ive to admit i find it kind of weird that christians worship the cross. overall the cross KILLED their savior jesus christ so isn't celebrating the cross celebrating his death and kinda against him? i just realized this and i find it to be kind of sick and twisted. in modern times its as if people would wear necklaces with an electric chair and celebrate that.
Christians don't worship the cross.
The cross didn't kill Jesus.
The cross is simply a symbol that Jesus died for our sins.
He chose to die, the ultimate sacrifice and all that.
Since he was without sin (spotless lamb) he covered the worlds sins so that animal sacrifices were no longer necessary.
It's also interesting to note that Jesus fulfilled over 300 prior prophesies, with his birth, death, burial, and resurrection.
God (Jesus) knew he was going to die when he came to Earth manifest in the flesh.
I realize I'm prolly feeding a troll here, but if you were really asking this question in all seriousness then there's your answer.
Originally Posted by UrbanMonk Christians don't worship the cross.
The cross didn't kill Jesus.
The cross is simply a symbol that Jesus died for our sins.
He chose to die, the ultimate sacrifice and all that.
Since he was without sin (spotless lamb) he covered the worlds sins so that animal sacrifices were no longer necessary.
It's also interesting to note that Jesus fulfilled over 300 prior prophesies, with his birth, death, burial, and resurrection.
God (Jesus) knew he was going to die when he came to Earth manifest in the flesh.
I suppose the question merits the answer, but maybe a simpler "not really" would have been as good. These topics are such a drag, and they're talked about as if they were a 21st century issue.
I do find it a tad eerie that a majority of the crosses I see, actually have Jesus hanging on it. I understand symbolism of the cross, but to literally have a necklace with a dead guy hanging from a cross kind pinches my side a little bit. I live in a heavily religious area, over 7 local churches, 5 within walking distance of my house. At least 2/3 of the people I see in public, are all wearing some kind of cross. A good 1/3 of the people I work with, all come in with ashes on their forehead after Ash Wednesday.
But hey, people will wear what they want, especially to symbolize their faith. As long as no one criticizes me for my pentacle, you wont hear me complain about anyone else wearing their symbol. My two cents on the matter, aren't even worth two cents.
Originally Posted by UrbanMonk I don't wear anything to show what I am but yet people always seem to know.
Not really surprising, considering God, Jesus, and just the foundation Christianity in general is successfully sold so well it could make even the most successful business model jealous.
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Unless you're implicitly giving someone, especially a Christian, a reason not to believe you're Christian, they seem to assume you are, as though the truth in Christianity was as obvious to see as the gravity pulling them to earth. Because the instant you tell anyone say within hearing distance of a Christian, that you don't believe in Jesus, or God, or of a god in general... suddenly it's everything they can do as a living person to insist that you be saved. -_-
I've found that calmly and gently asserting myself in the company of Christians that inquest me about my [lack of] faith [in their God] is a surefire way to put the topic to rest for the duration. Letting them know right up front that I'm not interested in hearing their arguments about why I should believe as they do keeps it brief, and we can actually discuss more important things that much quicker.
"Some of my best friends are Christians..." Even the majority of my family is of at least "casual Christian" bent. I've been able to put the matter to rest amongst them over time, and we're all still able to love one another.
Originally Posted by Silveraura suddenly it's everything they can do as a living person to insist that you be saved. -_-
Unfortunately it's not that way where I live. At least at college.
The Atheists have a strong hold here.
Unfortunately? So you're supporting their abnoxious behavior? Why aren't people allowed to believe what they want without a Christian insulting them every chance they get?
Unless of course I'm misunderstanding something here. I don't find it unfortunate that I don't live amounst a bunch of pagans. I do find it unfortunate however that paganism has such a bad name. Christianity on the other hand, needs to be put in its place for its harassment. Not so much its belief, but for the horrible idea that no one else could possibly be right and that everyone needs to conform to morals set in place entirely off their own belief. It's the ugly superiority complex Christians have, that really gets to me the most. Not so much their faith.
Originally Posted by Silveraura suddenly it's everything they can do as a living person to insist that you be saved. -_-
Unfortunately it's not that way where I live. At least at college.
The Atheists have a strong hold here.
I am a Catholic but I don't preach. If someone else isn't Catholic or does something that isn't Catholically appropriate, I don't tell them to do otherwise. I'll live my life as a Catholic and everyone else can live their life as they wish. Unless of course they want to break some laws, like robbing people or committing murder, in which case I'm not gonna go along with that.
I wouldn't have used the word unfortunately, mainly because I don't think it right to push one's beliefs on another.
Originally Posted by Silveraura Unfortunately? So you're supporting their abnoxious behavior? Why aren't people allowed to believe what they want without a Christian insulting them every chance they get?
I don't support any particular behavior, but I am glad that you live among people that have at least have some sort of Christian belief.
Trust me, annoying people will be annoying no matter what religion they are.
I have a feeling that you're blowing things way out of proportion in your own mind because you happen to have a different beliefs than them.
Originally Posted by Silveraura Not so much its belief, but for the horrible idea that no one else could possibly be right and that everyone needs to conform to morals set in place entirely off their own belief.
And I suppose you think you're right about this.
Originally Posted by Silveraura It's the ugly superiority complex Christians have, that really gets to me the most.
Don't let it get to you. There are people like this in every type of belief. You're stereotyping.
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