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Radix
hot for teacher
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01/10/2003
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3rd September, 2005 at 11:47:30 -
This 'disaster' is a result of pollution and resource abuse.
Uh, what? You mean climate change? Because, you know, we had big hurricanes before that... otherwise the scale wouldn't even go up to 5. Even if it were a direct result as opposed to an anomaly, there's mounting evidence that climate change isn't anthropogenic.
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Matt Boothman
The Nissan Micra of forum members
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20/09/2002
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3rd September, 2005 at 12:08:41 -
America deserves what it gets to be honest. That may sound harsh, but their governments donations towards the big Tsunami and the famines in Africa were pitiful, regarding their economic power and massive wealth. Americans just don't care unless it's themselves that's the victims. George Bush even said today himself "The aid towards the victims of the hurricane was inadequate" (not actual quote, but near enough). Other than that, everything Radix said I agree with. Some things Novasoft I agree with also, but the stuff about this disaster being caused by humans is absolute balderdash.
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Retired Kliker Lazarus
The Ed Wood JR of TDC
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18/07/2003
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3rd September, 2005 at 12:39:48 -
"Inadequate"....President Bush can say that word? Wow. He must be taking lessons or something.
Anyway, I strongly disagree with what you say, Noodle- America does not deserve what it gets. America shouldn't be going around forcing democracy on everyone, this is true- but that also means they are NOT responsible for everything that goes wrong. They have enough problems themselves right now.
The victims of this hurricane are just showing the animal inside us. They are just trying to survive (except for the ones that steal televisions and stuff...what's the point of that? They can't use it...there's no power going to the entire place....)
Side note: George Bush is an idiot...but he's not an evil man. He's human. He does what he thinks will help his country.
Fine Garbage since 2003.
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Matt Boothman
The Nissan Micra of forum members
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3rd September, 2005 at 12:54:39 -
These problems being what exactly? Ensuring they pump enough smoke into the air to cause China to blackout? Arranging weapon trades with Iran? Avoiding signing the Kyoto agreement?
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colej_uk
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3rd September, 2005 at 15:38:08 -
So Noodle... you're saying America deserves this because they didn't donate enough to the tsunami cause- does that mean you think something bad should happen to people who don't donate?
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Ski
TDC is my stress ball
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13/03/2005
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3rd September, 2005 at 16:13:20 -
oh my god. hey did anyone see Bush's speech on the news yesterday? He repeated every thing he had said in the first 40 seconds. dumb ass. And i thought Blair was bad.
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JP
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07/06/2003
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3rd September, 2005 at 17:06:43 -
Let’s try and break this up into truths:
1. You have the right not to donate.
2. Donating would help people in need.
3. Hurricane Katrina was not made or significantly altered by man, although the Gulf of Mexico has a one degree higher ocean temperature than a decade ago.
4. America did not deserve this. Looking past borders, we are all people. This is even more wrong when you look at the people this affected.
5. The majority of people who did not leave had no choice, the affected area is the size of Kansas, there is no walking. There were not enough busses, the assembly points were in places like the convention center and the Superdome.
And if I'm flinging righteous poop, you're throwing wicked poop (antonym). Although you say you defend people's right to not donate, you are taking a staunch opposition against donating, against donators, and against the people of NOLA.
Steve Zissou: Anne-Marie, do all the interns get Glocks?
Anne-Marie: No, they have to share one.
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Radix
hot for teacher
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01/10/2003
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3rd September, 2005 at 17:18:55 -
Nonsense. I have said repeatedly that people should and will donate if they want to. I do have a philosphical objection to charity in general, but in particular there are causes that are both worth donating to and that will benefit from donations.
This isn't necessarily one of them. Charity should be an entirely private thing, as such anyone may evaluate the cause through their own set of values: for evey point you make there is a simple enough counter, objective or otherwise.
The majority of people who did not leave had no choice, the affected area is the size of Kansas, there is no walking. There were not enough busses, the assembly points were in places like the convention center and the Superdome.
How many is three? Oh right, it's three.
You are point-blank accusing those who chose not to donate of inflicting disutility on the possible beneficiaries. This is not only an invalid point, it's offensive and hypocritical.
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Knudde (Shab)
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Crazy?
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31/01/2003
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3rd September, 2005 at 17:42:50 -
Administrative Message: This topic has been locked.
Craps, I'm an old man!
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