Not really because there are limitations on human thought. It's because everything we do and think comes from an outside stimulus. Then you create other stimuli for yourself and other organisms to reply to. Every decision we make is basically pre-determined by our life experiences. We really have no choice in what we do in life. Nothing is truly random, everything is linier and there is only one possible future.
Unless there truly are minute particle we haven't discoved or don't understand whose movements are truly random.
I'm thinking too much.
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Well thats whats fun thinking hard, well somtimes if its voentary. But I dont think there is only one future mabey there are many possibilitys but you will only thinkof doing like four different things in a situation then an infinuete ammount based on what you have seen and heard in you life so in my thoughts there is only a few billion different futures not 1 and not infinute but that probably didnt make any sence because when i try to explain my thought on somthing as complicated as the futer i usually dont make sence.
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9th August, 2005 at 06:25:09 -
That random comment wasn't actually random, you know.
Perhaps one should give a definition of random, in order to make it useful for discussing.
Because things you know afterwards aren't so random anymore. But before, you couldn't predict what was going to happen.
O and for an easy implementation of random, just make a counter and make it loop (counter++) between your min and max value. And if you need a random number, just grab it.
Or use the Mersenne Twister.
Or create your own pseudo random generator.
'Hoy... I didn't think this would merit it's own thread; curious as it is, it serves little purpose.
So I'm posting it here.
I made a little program in MMF that would take an overlay object, paint it black, then, on the press of a button, fast-loop-draw 64 pixels at (random(640),random(480) with color (random(256),random(256),random(256).
And after a while, this pattern developed:
Fifth: something like that can be seen in the Mersenne Twister example. The Mersenne Twister object has a better randomizer.
<i."Unless there truly are minute particle we haven't discoved or don't understand whose movements are truly random."
Electrons move randomly in an atom.
couldnt you just do and static movement choose all 32 directions as possible to look to at the start of the frame then the direction would be completely random right?
Who said life was linear, was that just discovered and noone told me? As last I heard noone knows how to predict the movement of quantum forces, infact its very very chaotic. If fate exists, prove it.
Computers calculate 'random' numbers through various inputs. You're correct, computers aren't and most likely will never be random. Time, mouse, and various other inputs are used in calculation of 'random' numbers in a computer. If you aware of the input you can determine what number will be called, and it will no longer be random.
@Joachim: your
'10-random(10)'
example is the exact same as
'random(10)'
thinking is like pong, it's easy, but you miss sometimes.
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22nd August, 2005 at 08:17:49 -
Except that the range is 0 to 10 instead of -10 to 0.
Most programs create more random randomness by comparing the internal clock and the processor. Some of them have used user inputs like the distance the mouse has moved or keyboard stuff, but the pros don't like it as some people aren't very random when typing and using a non-essential piece of hardware means that you can't generate random numbers if say, the keyboard or mouse isn't working.
It's impossible to get truly random numbers. One book on cryptography I read has a section on unbiasing biased coins (in the digital sense). There's plenty of people and thousands of dollars invested in creating pure randomness. Some very high-security programs actually combine several sources of randomness, just to make sure that if a cryptohacker manages to plant a keygen in one of the sources, there's still the others to make it random.
Technically nothing is random in real life. Every random thing is about which subatomic particles bounce into which. But the thing is, we're unable to predict how such subatomic particles would act and that's what creates randomness. Now if someone could find a way to control subatomic particle movement, I could probably create some keygen to get passwords for high-security organisations .
Disclaimer: Any sarcasm in my posts will not be mentioned as that would ruin the purpose. It is assumed that the reader is intelligent enough to tell the difference between what is sarcasm and what is not.
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well somtimes if its voentary. But I dont think there is only one future mabey there are many possibilitys but you will only thinkof doing like four different things in a situation then an infinuete ammount based on what you have seen and heard in you life so in my thoughts there is only a few billion different futures not 1 and not infinute 
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