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Registered 23/09/2002
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17th May, 2005 at 06:40:59 -
Both have been announced now and we know the specs - www.gamespot.com - so which one will you be getting, if any (or the Nintendo Revolution)? Personally I think the PS3 looks tastier with that Cell processor, but I guess the ultimate judgement is the games they play, and there's not a lot of info on those yet.
[quote="Jay"]an RPG is in the works which, again the mole says "Imagine that you can be in a room chat with all people who you know...imagine that you are plaging online...in real time...in aRPG...called...Z...a Imagine that you can choose and you've the chance to create a world...to choose a world...WHERE YOU'LL be inside..."... again leading the path down the still shrouded virtual reality headset route.[/quote]
and that is planned for the rpg, pretty vague, but that alone would keep me busy for a long time, and i don't see how people find the new PS3 design any good, i personally think it's ugly
In my opinion Playstation always had the better games, so I'd stick with the PS3. However, they've gone and changed the popular controller shape, which is a mistake, the new one's like a bloody boomerang.
I very much doubt I'd buy one though, I mainly play games on the PC and I have my PS2 for stuff like Tekken, I need my Tekken. I can't stand first-person shooters or other stuff with free-aiming on a control pad, they just don't work without a mouse.
but you could buy the mouse and keyboard for consoles trevor, i find fps are much better on consoles, simply because they are made for pure gaming, and nothing else
however rpg games last longer in my hands, and even longer with the development addition, where i can not only PLAY in my OWN world, but CREATE it as well, whcih is why i'm probably going for the rs, plus it has the gyroscope technology planned to be built into it's controllers, not only that the rs is the only system that's planning new forms of gameplay, which we haven't had much of lately, rather than just improved gameplay, whcih i believe we've had enough of
I've always prefered playing stuff on the PC unless it's games that were truly designed for control-pads, such as beat em ups and sports games and stuff. Plus PC games usually can afford to push the envelope in terms of graphics and features and there's always the mod scene keeping games alive.
Anyway, the PS3 seems the better console, specs wise. The PS3 design is better than the PS2, I always hated the way that looked. The XBox 360 looks like Bill Gates let his kids make it after watching Blue Peter. And 360 is a stupid name.
Sony usually get the best games, such as the first dibs on Metal Gear Solid, Grand Theft Auto and Tekken, Microsoft is famous for having Halo, a sub-standard console FPS that cannot touch the majority of PC FPS.
In terms of power, I think Microsoft and Sony have gone completely overboard with all this multiple-core CPU mine can do 2 teraflops blah blah shindig. The graphics in the screenshots ive seen on both formats dont look much better than the graphics produced by my PC and I only have an old Radeon 9600XT.
I've gotten to the stage where I am getting bored of playing videogames, they don't make me feel excited about playing them any more. The only commercially viable games for publishers now are Generic Shooter 6 TM and Crime Game 7 TM, this new generation of consoles is only going to make things worse with spiralling development costs, and small independant developers going under.
Hopefully the "Revolution" will be a Revolution in terms of gameplay.
I already have $50 down on an XBox360 (the last preorder open in my area -- it's already selling like hotcakes 6 months before launch). I've always felt like the XBox has the best first and second party game lineup (and now with the addition of SquareEnix and Mistwalker, and continued Bioware support it has great RPGs on the way too).
Sony's conference was literally nothing but vaporware, showing nothing but cinematic sequences. Even if some of them were rendered in real-time, such as the boner-inducing Final Fantasy VII tech demo, it still showed nothing of actual gameplay. Microsoft isn't even messing around with tech-demos this year. They're just jumping right into gameplay. You can show me movies of Killzone 2 all day, but I'm going to be a hell of a lot more excited about seeing actual gameplay of Perfect Dark Zero and Gears of War.
In terms of power, the two consoles seem very evenly matched. The PS3 has a little more power under the hood in terms of the main processor, but the XBox360's GPU is nicer, and it has a much more efficient memory setup. In terms of power, I see the XBox360 being like a Dreamcast, and the PS3 being like it's predecessor. XBox360 games are going to look frickin' amazing right out of the gate, while developers are going to have a hard time tapping into the power of the PS3 (7 processor cores is worthy of a Saturn). It'll take at least a year or two before the majority of PS3 games catch up and eventually surpass XBox360 titles in terms of graphics. And, honestly, even when that happens, the graphics of both systems are so mind-blowingly awesome that I doubt we'll even notice. This generation the technology is nearly limitless, so it's just up to the artists to deliver. It's kind of like the 16-bit era for 2D. It wasn't about how many pixels you could draw, it was about how well you could draw them.
