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4th April, 2005 at 00:18:52 -

Personally, I think just about every country in the world has a horrible education system. All these educated people are hardly any smarter than when they came in. It's based on the concept that people who work hard become smarter, which is about as dumb as the whole "No pain, no gain" exercise motto of the 80s and early 90s.

I'm just plain sick and tired of people who memorize a particular topic in an exam to score in the exam, then forget everything about the topic. They end up getting better grades than people who understand and remember the whole topic, even though they know less. So, I'm gonna write a book on the ideal education system, that shall be a guide to all countries to come!

But of course, I need some ideas, and I want to find out the flaws in my ideas.
- Education and administration shouldn't be together. This probably applies to almost every aspect of it. The problem with management is that people tend to fix things that don't need to be fixed, thus making things worse. They add more records to be filled, more subjects to cram into the syllabus, etc. Which only serves to waste time.

- Students should develop their own theories. Instead of giving a formula and giving them an example, it should be the other way around. Students should be given something that the formula applies to, then they should figure out how to solve the problem. The next day, the teacher tells them the formula/theory that applies to it. It takes a bit more time, but students would have a solid knowledge about it.

- Tests shouldn't be the main factor in telling whether a student's smart or not. A test sees whether the kid memorizes the facts in the book, but doesn't really evaluate their mastery of it, lest they get bad results. There's got to be another way.. but I have yet to find it out

- Teachers should at least know SOMETHING about what they're teaching. Damn primary school teachers here are dumber than laborers.



OK, so what complaints do you guys have?

 
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4th April, 2005 at 00:24:51 -

For the most part, mine was pretty good. There were plenty of assholes, but I suppose you get that in every school. The only real problem we had was with the ninjas. One moment you're being humiliated in PE class, the next thing *TWAK* your teacher has a katana through his head. And whenever we went into the hall for assembly, the janitors had to go through first with long brooms to try and knock all down all the ninjas hanging from the ceiling, otherwise they drop down and cut your throat if you're talking at the podium. You'd think the local council would do something about a problem like that, but nope.

 
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4th April, 2005 at 02:22:56 -

I am an advocate of public schools, my experience with them has always been very good. The only thing that pisses me off is that our school spent $800,000 on a new football field, that serves only two sports. And they didn't put astroturf in either, so the grass is already fucked up. With that kind of money they could have given EVERYBODY in school a laptop.

 
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4th April, 2005 at 12:11:06 -

Well I think the UK school system is alright. I think continual assessment (or whatever the regular exam system is called) is better than having a whole bunch of exams at once though. Like for GCSEs, it kind of sucks trying to fit ten entire subjects in your head at once. I think the US works on the regular assessment system.

Plus, I don't think it's as simple as memorising facts. Exams are usually carefully designed to make sure you understand, and haven't just memorised. For example in maths you can memorise the process to solve a quadratic equation, but if you can't spot that a question simplifies down to a quadratic equation, it aint gonna help you. You have to understand to at least some degree what you are doing.

Additionally I would not consider myself in the position to suggest an improved education system since I have no formal experience in teaching.

 
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4th April, 2005 at 12:25:48 -

i'm bringing an atomic bomb to school tomorrow!
there is no such thing as an "ok education system".

 
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4th April, 2005 at 12:27:17 -

The only problem i ever had at school was the twatty students that get talking in class around certain teahers, This made those teachers stop for a good fifteen minutes until they stopped talking and paid attention, they never did and then we all got kept in at lunch time to catch up,
Some teachers just kicked their arse and all was good.

Probably one of the reasons a did so bad at maths, our teacher couldnt teach unless there was absolute silence. geek.

 
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4th April, 2005 at 13:32:05 -

My school is alright but there's some real problems nationwide. For example, we're always being told that girls are smarter than boys, because they get higher exam results. WRONG! Both sexes are equally clever, but males have a shorter attention span and are less good at memorizing things than girls. Unless something is changed in the way the lessons are taught then boys will always have a disadvantage. For example, my last lesson at school today was Physics. The teacher babbled on at us about satellites (no diagrams) and only twice asked anybody a question. Then he buggered off, leaving us 2 pages of a textbook to do. Result? No work done and hardly any knowledge gained. The only thing I now know about satellites that I didn't before was that geostationary means the same as geosynchronous and weather satellites go up the earth rather than stay with it. That accounted for the first 2 questions of the textbook.

 
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4th April, 2005 at 13:36:08 -

the dutch education system is totally going down now and I am right in the middle of it

 
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4th April, 2005 at 15:48:07 -

the whole world's education system is fucked up. You only use like 30% of everything you learn in school. And most pain in the ass are classes like, music, religion, or art (don't really know what u call them in english, (made in Finland)). Coz u can't get better at them, either you're good or bad at it, and people that aren't good in any of these, never get anywhere in life, even if they're good at everything else.

 
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4th April, 2005 at 16:23:55 -

I think I'd pay more attention in school if they thought valuable things... like how to blow things up or opening that impossible clasp on girl's bras.

 
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4th April, 2005 at 16:34:20 -

you are supposed to learn that by just doing it alot actually.

 
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4th April, 2005 at 17:06:39 -

yeah.

 
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4th April, 2005 at 17:08:11 -

If I join the ACBR, will I get to blow things up?

 
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4th April, 2005 at 18:01:32 -

You're more likely just to be able to blow things. No 'up'.


"You only use like 30% of everything you learn in school." But how do you know what 30% you're going to need? Few people keep themselves to one type of career, and some people choose one and have to work as something else. I agree that some subjects you're just not good at, but I believe most school systems give you choices at some point.


"Additionally I would not consider myself in the position to suggest an improved education system since I have no formal experience in teaching."
Many new teachers don't have proper experience of teaching anyway (frequently taking conversion courses).

 
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5th April, 2005 at 19:07:43 -

bring back the cane! show those little shits who's boss!

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