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11th May, 2007 at 07:19:21 -

If I I want a website that deletes pretty much every thread and comment I would go to Total Klik. Since when are nazis in charge of the DC? Stop deleting every single thing and just don’t bother. Delete stuff if there is a massive flame war going on with awful insults or if people post goatse but otherwise TDC should be a FREE SITE where everybody is allowed to have an opinion. You know opinions are like assholes- everybody got one and you have to STAND and TOLERATE that and not delete every thing like the Chinese government.
I’m talking about my “American Beauty” picture. As you could tell I put some time and effort into this drawing and I was proud of the shading and colouring- and what do you do? You just DELETE my thread and won’t even tell me why or anything. Don’t be jealous because you can’t draw. It’s pretty unfair and ignorant towards any artist to delete his stuff.


 
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11th May, 2007 at 07:27:43 -

if you are talking about youre anti USA treads get over it i requested them to be deleated cuz bashing the most powerful country in the world is pretty lame.
so go use youre talents for drawing pictures of things people actually like european man!

 
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11th May, 2007 at 07:28:34 -

What the lol, anti USA where?

 
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11th May, 2007 at 07:30:00 -

The american beauty thread was just getting funny

 
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11th May, 2007 at 07:30:29 -

Here's my view on the issue.

Thread locking: Ok
Editing single offending posts: Also ok
Deleting whole threads: LAME

*awaits thread deletion*

 
- Ok, you must admit that was the most creative cussing this site have ever seen -

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11th May, 2007 at 08:23:40 -

I agree, even though anti-[country] threads are stupid.

 
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11th May, 2007 at 08:30:02 -

Nah, there wasn't much "anti" about that thread, it was just a parody but some people didn't notice that.

 
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11th May, 2007 at 10:21:20 -

A simple joke if you will... no need to get pissy over it, and I live in the USA.

 
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11th May, 2007 at 10:58:23 -

This picture contained something that should not been shown here.

 
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11th May, 2007 at 11:04:55 -

Says the guy who has a gun in his avatar.

 
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11th May, 2007 at 11:06:04 -

Says the guy who has a gun in his avatar.

 
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11th May, 2007 at 11:06:36 -

At the end of the day, we can't please everybody. We have people complaining to us to delete threads, and we have people complaining to us not to delete threads. By visiting this website, you have pretty much agreed to follow our rules - of which you can see - http://www.create-games.com/rules.asp. Sure, the rules might be a bit outdated but if we feel a thread breaks the rules, it gets deleted.

I didn't delete your thread, but I could understand why another admin may have done so. The drawing you posted was good, but could be considered offensive to some people. I like a joke every now and then, and I found it slightly amusing (not hilarious though ), but that doesn't mean everybody else does. Another admin obviously felt that it broke our rules and decided to delete it.

I don't know, that's just my opinion

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11th May, 2007 at 11:07:07 -

Dumb edit: "I blame my super shit internet connection atm for this double post."

Why aren't we allowed to always edit our posts? This is lame

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11th May, 2007 at 11:12:31 -

Editing post should not be able, when someone has just (potentially) answered on it. Believe me :---).

 
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11th May, 2007 at 11:16:56 -

Believe me when I say it's nonsense. It's possible on any forum and only causes inconveniences like this. :---------------------).

 
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11th May, 2007 at 11:29:16 -

As long as it is convenient for admins, it is good :---). If someone made thread against someone (for example this nice anti-US), made some people unhappy, and then changed thread's name to "I like sweets", admins would have more to find out, who "is that bad person".

Community is hostile, but it is not anything strange.

EDIT: Doubles happens very often :---(.

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11th May, 2007 at 11:46:13 -

Bloody hell. The topic said NSFW. That usually indicates the material is sensitive and might upset some people.

Request- age ratings for threads. let the more grown up among us chuckle at rude images and joke opinions without having the kids claim it's offensive (hey dats the point!) when they've forgotten their breast feed.

 
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11th May, 2007 at 12:16:10 -

The thread should not have been deleted in the first place, I can't really believe the thread was deleted because peterd complained, he's a retard who has only made either stupid or provoking posts. Neither can I believe cartoon boobs aren't allowed.
But deleting it without informing MasterM is plain stupid and means it's high time for a new admin.


