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11th January, 2005 at 06:44:24 -

Finally... I've put all these years of thinking and reading physics books to use. I've created a very sturdy theory on explaining the existence (or non-existence) of magic into a small, 4-page 'pamphlet'.

There, I've put in enough realistic theories to explain magic, where it comes from, how it animates zombies, why it's not available on Earth, how magic enhances weapons, how it can be used in a modern world, etc, etc. Well, it's not directly mentioned, but should answer any questions if you bother to think.

Designed to be written by a character in my game, it's available right here:
http://freebor.tripod.com/spark78/asem.zip

So there... anyone wanna debate on any of the 'facts' in there? Any other flaws or common questions I left out? I wanna iron out any flaws before I show this to the masters of fantasy (AKA the uber-nerds who spend hundreds on rulebooks and miniatures).

 
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11th January, 2005 at 09:49:05 -

"magic" is only magic because it defies scientific explaination. i haven't downloaded that thing, are we talking david blaine (shazzam) magic or harry potter magic?

 
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11th January, 2005 at 10:49:28 -

Wait wait, I didn't think anyone actually thinks magic isn't anything other than impressive tricks?

 
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11th January, 2005 at 11:05:28 -

Theres' no such thing as magic. Because otherwise I could just apply some magic and successfully download that file, which gives an error.

 
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11th January, 2005 at 11:09:37 -

I used the 'Dragging into URL Bar' spell.

 
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11th January, 2005 at 11:12:05 -

Ah crap, I've run out of MP. I'll download it later.

 
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11th January, 2005 at 13:33:00 -

I agree that a scientific explaination of magic is pretty much pointless. Science is limited to what can be studied with our senses - Eyes, nose, ears, taste, touch. Since we know there are forces which cannot be detected by some of our senses - like wind for example, it's obvious there are forces which can't be detected by ANY of our senses, and are therefore outside the realm of science. To say anything that exists can be examined with our limited five senses is kind of vain on our part, I would say.

Of course when it comes to wizards waving magic wands, etc, that stuff is baloney :^p

 
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11th January, 2005 at 14:00:34 -

I believe what Muz means is the same basic thing as The Force in Star Wars.

In Star Wars the idea was that people discovered this kind of energy aeons ago, but never knew how it worked. They just knew they could manipulate it.

By the time of the movies, they have done enough research to realise that The Force is somehow linked to these little parasites that live in your blood - the more you have, the stronger your connection to The Force.

Similarly, I think this is intended to be used in a story where 'magic' and science have grown together - what started off as magic is now far less mysterious, but still referred to by its archaic name.

That said, i could be wrong, cos I haven't read it yet. But If I have time, i will do.

 
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11th January, 2005 at 15:08:51 -

In that document, try doing a replace on "Magic" with "Hard Work". Or given the average maturity of TDC I'm sure you'll find another hilarious verb to put in there... which makes some hilarious sentences.

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11th January, 2005 at 15:48:23 -

Verry cool, Muz. You have obviously got way too much time on your hands.

 
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11th January, 2005 at 17:35:41 -

it's obvious there are forces which can't be detected by ANY of our senses, and are therefore outside the realm of science.

You mean like strong/weak nuclear force? What about electromagnetism? Neutrino radiation?

Some animals have electroceptive senses. Some have magnetoception. Some can echolocate. Fish have lateral lines and some reptiles can sense IR light. That's five senses we humans don't have. Are you saying the forces they measure are outside our ability for scientific study?

 
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11th January, 2005 at 17:52:40 -

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11th January, 2005 at 19:09:49 -

(kinda)Scientific explanation of Magic:

Magic the Gathering is a card game made by Wizards of the Coast which includes many mnay different kinds of spells, creatures, enchantments, articfacts etc. which are brought into play using mana which can be produced by land cards or other effects specified by special cards. Some cards include: Mountain, Swamp, Shock, Leviathan, Wrath of God, Squirrel's Nest, Black Lotus...Knight of the Hokey Pokey, Bouncing Beebles, and The Cheese Stands Alone.

 
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11th January, 2005 at 19:12:21 -

Magic is one of those things that are hard to debate about because there are 2 types of magic everyone knows about, as Pete said, the kind of magic that is real in the fact that your simply tricking someone with slick behind the scene acts, & magic that is hard to believe is real because it defies what science can show us, & everytime we find something that to most people would be concidered magic, we name it something to make it fallow science such as magnets. Its not nessarly what we cant sence through our original 5 senses are humans, but like Pete said, what defies what we currently believe in science.

 
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11th January, 2005 at 19:17:58 -

I think the second type of magic is the one athiests like myself don't believe in.

 
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