:49:33 - "Can the Construct equivalent of qualifiers turn global? That was always the number one flaw in MMF for me, because it means you have to copy your main code EVERY SINGLE FUCKING FRAME and kills any kind of big project rather swiftly unless it's got a simple engine you can be satisfied that is done and not in need of any changes." Not exactly, but in Construct you can actually call different event sheets. So what you would do is make an event sheet that is your main engine or code, and then at the start of every level say "Include Event Sheet engine" or something. n/a
LIJI Flava's Smarter Twin Registered 29/08/2006 Points 2032	19th July, 2007 at 13:08:40 - Actually I disagree about GM and MMF. GM is a far-from-being-complete-scripting-language meshed up with a GUI and a level editor. It's so annoying to use that it took make ages to make a simple breakout game. Service Unavailable
Pixelthief Dedicated klik scientist Registered 02/01/2002 Points 3419	19th July, 2007 at 14:27:27 - but its a scripting language nonetheless. I think the real reason that it doesnt matter is that it doesn't compile into a major language like C or C++. Say you had a compiler/editor like construct, that would allow you to create grid-based coding, and then freely compile and decompile between the event grid and standard c++ code; now THAT would accomplish something. Of course, thats alot more basic then the actual stuff in question. Gridquest V2.00 is out!! http://www.create-games.com/download.asp?id=7456
Tim I'm on here way too much Registered 25/08/2006 Points 132	19th July, 2007 at 14:55:53 - Dreamweaver style code entry etc vs MMF2... now that would be interesting! http://www.SilverNova.co.uk
LIJI Flava's Smarter Twin Registered 29/08/2006 Points 2032	19th July, 2007 at 14:59:00 - "Say you had a compiler/editor like construct, that would allow you to create grid-based coding, and then freely compile and decompile between the event grid and standard c++ code; now THAT would accomplish something. Of course, thats alot more basic then the actual stuff in question." Tell me when that happens, I can't see it happening soon. Service Unavailable
nim Registered 17/05/2002 Points 7233	19th July, 2007 at 15:30:18 - Jamagic FTW //
DaVince This fool just HAD to have a custom rating Registered 04/09/2004 Points 7998	19th July, 2007 at 16:47:14 - Pixelthief, learn the difference between a scripting system and a programming language. The scripts in GM aren't compiled (well, maybe bytecode compiled, but still not REALLY compiled), they are interpreted by the GM engine. MMF is powerful enough to make your own scripting language (in an extension or not!) and call most MMF functions through there. It'd be difficult though, but at least you'd have a scripting language. There's also always the LUA extension. Old member (~2004-2007).
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