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Chloe Sagal

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25th February, 2009 at 08:25:54 -

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something like that maybe? i think it kind of makes the images stand out a bit more... maybe you could do something with the back part, just subtley...

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25th February, 2009 at 09:09:22 -

I can't really say they look that good. You should maybe redesign the cover. The font is a bit hard to read, and the colors blend too much. You should google for professional cover designs of some famous books from the same genre. Cause to be honest, I don't think a publisher might really like that kind of cover (I know cause I was in this biz for a short time).


EDIT: Take a look at these two links and you'll see what I mean

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http://covers.fwis.com/

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Chloe Sagal

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25th February, 2009 at 15:02:22 -

i dont have a problem with the font, heck if i can read my chickenscratch i can read anything. the glass backgrounds look very good actually, the darker colors make them stand out alot more.

and yes i did use the magic wand tool! (also the paintbrush and blur tool to get rid of the little outline, they be my friends)

 
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25th February, 2009 at 16:38:49 -

It's not just about the font. The cover of the book should mainly tell the story right away (similarly to the font). When I looked at your cover and your descriptions of the book, it seems pretty different. That was my main problem. But you make the last choice

 
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25th February, 2009 at 17:43:40 -

Meh i personally think you are trying to convey the whole story on the cover. You dont need anything fancy! You just need a white or maybe black backround with your symbols but on something like a stone or something i dont know, and just leave it as that with the title under it.

Your making it far too complicated with a textured background and textured pictures and funky writing.

Book covers i mean are like the fellow ship of the ring cover:

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See? How its just the title and then the story related picture in the middle. You dont want to out right give away whats in the book on the back either, it looks like youve written alot of info on it on the back when you just want to pull the person into reading it not tell them what happens!

 
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25th February, 2009 at 19:42:41 -

Ok, I did a sample book cover on photoshop to portray what is in my mind. This book cover has nothing to do with your story or cover examples, but it should be informative

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Also like Joellie said, you needn't write that much information on the back of the cover. The cover of the book is pretty important, but don't overfill it with lots of images, it will make you look novice. Like I said before, the cover has to somewhat get the attention of your story by a simple portrayal of your story. like on my example cover.

Don't add photoshop textures, gradients and other over-complex stuff

 
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26th February, 2009 at 02:57:30 -

I dunno man, I think the info on the back of the cover is adequate enough. I changed it after Adam pointed out it gave away too much. I dont mention any plot twists, all I mention is two brothers and their quest. There isnt even a mention of what kind of quest and why. I dont know, I might as well leave it blank if I have to shorten it further.

And I do like the image you made. The yellow throws me off though, for some reason I dont like the color. However, if every book is just as bland as you say, what makes people notice my book more? I'd say be funky and bold so people notice the cover. I guess there's two ways at looking at almost anything.

Hmm, if I recall correctly the harry potter covers were quite complex as well, especially the blue Order of The Phoenix cover. Everything was blue. I think it was one of the best covers though. Have a look and tell me what you think about it.

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cant even make out the name of the author in this one.

Image same here on the left one.

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What I'm trying to say is dont tell me "a book cover is supposed to be this way because all book covers are this way". Eh, I really dont care about conformity or tradition. What I need is something that will stand out of the all the other books. And sadly, the image you made seems like a very typical suspense/thriller book cover to be honest. What I'm asking is if you're browsing through books in a store, is my cover going to catch your eye? Since its all old parchment style, will it stand out enough for you to pick it up and look at the back?

Forget the fonts, those can be changed easily.

 
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26th February, 2009 at 03:02:46 -

Well, first of all... there are a few images on this page that did not need to be posted. >_>

Standing out is all well and good--busy is not. The Harry Potter covers had a lot of stuff on them, but they didn't overwhelm your senses. That particular parchment texture has so many varying colors and notches in the edges that it's confusing. There has to be a balance.

 

  		
  		

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26th February, 2009 at 03:41:48 -

If you kinda replicate Mr. Green's little mock-up, and have those symbols in the middle, it would look great.

The parchment and font together look corny, like something someone would do for a school project about pirates or medieval times. I don't know what else to suggest because I know nothing about the story, but the symbols are a good image to use.

 
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26th February, 2009 at 06:29:47 -

If it's possible for you to upload the symbol here, I can show you what a simplisctic but powerful cover can be

 
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26th February, 2009 at 08:34:17 -

bgk if you wanted it.
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the symbol itself.
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Your help is most welcome and appreciated.

 
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26th February, 2009 at 09:17:32 -

Ok, I'll try to make a nice mock-up when I'm free

 
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26th February, 2009 at 11:12:49 -

@ Old Man Clayton n everyone else - Sorry. Sometimes I can be oblivious. Seems like the admins deleted that post so all's well

 
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26th February, 2009 at 20:21:36 -

I took a shot at a mock-up. This is what I came up with:
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Your covers are all lacking your name on the spine. The red box on the spine is where the publisher's logo would go. You also did not make space for the ISBN code on the back cover. This cover is a paperback design, not for a hard cover like yours.

And here are the general guidelines I came up with and used to create the cover:
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The red border on the back and front cover is the margin. No text was allowed to overflow into these areas, though the symbol was. The spine is nicely divided, and none of the elements overlap the black glowing edges, allowing the spine content to stay off the front/back covers.

The overall effect I was going for was to make the cover look like a tome. The border has a gilded look to it, the background texture has a leathery look going for it. The title text has a metallic look to it to compliment the gilded border (though the colours do not match as well as I'd like); the metallic look makes text look nice, but some readability was sacrificed to achieve this (the A's are not as crisp as they should be). I also altered the symbol to give it more of a glowing runic look, mostly to stand out from the dark background. The font of the title is Lohengrin, I found it on dafont.com, while all other text is Calibri. The font on the ISBN space is OCR-A Extended.

What I would change about this design is I would move the subtitle text on the front cover down a few points, while I would move the subtitle on the spine up (reader's left) a few points. Also on the spine, I would move the name space down a point or two, as well as shrink the symbol a little bit. The margin on the back cover text is also rather small on the top and left, so that would be increased to give more space between the border and the text and make it easier to read. In regards to the border, it would ideally be slightly (very slightly) more orange, to match the symbol and title better. The title would be desaturated and lightened some so that it's closer to the border colour, too. I'm not entirely fond of how the border looks (the lines I like, the texture behind that I don't), so it'd need some actual brushwork to make it look interesting and less amatuer. The same applies to the background texture, needing actual work instead of using the "render clouds" filter and shrinking it to fit. The symbol on the front cover just looks a mess with the effects and should be redrawn to fit, with the overall colour slightly less saturated. The symbol on the back also needs to be toned down so it doesn't affect the readability of the text, perhaps moved down some. Less text would also be nice, allowing the text and symbol to be mostly exclusive.

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26th February, 2009 at 21:47:25 -

I like your basic idea quite a lot. At first I thought wth is this? But when I think of the cover in 3d, actually on a book, it makes much more sense. Seems good but there's a few problems with it. Don't take this the wrong way though, I really do appreciate what you are doing. I'm just stating my opinion. I think the cover seems a bit chaotic. The "Sacred Heart" text and my name for instance, are completely different than the rest. The symbol itself doesnt confrom all too well. I think there's way too many contrasting colors and I'm not feeling a united theme from the cover. But still, thanks a bunch. Gives me ideas.

 
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