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This may be a bit too similar to what we have now but I had the idea to hold a competition that would have the participants crated sequels to NES and SNES games using graphics from the original game but using different sounds and music. (Remixed songs from the game would be fine). The game would be graded on how close the gameplay is to the original gameplay. As well as what interesting new features could be added to make the game more interesting (online scoreboard perhaps?).

Tell me if you guys think this is an interesting idea, though I won't be able to hold the competition for about fours weeks starting next week as I have a lot of summer activities. More criteria for entries will be supplied when I have enough interesting volunteers. This competition won't be a long one, about a week or so, just to give you guys a fun break from your current projects.

I was thinking of remaking Bad Dudes to show an example of what the game should be like.

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16th June, 2010 at 04:58:15 -

Duck Hunt sequel ftw.

 
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16th June, 2010 at 08:28:12 -

I'd like to make new graphics.

 
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16th June, 2010 at 10:22:03 -

I would totally try to make a Mega Man game. Or possibly a Sonic game since there's a really impressive Sonic engine for MMF2 floating around.

Thing is, while fangames are quite common, a contest like this would have to make sure that we don't get some kind of cease-and-desist order for ripping sprites and such. If that's a legitimate concern, then maybe we could instead make games that are spiritual successors to retro titles (i.e. share pretty much identical gameplay mechanics, but have completely different graphics, characters, etc).

 

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16th June, 2010 at 12:22:12 -


Originally Posted by Strife
(i.e. share pretty much identical gameplay mechanics, but have completely different graphics, characters, etc).



If you're gonna do this, do this. That way most of the work is unique. Unique work is more fun!

 

  		
  		

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16th June, 2010 at 15:51:45 -

Yeah I think you guys may be right, the same gameplay yet different graphics and sounds.

Maybe we could put those rip off mario graphics that came with MMF somewhere to good use.


 
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16th June, 2010 at 16:23:08 -

Aye. But just so that it doesn't become a generic retro game contest, perhaps the participants would be required to do a side-by-side comparison of the game they mimicked and the game they created. Massive bonus points if it's really hard to determine whether or not the new game is a hack of the retro one.

 

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16th June, 2010 at 20:06:37 -

I have started work on an example to show you all, it's going to have some obvious influences from Mario but I will have changed it enough to make it my own game. I might have to upload a video demonstration or a small group of levels.

 
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16th June, 2010 at 20:08:51 -

Sounds good - i'm already thinking about the game i might imitate!

 
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17th June, 2010 at 01:20:59 -

I can't help but think people would need more time to do something like this.

 
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Hmm... How about instead of making just a sequel to an already well-done retro game, why don't we choose a really, really bad video game (from any system, even DOS or old Windows) that's at least 10 years old, and try to make a surprisingly improved sequel or remake of it?

In this case, there would really only be two general rules. Firstly, you'd have to have some kind of proof that the game received below-average reviews when it was released. Secondly, you'd have to stick to the theme and source material of the original game as closely as possible (i.e. no changing a medieval game into something sci-fi, or changing the main character from a human into a chicken or something.)

 

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18th June, 2010 at 03:45:59 -

Man, you keep pumping out good ideas Strife, I think that one about the remaking a bad game is the best, adn I think we'll have to stick with that.

 
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18th June, 2010 at 23:40:36 -

I'm with Strife - excellent idea!!

 
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If this is going to happen, would someone please do The Adventures of Micro Man?

 
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19th June, 2010 at 04:02:12 -

But that actually looks like a fun game, but I'm probably mistaken.

 
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19th June, 2010 at 04:03:58 -

Do we get to choose what games we think are terrible? Actually come to think of it people could easily lie in order to do a remake of something they like.

 
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Actually, now that I think about it, I'd imagine that some issues might arise about whether or not a chosen game is "bad." So I think that as long as the sequel you create for it is better than the original in every way, then it's okay, even if the original game was actually good.

What we could probably do is judge games based on "gap" between how bad the original was and how good the remake is. So a Mega Man X fangame that actually turns out a little better than the original would receive a lower score than someone who remade E.T. for the NES into something that's actually playable and really fun.

So for bad games, your mission is to make them good. For good games, your mission is to make them AWESOME.

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If this is going to happen, would someone please do The Adventures of Micro Man?



Dude... Whoa.... I totally remember that game... I had it on my old computer, it sucked! And I had some Spork the Dork or something that came with it, and a PacMan rip off called MacMan...

I'm game for this compo I think perhaps we should just grade it on how good the click game is period, and then have extra points for the comparrison stuff.

 
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27th July, 2010 at 03:43:42 -

alright... here's my two bits.

I think that sounds/music should be totally free-form.
and graphics/coding need to be completely original.
however,at least around 80% of characters, power-ups, enemies, etc.
should be from the original game.(their concepts, not their sprites)

what do you think? I think that's good.

 
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27th July, 2010 at 04:29:59 -

I think this competition sounds awesome, either way, I really want to do an exitebike remake.

 
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Originally Posted by -MacAdaM-
I think this competition sounds awesome, either way, I really want to do an exitebike remake.



Go ahead! I'd love to see it!

 

  		
  		

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27th July, 2010 at 14:49:29 -

You're a month too late, I think this thread died back then.

 
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27th July, 2010 at 21:39:46 -

NOooOOoo! Bring it back to life! It's a great idea for a competition

 
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29th July, 2010 at 16:50:20 -

It's a shame seeing such good competition ideas fade away. Although to be honest creating a complete sequel in a short space of time might be just too much to ask.

 
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29th July, 2010 at 20:22:42 -

It's not that the idea and competition died, it's just that I thought of the idea during a time in the summer when I had little time to do something about it. I would love if someone started this competition, I would do so, but I would really like to enter, not be a judge.

 
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29th July, 2010 at 22:09:06 -

Haha I had the same feelings towards a competition idea I had a while back. But then again, why does it have to be a competition? If it's inspires people to make something and they enjoy doing it can't that be enough?

 
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29th July, 2010 at 23:59:28 -


Originally Posted by AndyUK
Haha I had the same feelings towards a competition idea I had a while back. But then again, why does it have to be a competition? If it's inspires people to make something and they enjoy doing it can't that be enough?



because 'fan games' are VERY frowned upon in this community.

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30th July, 2010 at 00:11:16 -

Bad fan games are frowned upon. As are any bad games, really.

I'd love to see more good fangames! If they faithfully recreate the experience and maybe add something extra.

 

  		
  		

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30th July, 2010 at 01:40:26 -

I agree with AndyUK, you should make games to make yourself happy. Sometimes I haven't made a game because this community frowns upon using ripped sprites and or making fangames.

 
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17th August, 2010 at 01:40:52 -

hey, why use Ripped sprites when you could ask around and find some desperate sprite artist to make custom stuff for ya?
as for fangames, i'd say they're only frowned upon because (like you all said) all the fangames on TDC are totall failures.
I'm all for GOOD fangames though.

@MaCAdaM I think your MegaMan Avatar is cool...

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