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Pixalatio
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8th January, 2006 at 19:51:02 -
ok, to cut a relatively short story even shorter, i need to learn java, and i need to learn it without going through squillions of page of crap to find one poonugget bit of information, and it has to be relevent to coding applications *not* applets. I need links to decent tuts or sites, and if anyone knows one, a link to a free java IDE that doesnt suck =
cheers.
Twas brillig, and the slivey toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe,
All mimsy were the borogroves,
And the momewraths outgrabe.
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Keatontech!
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8th January, 2006 at 22:34:35 -
I myself am trying to find something like that, nothing so far, sorry.
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mushi-games
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8th January, 2006 at 23:51:08 -
Java is a great language, and it is large and a bit of a mission to learn (depending on what you want to do), but there is a wealth of information about it on the net, and it's very easy to find. First download a easy to use IDE, Borland JBuilder 2005 is probably the most newbie friendly, and it's only a 90 meg download (I think), I wouldn't stick with it, but it's great for learning, you sure as hell wont find anything easier to use. And as for information on java, it's one of the easiest languages to find help with, did you try *cough* java.sun.com?
This is great if you want to get into applications:
http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/uiswing/components/example-1dot4/
And more generally:
http://java.sun.com/developer/codesamples/index.html
And of course solutions to common problems and a lot of useful code can be found by searching:
http://forum.java.sun.com/index.jspa
You won't learn Java by just copying what you need from code examples though, you WILL have to read a fair bit about the language.
Basically most searches for Java methods will lead you straight to Sun, Java is an excellently documented language with a tonne of practical examples.
-Have fun.
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mushi-games
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8th January, 2006 at 23:54:11 -
Make that JBuilder 2006 ;P
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David Newton (DavidN)
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9th January, 2006 at 08:54:40 -
The course I'm on uses Eclipse as standard, and I also have NetBeans, which is decent for GUI building. Although Java's suitability for anything graphical is debatable - it's the only language I know where elements are ordered from front to back instead of the other way round, and some of the drawing and event listening concepts are unspeakably horrendous.
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Pixalatio
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9th January, 2006 at 10:20:55 -
@ mushi-games *cough* im not a retard. Of course i looked there, i looked there first and what seemed to be an almost entirely unstructured tutorial full of things i didn't need to know and lacking in what i wanted to know - how the damn syntax works, and what funtions there are in its import libraries or whatever the hell they are. sorry for being so rude... *reads rest of post* ill look at those tuts i guess... cheers
Twas brillig, and the slivey toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe,
All mimsy were the borogroves,
And the momewraths outgrabe.
http://www.pixalatio.tk - visit me please
Did you know that your computer has secret buttons hiding behind others.
I intent to never delete any part of my sig until it is t big to handle.
for one small minute my rating was possibly insane
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mushi-games
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17/02/2005
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9th January, 2006 at 12:41:22 -
Hehe, yeah sorry, I agree it is hard to find stuff on Sun, but it is there (I always end up there via google though, I never navigate the actual site, just too damn convoluted).
Also I forgot to mention http://math.hws.edu/javanotes/ which is kind of an online text book, it starts off from the very simple, like general knowledge about Java, as well as the syntax and OOP (OOP is a huge topic in itself, and Java is a strict(er) OO language, so you need to know all about that). If your just starting out, this is the essential stuff.
And David, event listing in Java I find really simple, it's especially easy to learn if your coming from processing windows messages in c++, I mean it's very abstract, but it has to be, it's Java. Just my thoughts...
-Peace
He did harken unto her, "hark hark," harkened he.
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