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19th May, 2007 at 15:49:01 -

Yippee! PSOne titles! Now honestly... The Spyro games are good, but who in their right mind would pick Spyro before Super Mario 64? Lots of PSOne games were good for their time, but not many stands the test of time. Besides, lots of the most popular PSOne games have also gotten much improved versions for the newer systems and the PSOne versions feel aged, but without the cool nostalgia feeling of a NES or SNES game.

The PSP can play NES and SNES games, at least if you know how. You can play N64 games too, although at rather poor speeds at the moment. Plus the legal issues with using roms .etc

Can't complain about your comments on the PS3 though - you're pretty much right. I'd just rather pay the money for a video game console and blu-ray player, than buy a 360. That's just my opinion - although I do plan on buying a second hand 360 for when I go to uni, although just need to save up the cash for that as obviously, I'm a bit tight at the moment

And I don't think the PS3 is a lousy video games console - sure it doesn't have any games that are classics, but neither did the 360 when it first came out. There are a lot of games that I'm looking forward to playing on my PS3, and there are a lot of games for the 360 which hopefully I'll be playing, once I get my hands on a cheap 360.

I do however disagree completely with your PSOne comments - there are so many games for the PSOne which I love playing on my PSP:

- Metal gear solid
- Final fantasy 7, 8
- Gran turismo
- Syphon filter
- Crash bandicoot, Spyro
- Castlevania

And then theres so many more I can't even think about. Plus all the classic NES, SNES and genesis games I have for it. I certainly do not regret buying my PSP. With it's power completely unlocked, it was probably one of the best buys I've made yet.

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19th May, 2007 at 16:16:36 -

I'm not talking about the PsOne funtionality. To me, that's essentially Sony saying "We need to do SOMETHING with the Psp". The fact that you need a Ps3 (Or a hacked Psp) to load the games onto the Psp isn't helping either.

Developers have already jumped the Psp ship, besides some token titles, the Psp lineup is looking like a parallel to the Gamecube lineup. The GC was a good system, but the support was never there. The Psp is a good system, and it HAD the support, but lost it; and it's going to be harder to get it back.

The homebrew doesn't really factor in to what my point here is (Being more corperate than consumer oriented; cause to be honest, the consumers can keep buying a "dead" console for years after it's death), but rest assured that homebrew will keep the Psp going; just not officially.

It's the difference between the Game Gear failure (Years of kicking and screaming) and the Neo-Geo Pocket (6 months later, POOF! It's gone!). The Psp is this genny's Game Gear. I was hoping that they would have gone ahead with the plans for the Psp2, but it seems like they want to stick with the Psp1 (with a redesign however) which I think is a massive mistake, because you can bet Nintendo's planning a DS successor already.

 
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19th May, 2007 at 16:16:59 -

- Metal gear solid

Can't answer this one. I've never been much into the Metal Gear series.

- Final fantasy 7, 8

You hit a sore spot there. I used to love RPGs. But I don't think the PSP is fit for a first play-through. Those games deserves to be played on a decent size tv. Sure the PSP has a large screen but still a far cry from a conventional tv set. For repeated plays though, sure

- Syphon filter

I have never played this one. I looked it up on wikipedia and there's a PSP game in the series available though.

- Gran turismo

This falls in the "has been surpassed" category.

- Crash bandicoot, Spyro

Crash Bandicoot is pretty mediocre in my eyes. I do love the Spyro games though, but they're hardly classics in the way Super Mario 64 and Banjo-Kazooie for the N64 were.

- Castlevania

See Metal Gear Solid.

 
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19th May, 2007 at 16:20:53 -

Do you like Metroid Phreddy?

 
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19th May, 2007 at 16:24:08 -

Phreddy- It worked for the PS2 because there was no competition for DVD, and DVD was required. Unlike HD-DVD and BluRay, as HDTV owners are still a vast minority of the market.
The PS3 is doing comparatively bad compared to how the PS2 performed. Even the GC and 360 sold more than the PS3 in its first 6 months, though the Wii has destroyed everything as is outperforming the PS2. The Wii actually is the best selling console ever and it's still top dog after 6 months.

PS1 was brilliant. I'd rather have an N64 (OoT, F-Zero, Mario 64 and Goldeneye) but the PS1 is the only Sony system I have any respect for. Back before they were cloning B&O designs. But FF7, Tomb Raider, Castlevania. Classic games. But never in a blue moon would I pay £130 for a PSP to play just them (seeing there are no PSP games interesting me in the slightest).

What these big companies are forgetting is that games are toys. As pointed out by the 6 month sales chart - if there is cheaper competition it will sell. No mass public spent too much for a toy.

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19th May, 2007 at 17:11:19 -

"Final fantasy 7, 8"

What about 9?

 
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19th May, 2007 at 17:21:21 -

Yeah, I agree. FF9 was great. Chrono Cross, Parasite Eve and Xenogears are three other great Squaresoft PSOne RPGs, although neither of those were released in Europe

 
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19th May, 2007 at 23:52:54 -

The PS3 is far from dead! If only I did not have a Xbox 360 I would have gotten a PS3. Until we see more first party games come into play and all systems, then I shall see what is the real contender here. In terms of games the PS3 is at the moment useless when you have a XBOX 360, and the Xbox360 is useless when you have the PS3. Right now I can't afford a PS3 at the moment, but I have been having fun with my Wii and 360 library.

