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Tonight! Will anyone else be watching? I'm a sucker for it and end up watching it every year. I am glad to see they finally changed the voting system a little- it will be interesting to see if the results still remain as political and biased like previous years gone by or if the new system actually works/helps.



 
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Gotta do some school project stuff, but I'll keep the TV on.

 
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Id quite like Malta to win it. Im doubting the UK will win it Norway's song is nice, but I hate the singer, so cocky

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I used to watch it every year, but It got even more boring in the recent years

 
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So it's an international American/Canadian Idol/America's/Britain's Got Talent?

 

  		
  		

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16th May, 2009 at 15:36:32 -

No it's just a song competition... lasts for one night Although there have been some semi finals to see which countries got to tonight's final.

 
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16th May, 2009 at 15:45:42 -


Originally Posted by Mr G
I used to watch it every year, but It got even more boring in the recent years



This wasn't bad in 07'



 
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Lol, wtf is that? I'm embarrassed to admit that the song is catchy, though

Heh, all the talent competitions seem to be thinning out every year. The talented ones get it right the first time, then you have all the 2nd rate ones reapplying the next few years. But if you're lucky some new, talented guy will sneak in this time. They don't show the European stuff here though

 
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that crap still exists ?
winning the eurovision contest has no real value whatsoever, it's more political driven than most would like to admit and the concept of the contest itself is rotten to the bone.

In any other kind of contest, the best contestant wins, but in this one nobody can't really say the "best" song won. Every one has it's own musical taste, and how are you supposed to get a fair result having so many genres mixed in a single contest ?

And why doesn't the uk enter with the arctic monkeys, finland with children of bodom, portugal with moonspell or georgia with katie melua, just to give some examples ? I mean they are way better and more popular than their countries's current contestants.

That contest is just broken and doesn't make any sense for me.

 
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16th May, 2009 at 16:35:30 -

I used to love it. But it kinda weird the past couple of years

 
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16th May, 2009 at 16:45:48 -


Originally Posted by Johnny Look
that crap still exists ?
winning the eurovision contest has no real value whatsoever, it's more political driven than most would like to admit and the concept of the contest itself is rotten to the bone.

In any other kind of contest, the best contestant wins, but in this one nobody can't really say the "best" song won. Every one has it's own musical taste, and how are you supposed to get a fair result having so many genres mixed in a single contest ?

And why doesn't the uk enter with the arctic monkeys, finland with children of bodom, portugal with moonspell or georgia with katie melua, just to give some examples ? I mean they are way better and more popular than their countries's current contestants.

That contest is just broken and doesn't make any sense for me.



Did you fail to read the part where I said the voting system had changed slightly? It's now 50% public vote and 50% expert judges from each country.

"And why doesn't the uk enter with the arctic monkeys"

Because they suck?

Another interesting entry from last year.


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That first vid was the most frighteningly entertaining in a bizarre way thing I've ever seen. O__O

 

  		
  		

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Originally Posted by -Adam-

Originally Posted by Johnny Look
that crap still exists ?
winning the eurovision contest has no real value whatsoever, it's more political driven than most would like to admit and the concept of the contest itself is rotten to the bone.

In any other kind of contest, the best contestant wins, but in this one nobody can't really say the "best" song won. Every one has it's own musical taste, and how are you supposed to get a fair result having so many genres mixed in a single contest ?

And why doesn't the uk enter with the arctic monkeys, finland with children of bodom, portugal with moonspell or georgia with katie melua, just to give some examples ? I mean they are way better and more popular than their countries's current contestants.

That contest is just broken and doesn't make any sense for me.



Did you fail to read the part where I said the voting system had changed slightly? It's now 50% public vote and 50% expert judges from each country.

"And why doesn't the uk enter with the arctic monkeys"

Because they suck ?



I did read that part and as astounding as it sounds it doesn't change a thing, other than make the contest lose it's identity even more and make it look like the international version of American/pop Idol.

And without even looking at whoever entered this year, I'm pretty sure the arctic monkeys have more fans than the uk's 5 or 6 previous entries combined. And in case you didn't get it, I mentioned the arctic monkeys like I could have mentioned the police, radiohead, muse or iron maiden for example.

 
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16th May, 2009 at 17:56:00 -

I just love ESC - one of the greatest form of entertainment! I watch it every year. The music is horrible, who cares, it's a good show.

The main problem with Eurovision song contest is that some people simply take it too seriously.

The idea is not come up with the best song musically, lyrically or in any other way. It's about getting the most votes from European voters, and it's fun to see what sort of a performance gets people voting. If there's 10 ballads in the final, you simply cannot win with a ballad. If there's 10 heavy metal songs, no way. You got to differentiate enough to catch people's attention. Who can differentiate with "tolerable quality", wins. You could win even with silence (if the rules would accept it), it's an interesting concept.

