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Lukas Hägg



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30th March, 2004 at 09:19:13 -

Well I've been working with TGF for a couple of years now. I've become quite good at kliking (except I haven't figured out cutom movement or advanced math yet ^^)
But now I feel that TGF puts a limit to what I can do.
I love 2D games, and where I come from I could probably be considered the last defender of the 2D games
BUT 3D ain't that bad either. I know that Jamagic also can do 2D games (obviously).
My question is:
Should I go with the almighty MMF, or should I try on Jamagic?

I'm asking this because I only have enough money to buy one of them.

 
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Pete Nattress

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30th March, 2004 at 10:34:21 -

jama will require much more application on your part. you will have to learn a new language, and unless you know java you might find that hard. MMF is merely a step up from TGF so once you get used to the new interface it is almost the same, the only difference being that it's far more functional. so it's not just a question of money, but also time. if you plan on a career in programming jama may be a step in the right direction, but if you want to keeop game making as a hobby you're best off sticking with MMF.

 
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30th March, 2004 at 10:58:08 -

Remember both apps have demos so you can try them out.

 
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Mr Icekirby



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30th March, 2004 at 17:09:12 -

demos are evil... i tryed both demos and hated both for their confusing structure... but no i own mmf and i like it, demos are not always a good way to adjust

 
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Zane



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30th March, 2004 at 18:06:50 -

yes but they allow you to try before you buy, which is a good idea when spending $100 on a program

 
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30th March, 2004 at 19:17:06 -

"demos are evil... i tryed both demos and hated both for their confusing structure... but no i own mmf and i like it, demos are not always a good way to adjust"

so it takes more than 30 days to get used to mmf?

but i bet jamaigc takes longer since its uses scripting

 
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30th March, 2004 at 19:22:00 -

i downoaded the jamagic demo a while ago, but i had absoulutly no clue about scrpting, so i did'nt do very good on it
if i downloaded it now id probably do a bit better, but i have dark basic (and im actually quite good at it) now, so i dont really need jamajic

 
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Kramy



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30th March, 2004 at 19:29:22 -

I downloaded the TGF demo, and it wouldn't let me create new frames.(so I bought it) I downloaded the MMF demo and it crashed with an illegal opperation when starting.(so I bought it) I downloaded the Jamagic Demo, and due to my system clock being set wrong it locked me out before I knew a bit about Jamascript.(so I bought it)

Jamagic can do more than MMF, but MMF is easier to learn/use. MMF is slower though.

Right now I'm busy constructing a 2D engine in Jamagic. Currently it only has tile-scrolling, but it does that at 160fps.

Still, as Pete said, MMF is probably best unless you plan on a career in programming.(Which I do)

 
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Kirby Smith

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30th March, 2004 at 19:30:36 -

If you're planning to stick with 2D, I'd go with Multimedia Fusion. Why spend a ton of time learning a new language when you could be making games?

 
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Lukas Hägg



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31st March, 2004 at 01:24:41 -

I was aware of the fact that I'd had to learn the Jama language in order to use it. And I wasn't afraid of it either. (In fact I think it would be fun to actually do some scripting by MYSELF, and not rely on a "ready-to-do-your-job" program) now don't think that I spit on TGF and MMF. Those are wonderful programs and I love'em.
But it would be cool to actually know a scripting language (and feel more professional when scripting)
When I read about Jama and it's scripting language and it didn't seem too hard to learn (read about all the basic, fundamental stuff)

I'm also going for the pro versions. Why? Because I know that if I buy the cheaper version I'll eventually start asking myself "WHY DIDN'T I BUY THE PRO VERSION???" (Did that with TGF) You can all debate wether I'm a stupid idiot or a smart guy buying PRO- versions. That won't change my thinking.

So where the fuck am I going with this post???
Nowhere actually, I just wanted to explain the way I think about this. But I will probably get MMF ^^

 
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Mr Icekirby



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31st March, 2004 at 02:47:04 -

im too lazy to learn new code, otherwise i would have learned C++ years ago

 
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Hagar

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31st March, 2004 at 04:32:02 -

Get Dev C++ and the SDL/Opengl librarys, faster, smoother and better than mmf/jama and they are 100% free.

ANd easy too if you have a good knowledge of C (i only know C really not c++)

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31st March, 2004 at 13:23:20 -

dev c++ (by bloodshed software):

http://www.bloodshed.net/download.html
http://www.bloodshed.net/

other compilers:

http://www.cprogramming.com/tools.html

basic c++ tuts:

http://www.cprogramming.com/tutorial.html
http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/

2d Librarys:

http://www.libsdl.org/download-1.2.php

tuts on sdl (2d library):

http://www.libsdl.org/tutorials.php

tuts on Opengl:
http://cone3d.gamedev.net/cgi-bin/index.pl (and click on tutorials - opengl)

I still think that klik is a great way to get started before someone bites my head off

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31st March, 2004 at 16:03:47 -

Allegro's faster than SDL... but it's not as fast as Presto. (not a programmer joke)

 
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Hagar

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1st April, 2004 at 08:37:39 -

I like SDL as there is a version specifically for Dev c++.

I know of Allegro, i have it just never bothered learning it , does it have similar functions to SDL or is it completely different?

Where can i download presto? ,just serched and i cant find it (assuming its a free library like sdl and allegro)

 
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