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22nd November, 2007 at 04:01:32 -

I don't know how many of you who are interested in soccer/football but England just missed the EC2008 in Switzerland/Austria which I find a bit funny.
Personally I think England's team have been shit for a long time but the funny thing is that they often come across thinking that they are among the best teams in the world. Don't get me wrong they have great players but they never seem to manage to play together as a team.

Sweden's team is pretty shitty aswell but we usually make it anyway and do pretty good for being such a small country.

Football is such a big sport over there it would be fun if anyone who lives there could post an input of what people are saying/reading about it over there.

 
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22nd November, 2007 at 06:17:26 -

Ah, you're correct, when it comes to football we suck compared to some of the other countries in the world.

It was a case of inevitability really. Even if England made it to Euro 2008, we would have lost anyway and riots would have taken place across the UK... as in the case of when Portugal beat England, so the English did us proud by attacking a Portugese-run pub in Essex with a 300 strong mob.

How great we are.

 
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22nd November, 2007 at 07:04:03 -

I absolutely hate football, grown men being paid thousands and in some case millions to play a game, when there's doctors and people in other more difficult and NEEDED professions being paid so much less. I wonder how many footballers were drop outs at school.

 
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Originally Posted by -Adama Claus-
I absolutely hate football, grown men being paid thousands and in some case millions to play a game, when there's doctors and people in other more difficult and NEEDED professions being paid so much less. I wonder how many footballers were drop outs at school.



I totally agree that they are overpaid as in alot of other sports.
Though in the drop out questions it's probably more like they practice football instead of attending college and so. Still it isn't easy to become an elite football player since there is alot of competition and they practice really hard so I still have som respect for them since they rarely get their whole carrer handed to them.

 
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22nd November, 2007 at 07:48:23 -

I completely agree Adam. Watching the news this morning some big football manager guy made it sound serious when they lost, using words usually assigned for more serious roles. Christ knows what he said now but I laughed a little.

 
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22nd November, 2007 at 07:51:12 -

I think it's sad how so many sports (Football mainly) have become so serious, with overly devoted fans.

 
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22nd November, 2007 at 08:04:45 -

I don't mind playing sports for fun, but the over comercialisation of them has just taken the fun right out of it.

I don't think it's fair that footballers get payed tens of thousands of pounds a week for an hour and a half of playing, along with a bit of training.

They are over-payed and over-glorified.

All-in-all, they should be payed (at most) £1000 per week.

They do not need the lifestyle they lead, with 5 expensive sports cars each, and 3 or 4 £1 million houses.

Also, lol England.

 
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22nd November, 2007 at 08:27:47 -

Indeed. Lol England.

When Beckham and friends used to live in England (or did Scholes stop playing for England?) You'd see them speeding up the road like twunts in a different car each time. Utter knobstickles. They probably get paid so much to quash driving tickets. And cocaine or something.

 
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22nd November, 2007 at 08:31:07 -

Hahahah, well, the England manager, Steve McLaren, has been sacked now.

Good times.

 
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Originally Posted by Chris Street
Hahahah, well, the England manager, Steve McLaren, has been sacked now.

Good times.



Hehe they always sack the manager. I mean they need to realize that it's the players who are playing and they have had a whole lot of managers already. When are they gonna realize their team just isn't that good.

Also football is kinda like religion in the way that it's good it's there since some people really need it. Football can be fun since it can be used in so many social ways of gathering, be it watch it on tv/going to a match with friends or playing yourself. Then as usual someone comes along and screws it up by wanting to make as much money on it as possible or transforming it into something else which suits their intentions.





 
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22nd November, 2007 at 10:00:43 -

The Premiership is probably the best league in the world, and England do actually have some of the best players in the world (note I said 'some'). Yet, like in most sports, we have a knack of being woefully inadequate whenever it comes down to a 'big' match.

Steve McLaren did have a part in England losing, because he chose a crap formation (when half the country plays in 4-4-2, he chooses 4-5-1 in a match we needed to win?) and had some dodgy selection decisions. But ahh well, I stopped watching this match at half time and played Mario Kart instead...

