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AndyUK

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8th September, 2007 at 09:01:55 -

I just want to ask, or plead.

Please don't force us to make our games all xmassy and stuff. The xmas competition can simply be making a game at christmas time.

I'm fed up with competitions that make up rules for the hell of it and then tell me 'it's there to help creativity' or whatever. It hinders creativity if we are forced to think up everything from day one. Or include something that is announced the day before.

Think about it. If you let people do what they want you'll end up with better games in the end. People can easily shoehorn a given plot into a game they're making anyway. Take that mario fangame and put Santa in his place and there you go!

Surely there is a way to make sure people started their game on the first day without stifling creativity.

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8th September, 2007 at 09:04:11 -

I demand RPG theme!

Well.. to do that you'd probably have to start it now

 
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8th September, 2007 at 09:27:03 -

I only took part in last years xmas compo but can imagine that if its done EVERY year with a forced xmas theme, people may start to get bored. How about picking a different event each year? Though I suppose that only really leaves Easter and Halloween.

Dunno, I'm stumpped.

 
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8th September, 2007 at 13:25:30 -

I disagree on your take on the concept, AndyUK.
I believe that restrictions generally inspire more creative thought. Whether it's just a matter of a new concept that one might never have thought of without the idea of a competition's concept, or the fact that a restriction will force one to throw out his immediate ideas and preconceptions and start digging into deeper thoughts or previously unthought-of workarounds, such restrictions, to me, seem more to shake up the creative process rather than stifle it.

...But the X-Mas theme does get a little old after a few years.
I'm not exactly sure how to appropriately make an X-Mas competition without the theme, but I guess that's something to think about.

 
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8th September, 2007 at 13:54:22 -

I agree. When you're within limits you try to get as much out of it as possible, as for dropping the xmas theme... it's Xmas.

 
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8th September, 2007 at 14:09:21 -

It seems a bit depressing that you don't want a Christmas themed game, but the admins will be discussing ideas.

 
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8th September, 2007 at 14:20:45 -

Lol, I was thinking about the same thing some time ago. "If this year's compo is gonna be Xmas again, I'll probably not enter" is what I was thinking lately. I agree on AndyUK on the fact that the Xmas theme really hinders my creativity

Though, I really like it when a good theme comes up. E.g. last year's grid based was great IMO, but I really don't like it when it always has to be Xmas themed as well Even though the competition is around Xmas, can't we simply make it a Winter Compo or something?

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8th September, 2007 at 14:32:35 -

Well, you could always try some other variations...

Like, you could try winter-themed instead of Christmas, specifically.
You could try to deter the more common themes by forbidding standard character use (like Santa and elves), forcing use of other characters, or animals, or even toys.
Or you could try something more abstract, like simply requiring heavy use of the colors green and red, as well as their integration into the gameplay.

...And I'm sure there are plenty of other good ideas yet to be thought that could keep the competition in the sort of Christmas feel without the relying on the ol' Christmas theme.

 
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8th September, 2007 at 14:34:55 -

I'ma liking the sound of that. Winter themed, not Christmas

 
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8th September, 2007 at 15:02:34 -

Maybe you should make it so the main character is anti-Christmas - kind of a subversive thing.

 
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8th September, 2007 at 16:46:10 -

We had a winter-themed compo in 2002 or 2003 which was fun. I think the xmas theme is pretty cheesy to begin with and it's unfair to people who don't have xmas. I also think the next compo needs a different judging system (not just the admins judging, last years compo results were just wacky).

 
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8th September, 2007 at 18:12:05 -

Also it might not be a bad idea to have the compo end in early december so they can be judged and ready for public play in actual Xmas/winter. We always end up seeing the games in february/march.

 
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8th September, 2007 at 19:05:23 -

Christmas should be banned anyway.

 
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8th September, 2007 at 19:22:16 -

Let's have the easter comp a teeny bit early

 
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8th September, 2007 at 19:26:08 -

There has to be some restrictions. Its a competition after all. You are supposed to find the best ways to complete the different goals within the restrictions that is set. This also helps protecting the competition against cheaters- you can't just submit the game that you've been working on for months, because it doesn't fit the criteria that is already set.

 
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8th September, 2007 at 23:01:32 -

Let's do a Kwanza compo this year! Nobody knows what Kwanza is about so it'll raise awareness and stuff! YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!

 
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8th September, 2007 at 23:31:51 -

I agree that a winter theme would be fun and also would allow folks to choose a holiday-theme (including Kwanzaa) or not, according to their preferences.

 
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9th September, 2007 at 01:14:10 -

Pretty tired of playing as Santa Clause to be honest.

Christmas isn't exactly a rich and vast theme that sparks the imagination. It guarantees there will be red, green, snow, presents, and most often Jolly Ol' Saint Nick!

WAR ON CHRISTMAS!

IT MUST BE CALLED THE HOLIDAYS COMPETITION!

 
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9th September, 2007 at 01:56:34 -

I thought Merry Gear Santa was a very fun, creative and non-cheesy game.

 
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9th September, 2007 at 05:38:40 -

Also try to get more prizes then MMF, as most of us have MMF already ( I want graphic gale )

 
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9th September, 2007 at 11:19:58 -

I think the prizes were very good last year.

 
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9th September, 2007 at 12:26:56 -

I think that christmassness shouldn't be part of the judging, but maybe 5 bonus points will be obtainable by theme?

 
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9th September, 2007 at 13:26:45 -


Originally Posted by Villy
Also try to get more prizes then MMF, as most of us have MMF already ( I want graphic gale )


There are already several prizes a year, and the alternative of winning money instead of MMF2. I say we keep MMF2 in the prizes because I'll be aiming to get it this year!

 
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