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Lazernaut



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2nd November, 2004 at 11:28:16 -

It's been known for a long time, at least i think so, that people here at TDC aren't always that friendly. But take a look at this:

http://create-games.com/review.asp?id=2664

I have no problem at all with a person not liking my game, but i do have a problem with people saying stuff like this without being constructive. I think this sort of behaviour is extremely immature. So anyways, just letting out some steam. Can it really be that people can be however immature they please ?

 
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2nd November, 2004 at 12:07:01 -

I have had bad experiences with Nuklear Productions (the guy who wrote that review) personally i think articles, previews and reviews should be checked by an admin aswell! Because alot of cra* is getting let in, i have seen reviews that just go: p_aijiioquoiu9i2-]324=32[r;['a#;'. @;':L'
To fill out the new minimum word count.

There should be someone checking what gets let in.
Anyone agree?

 
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2nd November, 2004 at 12:20:00 -

nuklear is a stupid asshole and should be banned again.

 
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2nd November, 2004 at 12:59:39 -

not to forget the review Rhys D gave TOR, all because i gave his game a bad review (which was constructive critisism). but Pete couldnt remove it because its his power of free speech. no offence to pete he's just doing his job but why cant we just have a no bullshit rule?

 
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2nd November, 2004 at 13:09:52 -

If it was up to me, every game would get over 5/10, no matter what. Every game has something good in it, even Punch It, because that gives everyone an excuse to kill the creator for crimes against humanity.

http://create-games.com/review.asp?id=2655

 
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2nd November, 2004 at 13:38:46 -

I agree. My first thought, when reading the "review", was "why on earth doesn't these things require admin approvals. But then again, these kinda reviews are an excellent way to get points ... >_<

 
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2nd November, 2004 at 13:58:23 -

If you have a problem with a review you've received, DC-mail me - if it's an invalid review I'll remove it.

I'm unsure what to do about that one - I do want to delete it as it's atrociously written and barely understandable, but it does offer an opinion on the game, however invalid.

Actually, it's going - if Nuklear's reading this, it's for the first reason, not the second.

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2nd November, 2004 at 14:39:29 -

Jambo- I think its already a pain to have games being checked, first off, they dont even make sure they pass standerds, they just check it, if the discription is longer then 2 words, it passes! Not to mention that the admins are never willing to accept more help via letting games through & keeping crap from reaching DC, so having them check articles, previews, & reviews would be a waste.

Phizzy- Why would you need to delete a review just to keep points that dont mean crap?

 
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2nd November, 2004 at 15:04:41 -

I agree with Brandon, points aren't worth anything anyway

 
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2nd November, 2004 at 15:26:01 -

YOU GET POINTS FOR THAT!! IMA START WRITING!

 
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2nd November, 2004 at 19:55:37 -

Downloads are checked to ensure they have a working and valid link, not for quality control.

 
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2nd November, 2004 at 20:25:06 -

That explains alot Wong, thx. I'm not joking.

 
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2nd November, 2004 at 20:58:07 -

Get fucked Jay. If yours was constructive critisism then so was mine. Fucking tool. Stop pretending you're Mr. Perfect.

And Mr. Wong Chung Bang if you could so politely remove Jay's review from my game Milber 2, as you have done to my review on his game TOR, it would be kindly appreciated.

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3rd November, 2004 at 10:09:14 -

People rate games too fucking high. If I see a game that gets 8 or 9/10 I want to download it and be impressed in some way. Unfortunately the majority of reviews here seem to be bullshit in another way. I don't know if it's just friends of the creators rating high, or people with no clue who are easily impressed, but it basically renders reviews here useless. The reason I don't do reviews often is because I'd very, very rarely give over six, and someone would be bound to take offense.
There's plenty of games that do, of course, deserve very high marks, but I just wish people could be more objective generally.

 
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3rd November, 2004 at 10:46:19 -

what the hell is wrong with that milber review?

 
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3rd November, 2004 at 10:59:02 -

It's a crappy review. True that I'd not have rated it much higher, but it does seem to be especially nasty about stupid things, considering that there's other things genuinely wrong with the game.

Neither Jay nor Rhys can take criticism. They deserve one another.

 
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3rd November, 2004 at 11:52:46 -

I can't find Rhys' disputed review.

 
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3rd November, 2004 at 12:12:58 -

Tigerworks> Ryh's review was deleted, why you coundn't find it.
BradonC> As you can see Wong is deleting the worst reviews. (If asked to check them, then it is in his right to delete or keep them) So if all was checked then they wouldn't have to go back to delete them.

 
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3rd November, 2004 at 15:22:06 -

Actually I was the one who deleted RhysD's review of TOR - not Wong. Obviously the review was up in retaliation against Jays review of Milber 2 (and quite frankly I couldn't find anything wrong with that review). And although Rhys review did contain some constructive critisism, it was quite clear to me that he posted it in retaliation. Hell, he even frickin mentioned it in the first line.