 
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22nd November, 2007 at 10:09:22 -


Originally Posted by Jimbob
and played Mario Kart instead...



Which one?

 
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22nd November, 2007 at 10:44:05 -

Lol, check James, trying to change the thread subject cool.

 
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Originally Posted by -Adama Claus-
Lol, check James, trying to change the thread subject cool.



Stop changing the subject to James.

 
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22nd November, 2007 at 11:38:14 -

Ah Jimbob, you see, you're half right... we have some of the best imported players in the world in terms of club team members.

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Originally Posted by Mr SilverNova

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Lol, check James, trying to change the thread subject cool.



Stop changing the subject to James.



Stop changing the subject to changing the subject

 
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22nd November, 2007 at 12:50:18 -

The Gamecube one. I just got my Cube back after over a year absence with it (I had lent it to my friend when I left for my exchange year).

Tis true there are a lot of good players that aren't English in the Premiership. But it's not just the foreign players that set the bar high is it? The big thing is that club teams get to develop their teams over years. Our national side barely has a game or two together before the press gets on to someone having a bad game, or fans start booing people off the pitch.

All in all, football has got a bit ridiculous.

 
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22nd November, 2007 at 16:07:37 -

Everyone is too negative i feel.

It's like people feel we have a right to win simply because we're the home of football. Well i say that we are lucky to be one of the few teams that have won the world cup.

Lets see who else have won (going by memory)

Brazil = 5 times
Italy = 4 times
Germany = 3 times
Argentina = twice
Uruguay = twice
France = once
England = once

OK, thats 7 different countries ever. (and england didn't compete in some of the early competitions)

So big teams like Spain, Portugal and Holland have never won it.

No country outside of Europe and South America have ever won.

 
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Originally Posted by -Adama Claus-

Originally Posted by Mr SilverNova

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Lol, check James, trying to change the thread subject cool.



Stop changing the subject to James.



Stop changing the subject to changing the subject



Stop .... OH! *gives up*

 
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22nd November, 2007 at 17:16:08 -

Hey Tim, why are you going to Manchester?

 
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To see a friend, then to see 'The Hives' ... but mainly to see a friend who moved there

 
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22nd November, 2007 at 18:24:12 -

I hate football and everything about it. So I'm glad England missed their chance cos it'll mean when time comes for Euro 2008 people might shut up about it for once.

 
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22nd November, 2007 at 18:33:24 -

SEE! Asparagus Trevor is how a male should be, he drinks beer and hates football! Drinking beer and loving football =

 
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I don't drink beer Adam

 
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23rd November, 2007 at 10:01:45 -

Footballers are only paid an amount in proportion to the revenue of the club. If the fans didn't want to pay it, they wouldn't. How is over-commercialisation? It's just a business, same as the rest.

I love football - although some people say "Oh it's only a game", it clearly has grown into something more than that. Whole communities and nations are brought together in support of eleven athletes kicking a ball round a pitch - absurd I know, which is why I like it so much. Football is religion.

I'm not too fussed that we didn't get through. It will give us a kick up the arse. The team was the best in the group in terms of quality, but not in terms of togetherness or tactics. We need to look towards the continent (especially Holland and France) for how to manage and produce a good attacking national team.

 
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23rd November, 2007 at 10:25:02 -

Actually prices are driven up by players wages. Thats why some fans are now being priced out. We can see the games on tv much cheaper than actually going there.

Anyway i think steve mclaren was the wrong manager for england in the first place. He was their 3rd or 4th choice. Now they are talking about getting Jose mourinho in as manager. That will be fun. Well, So long as we do well.

 
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23rd November, 2007 at 14:30:08 -

So you're saying wages drive up prices? It doesn't work like that.

 
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23rd November, 2007 at 15:20:10 -

partly, i know a lot of a football club's income comes from advertising and sponsorship deals along with merchandise. Or in some cases private money.

 
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