 
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Originally Posted by Johnny Look

In any other kind of contest, the best contestant wins, but in this one nobody can't really say the "best" song won. Every one has it's own musical taste, and how are you supposed to get a fair result having so many genres mixed in a single contest ?



Exactly. Regardless of who is judging it you're still comparing musical tastes.
My respect for music is why I don't watch Eurovision.

 
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16th May, 2009 at 18:42:36 -

IMHO I really just don't like any of those songs.

Machinae Supremacy, Foo Fighters, AAR, Police, BÍC, Celldweller... that's what I like.

 
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16th May, 2009 at 18:49:51 -

You don't like all 2 examples.

 
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16th May, 2009 at 19:28:34 -

No, I really just do not.

 
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16th May, 2009 at 19:56:53 -

I've missed it the last few years due to not actually being in Europe at the time, so it's very exciting for me

It won't be the same without Wogan though. That Paddy guy was just crap on the semi-finals, and while I generally don't like Graham Norton, I think he could be good for Eurovision.

How come the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia didn't get through? They were heaps better than the UK entry - she really cannot sing to save her life. It's like she thinks sheer volume somehow makes up for being completely out of tune.

I'm gonna tip Sweden, due to the fact that she can sing (or at least make some weird high pitched scream) in tune, or maybe Iceland, who is the only piece of female eye-candy in the whole comp.

Anyway - let's just hope UK don't win. I think there are more constructive uses of taxpayers' (ie. my) money than hosting Eurovision. Like maintaining MP's moats etc....
Plus she can't sing for shit, like I said already.



 
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16th May, 2009 at 20:41:28 -

Eurovision is for repressed homosexuals, Germanic cannibals and sex fetishists. I love it!

 
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Originally Posted by Robert Rule
Eurovision is for repressed homosexuals, Germanic cannibals and sex fetishists. I love it!



Because you're all three of those rolled into one?

Well... it was still political yet the UK managed to reach the top 5, which is a vast improvement considering we came last in 2008, and Norway won which was nice.

Turkey and Azerbaijan somehow came in the top 5, god knows how, they sucked.

 
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Because you're all three of those rolled into one?



I can excuse your missing-the-joke, but must you nibble on my arm like that?

 
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I think Robert's a cool person and awesome admin rolled in one!

 
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16th May, 2009 at 23:53:00 -

Back on topic please.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurovision_2009#Final

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Originally Posted by ωξяξW○○F
I think Robert's a cool person and awesome admin rolled in one!



Mum?

 
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Lol no, I just think you're a cool guy. And for some reason you looked like you'd be a good admin before you even where one. It's just me, I guess.

 
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Originally Posted by ωξяξW○○F
Lol no, I just think you're a cool guy. And for some reason you looked like you'd be a good admin before you even where one. It's just me, I guess.


Not just you, no

 
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I saw Lloyd Webber being his usual reptilian self on Jonathan Ross a couple of Friday's ago, he was incredibly touchy-feely with his latest prodigy Jade Ewen, in a kind of sinister uncle way.


 
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17th May, 2009 at 00:22:29 -

What a surprise, Sweden didn't score well.

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17th May, 2009 at 13:25:59 -

This is weird but Russia's entry is somehow growing on me



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Originally Posted by -Adam-
This is weird but Russia's entry is somehow growing on me


ReallY?!? I find it hard to enjoy non English songs.

 
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17th May, 2009 at 13:55:53 -

I do with some, but like with the Polysics (japanese band) I tend to sometimes enjoy the melodies and don't care what the words mean.

 
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Originally Posted by -Adam-
I do with some, but like with the Polysics (japanese band) I tend to sometimes enjoy the melodies and don't care what the words mean.


Oh that techno video of those japanese people? I liked that.

 
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In my opinion all of the songs at Eurovision sucked. There's hardly anything original with the songs...

And the voting thing is a another thing...

 
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Originally Posted by Mr G
In my opinion all of the songs at Eurovision sucked. There's hardly anything original with the songs...

And the voting thing is a another thing...



Norway's was quite original I thought.

 
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Ramstein.... ain't got a clue what they sing about, but love their songs!

 
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24th May, 2009 at 23:15:28 -

That one was pretty good- I just wish I knew what she was saying!

 
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Originally Posted by Mark Radon
Ramstein.... ain't got a clue what they sing about, but love their songs!



Lol, I love Rammstein. Sounds like black metal, but the lyrics can be quite poetic.

 
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