It's pathetic, to be honest, that we might have to consider introducing a "check review page before submission" - because the whole point of TDC is to act together as a community and offer constructive opinions. And you need to learn to deal with any negative comments, Rhys. Jay has never slagged off the game. He hasn't said any part of it is crap and not given a reason. I've studied your actions over the years and I've noticed that this is probably your weakest point - not accepting critisism. Your game has tonnes of 8/10's and 9/10's - why can't you be happy with them?

I'm not solely ganging up on Rhys either, because you have to take the rough with the smooth, and I personally think that Jay can't take critisism too well either. Also possibly a touch of arrogance in there as well

Both of you need to stop sniping at each other, and quit bitching. Save the arguments you have to private DC mail and stop dragging everyone else into it.

Oh, BTW:

http://www.create-games.com/download.asp?id=3775

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3rd November, 2004 at 16:29:39 -

TDC is a great place to post to get loads of criticisms to improve your games. You just have to ignore the people who aren't criticising you in a useful way.

 
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3rd November, 2004 at 16:59:27 -

your right there Circy, but why link to SS?

 
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4th November, 2004 at 01:56:09 -

I havent read RhysD's review on TOR for the obvious reason, but i did read Jay's review of Milber. I must admit i didnt like Milber or TOR at all, i thought they both were quite average and i wouldnt rate over a "5", and both being graphically nice yet failed completely in the gameplay area, there was no "Fun factor". I do think Jay's review was really short, not much content but not bad enough to get deleted although i havent seen RhyD's review so i cant judge whether that was bad enough to be deleted or not.

 
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4th November, 2004 at 04:07:52 -

"I think what Rhys meant is Jay is a faggety hypocrite not worth the organic material he's printed on"

Thats still no reason not to like a review. Besides that, Jay is nice to most people, Rhys can only say nice things about himself (or at least I don't remember him saying anything nice about somebody/something else).

 
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4th November, 2004 at 05:43:29 -

hey these guys are swearing, get them banned


 

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4th November, 2004 at 05:48:51 -

fuck

 

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4th November, 2004 at 06:04:21 -

I linked to Satan Sam because I didn't want to seem one sided against Rhys - and you kinda provoked an argument there in the comments section

 
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4th November, 2004 at 09:30:11 -

hmm..we are talking about stuff that happened a year ago...
Lets forget all the grudges and talk about peace, love, flowers and pink bunnies.

 
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4th November, 2004 at 13:20:21 -

I aggree with hayo (and phizzy )

 
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8th November, 2004 at 12:40:21 -

I agree with Firemonkey. All games have something good about them.

And I hate when reviews are just used as a mad grab for DC points. Such as this one for GLOB: EPISODE I: http://www.create-games.com/review.asp?id=2366

Sure, the game sucked, I admit it, but it doesn't exactly say why in the review. When I give a bad review, I try to explain how it can be made better. But Mill Kenny didn't say why. He just repeated some quote from a Star Wars add or something.


 
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8th November, 2004 at 12:40:37 -

I agree with Firemonkey. All games have something good about them.

And I hate when reviews are just used as a mad grab for DC points. Such as this one for GLOB: EPISODE I: http://www.create-games.com/review.asp?id=2366

Sure, the game sucked, I admit it, but it doesn't exactly say why in the review. When I give a bad review, I try to explain how it can be made better. But Mill Kenny didn't say why. He just repeated some quote from a Star Wars add or something.

P.S. Newklear Productions should virtually die.

 
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8th November, 2004 at 16:51:48 -

thanks lazarus, i love you too

 
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8th November, 2004 at 17:41:04 -

I wuv you both. GROUP HUGG

 
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8th November, 2004 at 22:11:07 -

Awwwwww....


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Get away.

 
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8th November, 2004 at 23:27:11 -

I have to completely agree with Radix's point about people rating too high. I find myself guilty of that often. Then again, there's also the problem that nobody rates the Overall score a ten, because "no game is perfect." I always find this annoying because it's similar to having something and never using it.

 
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9th November, 2004 at 06:59:38 -

Well, it gives you a frame of reference, so it's serving a purpose. If it only went up to 9, nothing would rate above 8.

 
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19th November, 2004 at 20:20:59 -

k, you can stop sucking his cock now circy

p.s. hayo I do say nice things, to people who aren't fucking full of themselves and deserve my 'nice' attention.

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19th November, 2004 at 22:28:09 -

You can't say anything nice at all can you, Rhys? You'll badger anyone who supports those you dislike.

I suggest you do a bit of growing up.

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20th November, 2004 at 03:15:33 -

What the fuck? Why should I change my views just to suit someone elses? It's the Internet, get a clue.

 
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20th November, 2004 at 04:58:19 -

i think that's enough of this.

 
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