 
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20th May, 2007 at 07:30:39 -

The PS3 is far from dead! If only I did not have a Xbox 360 I would have gotten a PS3.
Considering that the PS3 and 360 has a pretty much equal game selection at the moment (actually no, the 360 selection is greater unless you count ps1 and ps2 games), and the 360 cost about half as much, would you pick the PS3?

Until we see more first party games come into play and all systems, then I shall see what is the real contender here.
First party games? How many decent games by Sony or Microsoft have you played? Halo? That's a second party title, developed by Bungie but PUBLISHED by Microsoft. Resistance: Fall of man? Developed by Insomniac and PUBLISHED by Sony. The only console manufacturer who also do games themselves is Nintendo.

In terms of games the PS3 is at the moment useless when you have a XBOX 360, and the Xbox360 is useless when you have the PS3.
The 360 has way more titles than the PS3 (unless you count PS1 and PS2 games)

Right now I can't afford a PS3 at the moment, but I have been having fun with my Wii and 360 library.
Will you buy a PS3 when you can afford it, or will you spend it on games for your other consoles instead? I know what I'd do.

 
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20th May, 2007 at 07:46:26 -

The PS3 has only been out for a few months, while the 360 has been out for like a year - so of course the PS3 will have less titles. Like I said, look at the games announced at the Sony gamer's day - I personally think that most of them look awesome. So there are loads of PS3 titles to come, as well as the 40+ games that are being developed especially for the playstation store/network. Like I said, I am one of the few people who have confidence in the PS3 - not confidence to succeed, but confidence to give me decent games that are entertaining.

I think it's a shame that people are writing off the PS3 already, even though it's only been in Europe for 8 weeks. If you have common sense, you have to give any console at least a year until you can judge it. The same went for the 360 - it's starting line up was poor and sales were not that good either - but after a year, the games for it are amazing (Crackdown, Gears of war, Lost planet - and Halo 3 beta looks pretty good too) and it's starting to kick off.

I'm a video game fanatic and am somebody who tries to get my hands on every console and every game that has the potential to be a classic. The only consoles I have never bought and won't buy are the Gamecube and the Wii. I don't have anything against nintendo (I owned a NES, NES, N64, gameboy .etc) - those consoles just didn't appeal to me. Maybe I'll add them to my collection in 1-2 years time.

I just can't describe how annoying I find people who are Sony and Microsoft fanboys, and slag off the PS3 or 360 and try persuading people to buy one over the other. Especially when they've not even owned or played on the console - they just assume it's crap. I think they should just leave people to make their own opinions and realise that both consoles are good.

Anyway who cares, the PC is better than every video games console put together

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"Anyway who cares, the PC is better than every video games console put together "

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20th May, 2007 at 08:16:56 -

PC's win? On a power level yes. But srsly have you been into GAME and looked at the top 10 or whatever? There is so much recycled crap. I've got a fairly capable computer that runs Oblivion, FEAR etc at good speeds. The only PC game I play is HL2: Deathmatch. Nothing else interests me. at all.

Anyroad. The PS3 has been out for 6 months (along with the Wii) everywhere except Europe. And it's doing poorly there too. Even from a dev point of view - what's the point of programming for the PS3 now? Putting arguments about "being out longer" and "larger library already" aside, the 360 has the same power as a PS3, it costs less and is in more peoples homes. As an educated buyer that makes me think getting a PS3 is a little pointless as games are going multiplatform making a dual PS3/360 purchase even more pointless.

Flava you sort of lose credibility for being the console sympathiser when you say you don't have or want a Cube or Wii. Fair doos you might not like them but it does sort of put a bias sound on what you say. I know I'm not exactly enlightened myself but at least I gave the PS3 a shot and got my own. You should really give it a try, Wii Sports and Excite Truck are 2 of the best and most fresh feeling games I've played since they went 3D on the N64. Any video game fanatic would want something as interesting as the Wii. Please say you at least own a DS...

 
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20th May, 2007 at 08:20:53 -

oh let him be jealous. He's one who can't let go of his pride and admit they're a complete rip-off.

 
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20th May, 2007 at 08:23:16 -

I did own a DS, but I sold it because there were no games that I liked. Although this was a year ago, and before the DS lite came out. The DS lite looks a lot better, and there are games like Wario Ware and Mario which I'd like to try. The only reason I can afford a PS3 and 360 is because I've saved up my Xmas and birthday money for the last year - plus I don't spend my earnings from my part time job. So I'll probably by a DS when I go to uni or something - they're only £70 now I think?

And regarding the developers for PS3 thing, even though people on blogs are saying that developers don't want to develop for the PS3, there are still lots of developers for the PS3. Like I always say, don't just a console on what is happening now - judge it when it's dead. Every console dies, either a success or a failure. Apart from my mega drive which is still living downstairs

I slightly agree and disagree with your comments regarding PC gaming, but I'm not going to give my opinion because I'll probably turn bias without realising and then get harassed and abused for the rest of my life

Lets just say I love any video games, whether it's on the NES, Wii, 360 or PS3. Which is true actually.
And Adam, they are a complete rip-off. But it doesn't matter for me because I'm loaded (I'm joking about the being loaded, but money doesn't really play a big part in my life - I'd rather have fun in a short period than just have a bank full of money in a long period).

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