Seeing how about 80% of klikers dislike games with installers, I was thinking that maybe we admins should include a tag that mentions whenever a game uses an installer. Would that be a good idea, or would it be discrimination?
(a nice side effect is that newbies will learn the lesson about installers quickly)
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So if 80% dislike them, what's the point of labeling them so they are basically useless (as about 80% wont look at them). People will judge the game before they've even played it (even more so than they already do)And some people may be missing out on a damn good game.
To be honest, I'm tired of all this "omg it has an installer" crap. Yes it takes about 20 seconds longer than clicking on an exe file, then 20 more uninstalling, but seriously it's not that big a deal, should the creator choose to use one
Or just let it alone. If you have a slow enough internet and a closed enough mind that you complain because you downloaded something that *gasp* opened an installer rather then game or zip file (cause you know, people are complaining about rar's now too), then maybe you should either upgrade to a less disappointing internet connection, or just not download.
Just saying. We've been fine for over a decade. Plus, blame Clickteam to a degree, for encouraging it. Not only did they make Install Maker, but they went one step farther and made Install Creator.
PS:
If the game is named:
Setup.exe
Game.exe or
Setup.zip
GameSetup.exe
If installers are that big of a deal, then what do you have a to lose by avoiding the above examples. Oh wait, a good game? Nah, it had an installer... who cares.
I installed a click game a few weeks ago and it didn't provide an uninstaller. Also it was not in the programs list or add/remove programs. It really just enraged me a lot. It's actually still on my machine as I can't be bothered searching in Program files for it. Forgot what the game was called now, too.
I don't think we should start kicking out installers, but a little warning would be nice. I'll admit that I'd probably not download the game though, unless it looked appealing to me... :$
Actually, I kinda stopped downloading klik games because I was bored of coming across an installer. I find installers about as annoying as MSG (in more ways than one) :/ And I've seen games where people comment "tell me if this game is worth playing, because I'm not going to install it if its not". I sometimes also mention to the guy who made it not to use installers anyway if he wants more people to download it.
It's not really that hard to add a tag that does it. Assuming the admins do their work and run the file they downloaded, they should pretty much know whether a game has an installer or not. And the klikers who insist that installers are professional could proudly show the "This game has an installer" tag.
But yeah, unless like 80% of TDC thinks it's a good idea, it won't happen. Hmm.. new general poll?
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I don't see the harm in installers if they are used correctly. If a game or application is coded imn such a way it requires an installer then yes by all means use one but if you are using one "just to make it look professional" then forget it.
There is a constant whining on this site about how everyone should conform to one system or another, Construct or MMf, Installers or Stand-alone. I thought this was a COMMUNITY not a dictatorship for God's Sake.
I for one will use installers where necessary to ensure the application i am making runs the way i intend it to. if you don't want to download it don't but don't whinge at me for doing so.
Maybe just include a radio button on the "Submit download" page that asks "Does this game have an installer? Yes/No". Then the admins wouldn't have to do any work, the people who hate installers wouldn't have to download them and the games comment pages wouldn't be full of comments about the installers.
Simple yes?
I'm personally not too bothered by them, but seeing how a load of clickers hate installers then I see no reason to hide the fact that your game has an installer.
Maybe include other radio buttons on the "Submit Download" page too, like "Is this a demo? Yes/No", "Is this game freeware/shareware" etc. Would certainly help people filter their searches better.
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