Welp, the past few days windows vista beta was released to the public, right now i have it installed and i must say the perfomance is amazing. The download is 3 gigs but is worth the download, on top of that, the beta lasts for a whole year^^
Even publicly released versions of microsoft products have bugs to be found in them, so you're screwed even if you wait for it to be released in shops.
I tried installing it, just to see if Vista was any better than XP, but it only saw my boot drive (which is full) not my other drive (which is practically empty), so It couldn't install.
I think it's a flop, unless it's any more secure and less buggy than XP. I mean, ther aren't any new features that you couldn't get from things like Google Search Toolbar (or any that weren't copied from Mac OS X for that matter), and the interface is so graphics intensive it will probably never work anyway. Of course, if it comes bundled with all new Windows computers it can't lose, unless people wise up and buy Mac OS X (I know, I promised I wouldn't promote it again, but that was just such a good opportunity...).
Partition your hard drive and install Vista on the formated partition. You can safely duel boot Vista and XP, thats what I'm doing. Works great, Vista is very stable in this up comming beta.
A couple things a friend and I both noticed when using Vista though are:
AIM 5.9 doesnt want to install, but MSN works fine.
Soundcard doesnt have Vista drivers, so I'm stuck with onboard, and only 2 speakers.
A good deal of security permission dialogs, but they can be shut off.
Aside from those, Vista Beta 2 is very stable, and I have to say. The translations are beautiful and very well done. Closing, minimizing, restoring, and the flip desktop (WindowsKey+Tab).
Well worth the 3 gig download if your into duel booting, but I wouldnt recommend completly upgrading WindowsXp.
PS: The program I used to partition my hard drive is Partition Magic 8, partitioning around 40gb, just to make sure I have enough space for Vista and XP to run smoothly.
Havent actually checked the system requirements, but as far as having a PC that can run Vista, it doesnt take much more to run then WindowsXp. Personally, taking everything into concideration, I think it actually runs a lot smoother then WindowsXP. You should be able to run Vista, you just wont be able to use the actual Aero theme, you'll need to use Aero Basic, which runs smoother then WindowXP's Luna theme.
Having used Vista for 2 days streight now, aside from simple easy to work around beta 'hickups', its completly stable. The only thing seriously stopping it from being released, is some tweaking here and there, and to get word out for driver companies to set a deadline that all final release Vista drivers should be released.
I can't say I'm much of a fan of it either - it looks like they've tried to give it a sleek, modern finish and gone far too over the top. And the level at which they're now copying Mac OS X is now approaching hilarity.
So, should I try the beta or is it not worth it. My copy of Windows XP is getting slow ,again, (I just re-installed it 2 months ago and it's already broken), so I need to re-install, again, should I try Vista while i'm at it or is it not worth it?
Can you people name one feature in Vista that isn't in Mac OS X? How about features that you cant get with other programs like Google Desktop Search of Konfabulator? As far as I can tell there isn't much innovation in Vista, just copies of things that have been around for years. I mean; Widgets, Copied from Konfabulator (now Yahoo Widgets); Instant Search, Copied from Mac OS X; Anoying popups for security, Mac OS 8; and on and on.
I completely agree with Phizzy, you cant expect some huge innovation from any kind of OS that isn’t already available in 3rd party software. As far as copying idea's from other OS, its not wrong, its a way to give Windows users, what they've been missing out, because they don’t feel like moving to a completely different OS, that probably doesn’t even support half the software they are used to using. Someone really knowledgeable about his computer, and can take down just about any problem that comes his way, becomes completely wiped of any knowledge, when he/she moves to a new OS, so if people can avoid it, they usually do.
As far as minor innovation, Windows Vista has already shown, even in Beta's, to be much faster then WindowsXp. Windows and dialogs, though coated with in theory, resource draining graphics, tend to function 10x better then WindowsXP, considering the XP was a fresh install. Frame rates in games (perhaps because of Dx10) have improved very noticeably as well.
How I see it is, Windows is a great OS, and if you cant even go 2 months without screwing it up, then you shouldn’t be using it, because where it has some problems here and there, WindowsXP alone, is stable enough to take what you have to give. My sister uses a Pentium 2 with less then 256MB of ram, and a 20GB hard drive, using WindowsXP, and other then noticeable performance slopes (obviously) WindowsXP has yet to show any sign of critical problems that required fixing. With that said, in my eyes... OS X is nothing but bubble wrap for users who are unable to work with Windows, without screwing it up.
Well, I guess you have a point. If the OS supports good software and is fast, than it could be as featureless as DOS and still be good. But I still hate that Microsoft is copying everything from Mac OS X, I mean for god sakes people, get your own idea for once! I agree that taking a few features from another OS or program isn't bad, but they copied just about everything. If you think about it, Microsoft hasn't really come up with much of anything, ever.
who here owned a commodre amiga?? Remeber the OS for this system?? Workbench. The idea behind Windows 3.1 was based on workbench. The guy who wrote the workbench code approached IBM and a few other big name companies at that time and offered them the code. they then turned it down. A lucky man just happened to be in the right place at the right time and this man was Bill Gates.
You tell me these arent the same product just wrapped up and called something different.
So to my point: I agree with Keatontech to a certain degree but without microsoft would we have had such a diverse range of multimedia and authroing tools available to us as easily as they are now. For instance Linux cannot run windows software without some form of emulation shell for it to run in. Mac OS doen't run Windows software as far as i am aware. These two limitations are the reason why Bill gates is the millionaire he is. 9 out of 10 PC owners run Windows which is the reason Microsoft are constantly releasing new products to keep their customers happy.
There we go piece said.
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13th June, 2006 at 00:05:40 -
What? As far as I know, Apple stole/took/borrowed the whole WIMP GUI from Xerox. Then Microsoft stole off Apple. And now they're doing it again! Oh no!
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