 
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11th May, 2007 at 12:42:29 -

Trouble is, MasterM, you've created loads of new topics in recent days/weeks and is as good as spamming.

If a thread is deleted, there's usually a good reason why. I didn't find it particularly funny either, you should have posted it at TK's Roofle Den, I don't think stuff gets deleted there - but here TDC is a family site, we keep saying it. Your picture was inappropriate, and insulting the admins gives you no favours either.

Sorry you're unhappy about it, but thats the way the cookie crumbles.

 
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11th May, 2007 at 13:29:55 -

LOL so I am a retard now for defending my country? youre name is hayo are you from pakistan or what?
you guys should learn to respect the admins they made the descision to deleate youre stupid threads so get over it and post something cool

 
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11th May, 2007 at 13:37:20 -

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11th May, 2007 at 13:40:38 -

He is real.

 
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11th May, 2007 at 13:44:41 -

I am a blonde ****

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"LOL so I am a retard now for defending my country? youre name is hayo are you from pakistan or what? "

xenophobists are retards.

 
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11th May, 2007 at 13:57:27 -

Nice on Hayo.

If PeterD IS real, he's a HUGE FAGGOT.

 
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11th May, 2007 at 14:26:39 -

I have just realised what NSFW means. This is complicated.

I know that my words are not sound as important as yours, but it does not matter ;---). Spend a while to read this old boy :---).

Is there anything better for admin than seeing that someone dislikes him for putting all hard work in TDC? :---). On the other hand, it is bad that such popular person like MasterM is not informed by admin about deleting his thread. Well, I would not complain if someone deleted my thread (what actually happened?), because of being not well known :---)... but MasterM do not deserve to be treated that way.

But...

Also administration do not deserve to be getting such threads like this. Well, Every admins' decision should be Respected. IMO such problem like "why have you deleted my thread?!" should be solved by talking throught DC-mail or something other... but not by showing anothers that we did not like admin's decision. :---(

Also...

Are you going to be against PeterD because he told administration to do something with topic? This is not good for anyone.

Peace my brothers ;---).

 
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11th May, 2007 at 16:08:17 -

@Nah, there wasn't much "anti" about that thread, it was just a parody but some people didn't notice that.

I didn't mean that one- that's just a minor joke to laugh about. I mean in general, anti-[country] threads are stupid.

The American Beauty one was funny though; it's often true.


And PeterD, shut up and... uh, pray, or something.

 
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11th May, 2007 at 16:44:16 -

Oh god, I was edited. I could be a blonde anything now.

 
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11th May, 2007 at 17:02:29 -

celt.

 
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11th May, 2007 at 17:31:23 -

"Since when are nazis in charge of the DC?"

Where the hell have you been? Like, forever dude.

 
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11th May, 2007 at 18:01:43 -

"LOL so I am a retard now for defending my country?"

That is not the reason why you were called a retard.


Also i laughed because you chose to write

"the most powerful country in the world"

 
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11th May, 2007 at 18:56:01 -

I’m sorry, Chris Street. But because I POST on a message board means that you have the right to delete my messages. See this is a message board and the idea of a message board is that people communicate- this is why it’s called a community. Now there happen to be threads like “the community is dying”- sure that will happen if nobody talks on the daily click at all. This is something Total Klik and other sites were often suffering from while TDC is sometimes active while other sites the site is pretty dead and hardly anybody posts on the board while I post on the board and I talk on it and other people will even reply. I don’t even spam the boards. See I create a flash movie or I make a drawing- I am PRODUCTIVE and I also find out about certain interesting things so there is a BIG difference between SPAMMING and just being the most active user on a pretty much dead forum. Somebody who is an awful spammer or rather a bumper is Mr. Dogzer. He makes his own threads and if they are at the very bottom of the page he will bump them while I move on and make new threads. I will say it again: The idea behind a community site is that people talk to each other- this is a place where you should feel at home but you are telling me “hey this is a message board so please don’t write messages on here”. Do you see how silly that is?

