I bought a Core 2 Duo desktop PC thinner than my 24" Dell monitor (I can afford 2 monitors, Noodle, SOSUEME), got all the bells n whistles and cost less than a Dell of THE SAME SPECS and without a chunky desktop case. All in one fuckin lovely monitor It runs OSX and XP. It can run Vista, but I already have OSX.
Oh hey, if OSX is so bad why has Vista tried to emulate it so?
Meh. I'm on XP now. I use it for MMF2 and Half Life 2. If your some moron who actually can't be unbiased then go swivvel. I'm using one dual processor, 64bit system with a shoddy 32bit OS and a robus 64bit one, each one being used for its benefits. Mac Gaming? Who the fuck cares? I don't have a single game on the Mac side. Coursework, video editing, music production, photo organising etc is done there.
What a sad world huh
erathean; don't bother. The collective retardedness of users who hark on about a dated OS cannot be drowned out. There's even logical sides to the argument, like the fact that HFS+ is a better file system than FAT32/NTFS or the quicker boot times or cross-OS application benchmarks (which my machine demonstrates perfectly). There is no logic involved.
Whilst yea, at first OSX seemed sluggish. now I'm using (like erathean said), Expose, Spotlight and other nifty features that XP doesn't have I'm simply flying through.
My iMac... the most compatible home computer going. and I fucking adore it.
Ps. the only high-jacking I can see is a lot of angsty kids.
Bibin, come on now...
[i]Well, yes and no. The graphic design completely depends on what programs you use and the machine itself. As for web work, if you mean iWeb, it's really just a bunch of crappy templates that automatically add the apple logo on the bottom. [/i]
You realise that iWeb is nothing more than a cut down version of Frontpage, right? It's designed for people with absolutely no knowledge of websites or HTML coding. There a roll eyes smiley?
[i]Mac isn't really that bad, but when people say "OMG IT'S BETTAR AND MOR POWRFULLL" they're talking out of their asses. It's not even the operating system that makes a computer fast as much as the machine itself. Run OS X on the latest Dell machine ( you can, they just don't want you to know ), it's really fast. Run the same OS on and older one, it's slower.[/i]
As you said previously - yes and no. The OS has less bloatware attached to it, or whatever it's called now. My physical RAM says I have 568mb available, this is with just AVG and IE7 running. And all that "Windows Defender" and those numerous little icons in the taskbar. OSX? I have 780mb free. On the same machine. Windows uses 2% of the CPU(s) when typing, 4% whilst moving a mouse. OSX doesn't. But I could harp on all day, it won't make any difference
It might be because I'm using a 32bit version of XP compared to 64bit OSX... but even all the apps I use run faster. Photoshop CS2 runs 4% SLOWER in OSX than XP, this is using a built in emulator to run old Mac programs on new intel Macs. Imagine how fast a native Photoshop will run under OSX? Incredible really. hmm.
MasterM, sounds like bad luck that. The only time I've ever had my own Mac crash on me was when I tried to instal an iMac Tiger CD onto a PPC Powerbook. Till then I had no idea what a crashed Mac looked like. I've pushed all my machines with FCP, Logic etc. hmm 2.
The college Macs crash quite a lot on me. It happens when you do stuff like "Print" on Photoshop, or "Eject" the USB bar.
Thing is, all in all, there's not a huge amount of difference between the Macs and PCs speed-wise and quality-wise. It's just that Windows is much, much easier to use, has a better interface, and has all the software.
I hope to God that there's at least one PC when I go to uni. I couldn't be doing all my design work on Macs, it'd take me twice as long.
"Trying to grab the bottom right corner to make the window bigger. Damn, the flashy menu bar popped up, and I've clicked on "Toast". Awww no, Toast has opened now. Right-click, force quit. Right-click, force quit. Right-click, force quit. Aww shite, why won't the swirly coloured icon come off? It won't go off! Aaagh, nothing works now. I haven't saved my coursework. Aww shite, I'll have to reset" - my average experience with a Mac.
What model are those Macs Boothman, are they running OS X Tiger?
I've had problems with 10.1 and 10.2 but 10.3 and 10.4 run things perfectly for me and remember computers in educational institutions are generally bare minimum specification machines. For example the AMD64 Windows machines in my school die when you run more than one tab in Firefox yet at home it's around 30 or 40 tabs.
I'd argue on the UI thing but it is personal choice - certainly for people experiencing computers for the first time Mac goes down a lot better as far as my experience goes. My brother is another example - he just got a MacBook for university and it really opened his eyes to computing again having hated Windows.
All in all its personal preference and dependent on the machines you're using. I'd never have said I liked Mac OS until Panther and Tiger came along.
I don't understand why people try so hard to stick up for "their OS" - people like different things for different reasons. I prefer Windows to Mac - but that doesn't mean I think Mac sucks. There are advantages and disadvantages for both. Some people say they hate windows because Bill Gate is involved in it - I think if that is your reason for hating an OS, then you're stupid.
I don't understand all these negative comments about Vista neither - it's clearly better than XP (in my opinion), yet people are slagging it off just because they hate Microsoft.
"I don't understand all these negative comments about Vista neither - it's clearly better than XP (in my opinion), yet people are slagging it off just because they hate Microsoft."
Nothing on that site gives a clear explanation as to why people can go around saying Vista sucks, don't buy it.
It's just another of those Microsoft hate sites.