Anyone played those games yet? Both of them were very well hyped, they both had excellent designs, graphics, etc... but I dunno, they just weren't much fun to me. They all seemed a bit rushed, and weren't very fun.
EE2 had nice new stuff, a war plan, citizen watching, but the RPS system was too simple and didn't make sense. And the game played like a board game. Build this, build that, conquer blocks of map, move troops around, just wasn't very fun. I loved the first one. Had horrible AI, bad balance, kinda ugly, but it was fun to just play for fun, instead of playing to win.
AoE3 was well... nothing special. Nice game, nice story, nice gfx, but nothing new. I preferred Age of Mythology, where you could zap enemies with bolts of lighting, knock them around with minotaurs, etc .
Stronghold 2 was a nicer game than S1, but it was pretty unbalanced, and the game seemed very rushed to me. But overall, an ok game.
So, am I just missing something, or does everyone else think the same thing?
Best new game: Civilization 4
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The only one I own out of the ones you mentioned is Civ 4. I've been getting into it slowly - so far, it seems that it does mess with the rules in the same way that Civ 3 did, but it's so nice about it all that I don't mind.
Yeah, Civ4 is great. It's a bit underhyped for something so new, IMHO, but it still has a lot of things you don't find in other games.
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Hey, i got Civ 4 too. It'd be awsome if a lot of people from TDC could play multiplayer, then we could battle for the title of ... uhh ... TDC Civilization Ruler! That'd be so awsome.
I loved AOE3 and didn't even bother with CIV 4. Civ 3 sucked so much that I didn't dare invest in a new CIV game (I mean come on, CIV 2 owned CIV 3 becuase of the cheat menu and the fact you could mod everything ).
Even better, give me master of orion 2 on my DS and watch my life end. I'm so hopelessly addicted to that game, rightly so though; it is my favorite game of all time.
I never did like Civ too much, but that's because I like to micromanage; I don't trust the computer to move for me, and Civ's system is so archaic.
I've decided to give this generation of strategy games a miss. The graphics look pretty and everything, and I'm sure they're good games, but theres just nothing new there that hasn't been done before.
Still, I am looking forward to Medieval 2 Total War and Supreme Commander.
The only real problem with most RTS games now, is that they are all taking advantage of all the new graphic cards & sometimes don’t support lower settings for those who don’t have the best of the best. So allot of times, people get excited about a sequel, only to find out that they need to perform a massive surgery on there PC, just to get the dang game to play. That’s how it was with me from RCT2 to RCT3... but in RCT3's case how ever, it’s very disappointing. The game looks very bad and still runs like shit on even above average computers. A very poorly designed game if you ask me. Though the new 3D RTS have allot of nice touches, such as 360 degree turning, rather then 90 and the ability to zoom smoothly in & out. Both are enough to make any RTS feel COMPLETLY different. That’s one of the best improvements of RTS games in my opinion.
I agree, the transition from 2d to 3d in the rts world has been a bumpy one. I think the main problem seems to be the number of units. With 2d rtss, you could have loads of units onscreen an not worry about performance, but with 3d games thats a major issue, even if you have a beast of a pc. (With the one exception of the total war games I might add).
Still, I think rts games are really starting to look beautiful now, I think the future will be bright
I dunno... guess there's too much focus on selling out. EE2 didn't really appeal to me, it had a great concept, but even after a few weeks, I still couldn't get used to the RTS system, which spoiled what would've been a great game.
I guess a lot of games have too much focus on good graphics, which WOULD make the game sell better if only people could play them. Kinda ironic. But Tropico & Tropico 2 had great gfx, and both had fairly low reqs. Dominions 2 is probably the game I've seen with the most gameplay, but unfortunately, the poor graphics doesn't earn it many fans.
Civ4 was much, much better than Civ3, IMHO. It had a new religion feature, plus graphics that made you feel as if your civilization was actually growing. The whole place felt as real as any civilization game feels. However, as usual, the game's more for those who play to build civilizations rather than kill stuff. You CAN mod everything in Civ3 (at least with Conquests exp), and the new one has much easier controls. Of course, combat is a lot tougher with the new unit xp system, and even tougher with the backstabbing neighbors, though at least you can tell who'll backstab you first by seeing who thinks you're "too advanced". And the multiplayer system actually works!
Hmm... there's a Medieval: TW 2? I still play the first, which has poor gameplay compared to Rome: TW, but if there's anything I'd want to see... it'd be a Medieval: TW with the gameplay that Rome offered. Though I wonder how much power it'd take... but I have faith in them. Any team that could make 3000 units move about with realistic arrow/catapult trajectories, trampling horses & elephants, a HUGE city, flaming arrows, grass, etc, etc run on MY crappy computer with no lag at all..... those guys have truly earned my respect. Heck, the gfx for Rome: TW were so nice that they actually used them in the cinematics.
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