Probably I should have posted it on the TK because I can’t even find any difference between TK and TDC anymore. It’s such an irony. Over years Pod was always making fun of you, Chris Street. And now you have turned into a Podunkian as well. I can go to TK and get my comments and threads edited and deleted or I can go to TDC and get my comments and threads edited and deleted. Both moderators act like Nazis. The difference is just that Pod wants to be king of the Internets and you are just an uptight wuss.

I already knew you were the one who deleted my thread. It feels great to have power, doesn’t it? Like does it give you a boner if you know you are in charge, Nazi.


And the picture wasn’t INSULTUNG or anything at all. You cant blame ME just because you are too RETARDED for getting a joke. It didn’t have to do with American or anything at all. I have been to forums where most members are 14 years old yanks and they are retards but that’s because they are only 14- you aren’t 14 anymore so I’m actually expecting you to be a little bit smarter.

There is a movie called “American Beauty” – it just happens to have “America” in it’s title. I drew the girl of that movie just FAT- it was a joke. It wasn’t “OMG everybody is fat in the USA” and I never even said that so it wasn’t insulting ANYBODY.
And here is another one for you: It isn’t my fault you know 0 about ART, Mr. Double Outline.
If you would have studied art like I have you would have taken courses of nude drawing.
Yes I will say it again



courses of nude drawing


you will actually DRAW nude people and there is nothing wrong or bad about that. Even little kids can join. I mean for god’s sake- that’s how god made you. Naked. And you will draw naked people. There are also nude beaches for the whole FAMILY- so much about being a FAMILY SITE.
And now I just happen to have a CARTOON STYLE so I drew a NAKED cartoon lady.



So deleting my thread wasn’t about me insulting anybody or making anybody upset it was only about YOU being the most ignorant person on this planet towards art. You know NOTHING about art and just showed everybody how ignorant you are and how much knowledge you are lacking. Go and ask any teacher if drawing naked people in a cartoon style is inappropriate.

I’m pretty much aware of the fact that I’m ranting a lot but I am also making a point here. Its not like “wa wa wa Circy is an idiot” – I’m saying you had no actual reason to delete this thread and came up with a lame excuse that doesn’t apply at all. IF I WOULD HAVE BROKEN THE RULES OF THE DAILY CLICK I would have been fine with it but its simply because you don’t like me and you want to use your powers.




 
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11th May, 2007 at 19:19:55 -

It's true, a lot of the threads were his work or something he found interesting.

 
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12th May, 2007 at 04:45:12 -

The first one to call someone nazi in a discussion on the internet is the one losing. Sorry MasterM. Register to the Hooplanet forums, they will be happy to have your art.

If you're reading the rules, there's no mention of nudity at all

 
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"If you're reading the rules, there's no mention of nudity at all"

I suppose that is true, although one of the rules is to not post offensive content, of which nudity may fit into that category for some people. Either way, I think the rules are common sense. Although I do find it strange how when Phizzy was doing these things, people here where complaining to us saying we should ban him. Yet when someone else breaks the rules, we apparently don't have the right to delete their thread?

Maybe we should look into new ideas to get around these issues - maybe a forum for 16+ year olds? Or maybe an option to select whether a thread is possibly offensive, then a confirmation message could be displayed before anybody views that thread? I don't know - give your suggestions.

Either way, I have no doubt at all that the thread broke the rules and that the admins did have the right to delete it.

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12th May, 2007 at 05:57:22 -

"Give your suggestions"

You stole my suggestion :*(
But I do think there has to be a way to sort this out. We've got little 13 year old nippers running around here, and of course the old folk. One could argue that they should go to the TK, but you'd only end up with babyfied text, sort of defeating the purpose of hard discussion.

People wanted Phizzy out because he was a knob head. MasterM doesn't insult all and has talent when it comes to art. And like any self-respecting mainland European causes up a stir with his art.

 
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12th May, 2007 at 06:19:30 -

Ok, how about a new rule?

Nudity allowed in the digital arts forum under the condition that it's mentioned in the topic title. Like this:

American Beauty (Nudity)

 
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12th May, 2007 at 06:28:34 -

People offended by cartoon boobs are not very likely to ever be able to start a family and don't belong on a family site. Also comparing MasterM to Phizzy is whack, Phizzy was a pain in the ass to many people (I like him tho), MasterM has been part of this community longer than half of the admins here.

