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22nd August, 2007 at 17:11:01 -

Under what circumstances should it be switched on? It sounds pretty self explanatory but I never notice a difference when its on or off. What EXACTLY does it do?

 
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It skips frames when a computer can't handle things at 50 FPS. Some people say it's broken in MMF1.5, but I don't see how.

 
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Basically, when the player's machine can't keep up, it drops the framerate but not the speed of the game. That's what it does. So you might want to use it if you have a CPU-heavy game, but still want the game to run normally on slow computers, at the cost of some FPS.

 
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I see... Thanks for letting me know guys!

 
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23rd August, 2007 at 13:34:13 -

Machine Independent Speed is highly useful for something like an Online game, where you need to keep player positions and stuff, in-sync, regardless of the players computer speed. (Sorry, figured I'd add that in.)

 
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it doesnt look too good in scrolling games

 
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24th August, 2007 at 19:29:48 -

I tried it with one of my old games on a very shit computer years ago.

If you have a timer based jump (which isn't a good idea anyway)
a slow pc will have the character jump lower than it should if it can't handle the pace. (because it's not moved far enough in the set time given to it)

however with machine independent speed turned on the character always reached the peak of the jump in time.

 
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24th August, 2007 at 19:34:30 -

Yeah, adding to what Andy said, even a 0.1ms time can make a huge difference on slower computers.

A much better way to do it, set up a counter that's Always adding 1, then when it reaches 1, set it back to 0.
Now anytime that counter hits 0, will mark every other loop, so just use "Counter is 0"
Change the number it reaches, higher, and it will make the loop larger and take more time to complete it.

It's more reliable, but requires just a tad more work.

PS: If anyone else has any other ideas, by all means mention them. This is just the method I personally take.

 
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Originally Posted by Phizzy [Ectoprods]

I don't really understand why Brandon's talking about non-clock based time events for this though... If that was his attention at all...



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25th August, 2007 at 15:29:48 -

If your always adding 1 to the counter, then setting it back to 0 when it reaches 1, then it's going to fire an event every other frame, which would be similar to the every 0.1 millisecond event.

Now if you change it back to 0 every time it reaches 5 rather then 0, it's going to take a little bit longer to reach 5, because it has to look 5 more times before it goes back to 0 and triggers the event.
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Originally Posted by BrandonC
If your always adding 1 to the counter, then setting it back to 0 when it reaches 1, then it's going to fire an event every other frame, which would be similar to the every 0.1 millisecond event.


1 frame = 1/50th of a second = 20 milliseconds
Every other frame = 2/50th of a second = 40 milliseconds

You can't use 10 millisecond / 0.01 second events unless you set the frame rate to 100.

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25th August, 2007 at 17:49:39 -

The amount of time in milliseconds really isn't important in this case, we're just trying to avoid the in-game timer from jumping ahead of the game, because the game is moving slower. The idea is to make all the timers slow down at the same rate of the game, by making them rely on a constant loop in the game, as opposed to outside.

System time will not slow down, so it will desync when the game slows down. We all already know that. I'm just posting my personal solution to the issue, regardless if my math isn't exactly correct.

Edit: If you have a game running at 100fps on your computer, but that game slows down to 50fps on someone elses computer. The amount of time 1 loop takes to complete in milliseconds, is completely pointless to keep track of, because the goal is to avoid</> the actual time, and make the game more relied on a constant loop that actually slows down with the game.

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