Now, there is also the factor of the systems design. The PS3 is quite possible the ugliest George-Forman grill of a console I've ever laid eyes on. The boomerang shaped dildo of a controller doesn't help its case much either. I just can't imagine that thing being comfortable to use at all. Sony's insistance on keeping the d-pad as the main focus, and refusal to include analog triggers is going to hurt them. 3D control is what this generation is all about, not some archaic 4-way d-pad (that works perfectly well in the #2 position I might add, as has been proven by Dreamcast, Gamecube, and XBox). The PS3 looks big and bulky (indeed it is even bigger than the first XBox), and just doesn't seem like something I'd want to proudly display in my living room. It's like a 1970's sci-fi attempt at futuristic design and it ends up looking like ass.
XBox 360 on the other hand, is one sexy console. Sleek design, small-compact, customizable, with controllers that look comfortable and very functional. Microsoft seems to be the only company that is really focusing on giving the consumers what they want, and giving them options. The XBox Live structure is already in place, and they're going to expand upon it. Spectator mode has me intrigued. They talked about how you could start the race season in PGR 3, pay $10 to compete, and then have the tournament go on for months, finally climaxing in a 16-player race for $1,000,000 that every XBoxLive user to tune into and watch in real-time. There's also the idea of being able to watch others play in order to pick up on techniques. Another possibility of this is how well it could be used for things like movie direction. I'm sure you've all seen Red vs. Blue. Imagine being able to set up a 16-player custom game, and then have multiple guys running around in spectator mode serving as cameras w/o worrying about having to edit out UI or having your other "cameras" be visible.
Finally, Microsoft has one MAJOR advantage over the PS3. It's coming out in time for Christmas this year, in all 3 regions (North America, Japan, and Europe). PS3 doesn't have a set date beyond simply 2006. If I have to choose between a console that's coming out soon, or holding out for one that might be just a teensy bit more powerful that comes out next year, I think the choice is obvious. I want the next-generation to start now, and Microsoft is the only company that's delivering.
Pete Nattress Cheesy Bits img src/uploads/sccheesegif
Registered 23/09/2002
Points 4811
17th May, 2005 at 13:23:00 -
"If I have to choose between a console that's coming out soon, or holding out for one that might be just a teensy bit more powerful that comes out next year, I think the choice is obvious."
People who were thinking that about the Dreamcast are kicking themselves now. Also, I've watched the Killzone video, and there's nothing to suggest it's not ingame and real time.
I'm not sure I agree about the analogue and digital on the PS3, on the PS2 control pad it's incredibly easy and confortable as it is, and believe it or not there are still a lot of people who prefer to use the D-pad, myself being one of them (until my finger starts to hurt, which is when I relocate to analogue). If D-pad works fine where it is on XBox and Dreamcast etc, why can't analogue work fine where it is on Playstation? I was playing Tony Hawks Underground 2 earlier on, which I'm a master of by the way (modest as always), and you need the accuracy of absolute directions you get with the D-pad to pull off the correct tricks etc. Same with beat em ups and stuff. I think the PS2 pad is fine as it is and they should change the stupid shape of the PS3 pad and revert it back to classic Playstation shape.
I don't think the chasis of the PS3 is as bad as everyone makes out, although it's nothing special it's miles ahead of the simple black box of the PS2 which I hated. To be honest I don't think any of the new three consoles look all that, but it's what's inside that counts, and more so the games that are released (which I'm sure the PS3 will have better ones). Sony seem to get the marketing right also, the Playstations have always been something nobody needs to be ashamed of, like you don't have to be a geek to have a PS, it has a more 'cool' factor which I think is a lot to do with the cool games. The XBox's flagship title was pretty much Halo, which wasn't really pushing coolness out there, and Nintendo tend to market to children with the odd exception.
Oh yeah, and I hope the PS3 retains the ability to stand horizontal or vertical. I don't think I beat Kirby Smith's word count but that's my rant over.
"People who were thinking that about the Dreamcast are kicking themselves now."
I'd keep my Dreamcast in an instant over the PS2. At the time the Dreamcast was discontinued (early 2001), it had better looking games, was the only console that had good online games, and had a much stronger software library. I'd give up Sony's exclusives in an instant before I'd part with Jet Grind Radio, Shenmue, Powerstone, Crazy Taxi, Phantasy Star Online, Soul Calibur, Sonic Adventure, or Skies of Arcadia (among others).
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but on specs, from what I've heard the ps3 wins over xbox 360.
