... hope your trashcan isn't your suggestion box, cause this is a serious suggestion. The following was first posted on the news page under one of the headlines and I realised that it would make sense to put ideas for the site onto the boards for talk about TDC:
Hate to say it, but I too miss GOTW ... but I'm sure that GOTM must be a little easier on all you admins since you don't have to do a poll but once a month.
Of course, there are like 10 of you now or something (5 maybe?) ..
I haven't even played a single one of this months choices. I'm still trying to unlock all the characters on that stupid zombie game. I hate that I have to play back through the stupid thing over and over just so I can see the different character styles, but I'm almost there, got like 2 more to go. So far I like the sorceress girl best. The guy in red with the sword and gun has the most fun style of play though.
I think a GOTM-A and GOTM-B would be best, even though it doesn't sound as good title-wise.
Basically meaning that the first 2 weeks of a month should be set aside for GOTM-A, and the remaining days of that month should be set aside for GOTM-B.
This would keep too many games from appearing at once, and would also ensure that there are enough games to provide variety to vote between.
Just like the story goes, one bed is too soft, one is too hard, and finally, this one is just right.
One porridge is too hot, another too cold, but this porridge is the perfect temperature.
There is great wisdom in fairy tales if you are paying attention ... lol.
I'd like to see an EOTM (engine of the month) implemented too really, (a month would be fine for engines since you see more games than engines).
To qualify as an engine and be eligible, it should be opensource. Afterall, if the engine can't be used to make a game by a person, then it isn't an engine at all to that person, now is it? If it's not opensource then it should be considered a demo (as in demonstration) and be either not voted upon or voted on within a new DOTM (demo of the month) category. (A and B if you want, or even weekly DOTW)
So in conclusion, GOTM-A and GOTM-B, DOTW (or whenever), EOTM.
Geez, I can't seem to keep my wordings short, everyone probably thinks I'm ranting or something, but I'm just suggesting some ideas. In fact, I should place this in the suggestion box.
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There has already been lots of discussion concerning gotw vs gotm and i disagree with folks
for the return of the gotw after discussing this before. GOTM A and B does not seem to work since we tried this for a couple of weeks under the grand title GOT2W. There is just often not enough games being released.
For an example to show you if gotw was still around this is what it would look like
June
Week 1 selection:
Faerie Solitaire Turning The Tide and Star chaser
Week 2 selection:
Death From Above and Bloodbath
Week 3 selection:
A Space Battle v2 and World of Abstractica
Week 4 selection:
Clueless, Wacko Plus! v 1.8, Black Ghost OPS 2.0, Edge The Game, Shlurfy GreatPaint,
Spirit Seeker 2009 [Next Gen Compo], shock, SmartKlik (Vitalize!) Frog Bound,
and Picross Mania (full version as freeware)
Now, week 1 we got 2 big releases, only 1 can win.
Week 2, the same only 2 games to pick from
Week 3, again only 2 games to pick from
Week 4, 9! games to choose from but only 1 can win.
Very, very uneven, and a bit of a luck of the draw what type of game or games you will have together.
With gotm you get 3 deserving winners every month and it just makes more sense and is more fair to the authors of the games out there.
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Also having a GOTM insures the continuation of this award. It has been a huge issue in the past of delivering the gotw on time. You need steady and determined folks to do this every week. (AKA Chris Street did it for a couple of years) Working on a rotation basis simply fails in practise since the person needs to be in a routine in doing this every single week. Having it alter every month every couple of months simply fails and delays a gotw or simply its skipped.
I have been doing it myself every week for the past year but on most weeks it would not make any sense in doing a GOTW at all either because of lack of gaming submissions or votes, thats what brought having a gotm up.
With the gotm the votes have been going up and the right games are declared winners. I do not see any reason to go back now to be honest.
This has beena hot topic since the beginning of times really, nothing new
I think it's a nice notion MBK, but I agree that there are not enough games pumped out consistently. And we've had several times where the GOTW was cancelled due to lack of submissions. Perhaps later on when the member list doubles it may be more acceptable
Prejudice! I can't vote for game of the month because I haven't been here that long! Seriously. It makes me feel like not coming back. But next time I ought to release a complete game.
I'd say use the 3-award system already in place, but make it 2 times in a month, first two weeks of the month and remaining days in that month (days in a month vary). If there are 3 games or less per 2 weeks then everyone gets an award and is happy. Just decrease the amount of points given out per award to keep it from being too easy to accumulate points quickly.
@OMC, yes you're right, I've got to work on my brevity.
Edit: I truly would like an Engine award, because that's what I usually do is play around with engines.
I need to start making some really simple games and finish them though anyway, but it would be nice to have nontheless.
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Edit2: Sorry, just read your post Rikus, and it makes perfect sense ... maybe keep it monthly then, but add other awards to the fray on a monthly basis? EOTM (engine), DOTM (demo), SOTM (story), GUIOTM (graphical user interface), VOTM (video), FXOTM (sound or graphical special effects), COTM (character), MOTM (member of the month)
You could assign one or two to each admin.
The engine one is the only one I care about though.
Edited: Automation would be very nice to have, as you could do alot more with alot less time.
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I don't like having an award every month for absolutely everything - it's pointless and clutters the site up with too much information (the site is already cluttered up enough as it is).
The GOTW/GOTM system works fine as far as I'm aware - with the GOTM award you really have three winners, and it also makes sure that we actually have enough games to compete for the awards. I need to work on modifying the GOTM page so it actually displays the three winners soon.
I thought the GOTW where a week was skipped when there weren't enough games was still the best option. There are too many games for a GOTM and it discourages voting.
When I was a newbie, I didn't even look at the downloads page, I would just check out the entries nominated for the GOTW, but GOTM closes after a few days, so it might even be reducing accessibility to the games.
When there are two big releases in one week, that's just unfortunate, I guess. Give them a recommended star.
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I think that GOTM is working out nicely. It's sort of nice that it's discouraging votes. You only get votes that count now, and GOTM really sifts out the good games from the bad, instead of back then when you had the best of the best, or the least worst of the bad. GOTW also slowed down too much (became GOT2W for a moment) and was unfair to some of the better games. I don't think anyone ever took it seriously.
Engine/Application/Extension of the month sounds like a good idea, but there's not enough submissions.
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Originally Posted by Muz It's sort of nice that it's discouraging votes. You only get votes that count now
Not really, because the people who are being discouraged from voting are the ones who take care to actually play all the games and vote properly. The people whose votes shouldn't count will still vote without playing all the games.