The Daily Click ::. Forums ::. Klik Coding Help ::. If it went MMF to TGF, not TGF to MMF?
 

Post Reply  Post Oekaki 
 

Posted By Message

Silveraura

God's God

Registered
  08/08/2002
Points
  6747

Game of the Week WinnerKlikCast StarAlien In Training!VIP Member360 OwnerWii OwnerSonic SpeedThe Cake is a LieComputerChristmas Tree!
I am an April Fool
14th December, 2004 at 23:04:06 -

Hey, just an interesting question I was thinking of, that might have been answered many times, but I just wanted to see what people would say for myself.
We are all 100% aware of the many people who complain about MMF's interface, regardless to its power, & we who actually deal with it, are those who actually know that the complex interface actually know that its 20x easyer then learning complex code, I mean all your doing here is getting used to an interface & your all set.

Here is my simple question though, if TGF did NOT come first, & MMF did, would we all still think TGF is better? Regardless to the fact that its nothing but a down grade to TGF. Now remember, if MMF came first, the interface would be easyer for us, because we would NOT be compairing it to a lower level program with a better interface, no, we would actually be compairing it to nothing but the complexity of code. So seeing as how easy MMF really is compaired to code, if TGF came after MMF, would the majority of us still say that TGF itself was better regardless to the fact that its alot less powerful?

 
http://www.facebook.com/truediamondgame

醤油の兵士

Almost Human

Registered
  12/06/2002
Points
  173

VIP Member
14th December, 2004 at 23:07:11 -

dunno, I only used CNC (The version that was different than TGF in many ways) but, I hated that interface anyways.

 
As a boy, I wanted to be a train. I didn’t realize this was unusual—that other kids played with trains, not as them.

AsparagusTrevor

Mine's a pint of the black stuff

Registered
  20/08/2002
Points
  2364

Game of the Week WinnerHas Donated, Thank You!VIP MemberEvil kliker
14th December, 2004 at 23:53:01 -

Que?

 
Image

Hernan



Registered
  04/03/2003
Points
  707

VIP Member
15th December, 2004 at 10:11:08 -

If TGF came later, Clickteam probably was taken over by a bunch if baboons. MMF has a lot more power, so you can't really make the comparison.
Although, I still think TGF has a better interface. It was much easier and faster. MMF has a like, a 50 buttons, and I only use about 10 of them frequently. Also, you can't change the properties and qualifiers of objects at the same time in MMF, while it was possible in TGF. Although MMF exceeds TGF in power, making games in TGF is faster.

 
This space is for rent

ChrisB

Crazy?

Registered
  16/08/2002
Points
  5457
15th December, 2004 at 12:38:04 -

I don't care, I'm just waiting on MMF2.

 
n/a

Silveraura

God's God

Registered
  08/08/2002
Points
  6747

Game of the Week WinnerKlikCast StarAlien In Training!VIP Member360 OwnerWii OwnerSonic SpeedThe Cake is a LieComputerChristmas Tree!
I am an April Fool
15th December, 2004 at 14:28:17 -

Well I'm also waiting to MMF2, I just hope they add more to the picture editor, because its extreme annoying.

 
http://www.facebook.com/truediamondgame

AS Filipowski



Registered
  29/02/2004
Points
  444
15th December, 2004 at 16:46:00 -

I like MMF, but i do agree TGF's interface was easier. But MMF's power wins overall I think.

 
I do not have a signature of my own

Silveraura

God's God

Registered
  08/08/2002
Points
  6747

Game of the Week WinnerKlikCast StarAlien In Training!VIP Member360 OwnerWii OwnerSonic SpeedThe Cake is a LieComputerChristmas Tree!
I am an April Fool
15th December, 2004 at 17:49:47 -

the point i am trying to make is, if MMF came before TGF, & it was the first to overall the ease of power, not TGF, would people complain about its interface?

 
http://www.facebook.com/truediamondgame

JP



Registered
  07/06/2003
Points
  1338
15th December, 2004 at 18:17:06 -

the answer is no.

 
Steve Zissou: Anne-Marie, do all the interns get Glocks?

Anne-Marie: No, they have to share one.

Radix

hot for teacher

Registered
  01/10/2003
Points
  3139

Has Donated, Thank You!VIP MemberGOTW WINNER CUP 1!GOTW WINNER CUP 2!GOTW WINNER CUP 3!GOTW WINNER CUP 4!
15th December, 2004 at 18:43:55 -

Probably. People who whine seem simply not to use MMF enough. It has a lot of advantages and it takes like twenty minutes to get used to the interface. If I had to deal with a trickier interface in exchange for being able to make better games, I don't see the fucking boggle.

 
http://www.klikscene.com

Silveraura

God's God

Registered
  08/08/2002
Points
  6747

Game of the Week WinnerKlikCast StarAlien In Training!VIP Member360 OwnerWii OwnerSonic SpeedThe Cake is a LieComputerChristmas Tree!
I am an April Fool
15th December, 2004 at 18:52:58 -

In other words, its 1 word.

Lazyness

They dont want to code, regardless to the fact that its extremly powerful, they dont want to use MMF, again, regardless to its power, so they stay curlled up around TGF because they like the ease, regardless if its about maybe only 40% as powerful as MMF, if that!

 
http://www.facebook.com/truediamondgame

ChrisB

Crazy?

Registered
  16/08/2002
Points
  5457
15th December, 2004 at 19:41:19 -

Their games would probably suck anyway.

 
n/a

AsparagusTrevor

Mine's a pint of the black stuff

Registered
  20/08/2002
Points
  2364

Game of the Week WinnerHas Donated, Thank You!VIP MemberEvil kliker
15th December, 2004 at 19:49:12 -

I had to use TGF today to debug a friend's game, and it's even more horrible than I remembered. Worse of all, it's unstable as hell, it crashed three times while I was doing simple things such as editing events.

EDIT: There's more. On trying to import a rendered animation from 3D Studio, after rendering it as the obsolete FLI format, I've hit a shit thing where if I want to have a transparent background and keep the frame size (for hotspot purposes) I have to remove the background pixels by hand from every frame. Plus I have to place the hotspot on every fram by hand rather than ALT+Clicking. Also, it doesn't seem to support simple things we take for granted, such as Select All (Alt+A) and mouse wheel scrolling in the event editor, etc, plus every time you undo, you lose your fucking place in the picture editor.

Goddamn, how do people use this program? How did I ever use this program to make full programs? No wonder I had to restart the (originally coded in TGF) Zombies Now engine from scratch in MMF.

Image Edited by the Author.

 
Image

Nuklear41

Possibly Insane

Registered
  12/01/2008
Points
  2395

VIP MemberPS3 OwnerWii Owner
15th December, 2004 at 20:38:58 -

mmf is better. End of story.

 
Image

Assault Andy

Administrator
I make other people create vaporware

Registered
  29/07/2002
Points
  5686

Game of the Week WinnerVIP Member360 OwnerGOTM JUNE - 2009 - WINNER!GOTM FEB - 2010 - WINNER!	I donated an open source project
15th December, 2004 at 20:56:03 -

It's not debateable. It's fact. MMF is better.

 
Creator of Faerie Solitaire:
http://www.create-games.com/download.asp?id=7792
Also creator of ZDay20 and Dungeon Dash.
http://www.Jigxor.com
http://twitter.com/JigxorAndy
   

Post Reply



 



Advertisement

Worth A Click