 
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Oh no no, I was definately not comparing him to Phizzy
MasterM is a nice guy, and I can see that he meant no harm by posting that thread. We just need a way to resolve this in the future - whether it means warning people of offensive content, or deleting offensive content. At the moment, most offensive content is to be deleted, but obviously some of you don't like that idea. So I'll have a word with the other admins, and see whether a solution can be thought of.

I have seen other sites, such as YouTube, have a warning message regarding offensive content - which people have to confirm whether they are 18+. I think it could be a bit over the top of this site, but I don't know - like I said, give your ideas. The last thing we want is flame wars and arguments and things..

 
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12th May, 2007 at 06:42:29 -

The title of the thread was American Beauty (NSFW), although some people might not understand that the NSFW part is a warning.

 
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12th May, 2007 at 08:38:51 -

MasterM, please read this VERY carefully:

Having read your long tirade towards me, I would maybe have agreed with your points and understood your anger and frustration. If it were for just one tiny problem.

I DID NOT DELETE YOUR THREAD.

Maybe now you'd like to take back those insults and unpleasant comments, seeing as they are totally unjustified?

Oh, and I don't dislike you either, in fact, I've never really had a problem with you.

 
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12th May, 2007 at 08:57:00 -

MasterM, now you've really made a fool of yourself Calling Circy retarded for something he didn't do...

 
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12th May, 2007 at 09:22:44 -

Are you going to make such offensive content legal on this site? This is insane!
:---(.

"The last thing we want is flame wars and arguments and things.."
@Flava: Administration - that's right, users - no. That's why such thread has been started :---).

 
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12th May, 2007 at 09:23:33 -

Stop being mean about me. I'm nice. Reported thread, that's you, Flava, Hayo, Jay.

 

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12th May, 2007 at 10:06:15 -

Ignored reported thread. You're supposed to be banned anyway.

 
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@I have been to forums where most members are 14 years old yanks and they are retards but that’s because they are only 14- you aren’t 14 anymore so I’m actually expecting you to be a little bit smarter.

Yay, let's assume that every American that is fourteen years old is retarded and amke ourselves look intelligent with run on sentences!

I agree with you that deleting your American Beauty thread was not the brightest idea, but you don't have to be so rude about it. The people who got 'offended; by it are the pretentious bastards who want to look like caring people.


if you are talking about youre anti USA treads get over it i requested them to be deleated cuz bashing the most powerful country in the world is pretty lame.

Ok. On to you, Mr. Conservative catholic American guy. "Most powerful country in the world", eh? Guh, no. Perhaps in terms of firearms, but assholes that make up 67% of the population like George W. Bush completely birng down a country. Also, being the most powerful isn't good. That means more people will probably want to hurt us, since as Thomas Hobbes once said, "Humans in their natural state are vicous beasts who will kill to compete to be better than his fellow man". Betcha don't know anything about the Enlightenment, Mr. Peter.

Ok, I'm done. You seriously can't say the above paragraph was retarded.

 
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12th May, 2007 at 10:14:10 -

I'm a conservative Catholic caring guy. I grew a flower last weekend. I thought the thread was funny.

 
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He's fake, Bibin.



 
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'Ignored reported thread. You're supposed to be banned anyway.'

Circy supports bashing of entities supposedly unable to defend themselves, ie quadraplegics and animals. That's disgusting.

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"Maybe we should look into new ideas to get around these issues - maybe a forum for 16+ year olds? Or maybe an option to select whether a thread is possibly offensive, then a confirmation message could be displayed before anybody views that thread? I don't know - give your suggestions."

I suggest that in the future peterd's requests should be ignored.

 
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one is enough.

 
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12th May, 2007 at 13:05:24 -

Feh? Who was that above you Hayo?? It wasn't PeterD; he hasn't been deleted.

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13th May, 2007 at 10:15:59 -

I've seen the picture now, it's not offensive, it's hilarious

 
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Degrading into a flamewar.

 
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