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Don Luciano

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25th November, 2010 at 20:22:01 -

I dont really care, honestly i think that people should be free to express themselves as they want to. I think this is just centered on gamester cause he is trying to prove a point from an earlier post when he said this site is run by nazis and got a warning. Obviusly hes not very good at proving points. So it doesnt really bother me. I do find it funny a bit. Cause saying that this site is run by nazis is a joke, not a reason to give warnings in my opinion.

Although i can understand that its probably offensive to some people he having that avatar, i really liked the retarded tree one.

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25th November, 2010 at 23:18:04 -


Originally Posted by Don Luciano
I dont really care, honestly i think that people should be free to express themselves as they want to. I think this is just centered on gamester cause he is trying to prove a point from an earlier post when he said this site is run by nazis and got a warning. Obviusly hes not very good at proving points. So it doesnt really bother me. I do find it funny a bit. Cause saying that this site is run by nazis is a joke, not a reason to give warnings in my opinion.

Although i can understand that its probably offensive to some people he having that avatar, i really liked the retarded tree one.



I find it to be more and more common for people(especially on the interwebz) to stop caring about ethics and being polite. I would be truly ashamed if I had written that, cause I just can't side with the person that deliberately tries to cause negative feelings in others.

I personally wish GamesterXIII would either 1) start being a nice person towards others (in all forum aspects, not just coding issues), or 2) just leave this site since all he is doing is being disruptive and complaining about being here.

All other bitter, angry or allround obnoxious people can do the same.
Like you Don Luciano, why do you even post that? You say you don't care. But if you don't, why should you be a part of a community when you don't even have the energy to care about how one interacts with another? Just seems stupid in my eyes. I don't remember you being that way.

And HorrendousGames, why did you write your post? Is that truly your opinion? (not counting the miss in facts)
It's obvious that you have built up a touch of bitternes due to the circumstances in your life, and no one blames you. But isn't it better to try and be as good a person as you can be here, instead of following the urge to revolt?

I'm so utterly sick of people who crash in on this site, trying to wreck everything that a lot of people have tried to keep nice and open for so many years.

@GamesterXIII: Why do you do it? What is your point? Stop acting so damn plain stupid.

 
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Don Luciano

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26th November, 2010 at 01:24:24 -

I think you got this a bit wrong, i do care what people say or do when it comes to things like this, and i consider myself to be quite polite if needed, which is maybe not so often. But anyway i dont see why you are so pissed off at this? I was mainly stating that gamester probably didnt intend to actively harm anyone here, and i give some information about ww2. I can clearly see that you are offended by hitler and nazis, with which i agreed it s probably offensive to a lot of people. And then you are mentioning ethics and politeness, but you have insulted me, horrendus and gamester with your post. And that's not cool.

 
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26th November, 2010 at 05:01:32 -

I have to say, it was kind of out of line to just up and call me an idiot like that. As far as my point goes, it makes no sense on getting offended by silly things. I did not miss the facts, I just did not elaborate on them. They did change the symbol, but before it came to symbolize what people believe it to symbolize, it still held the same meaning. It's kind of like slang. Though a new word will arise, it holds the same meaning of another word, especially when that particular slang is a simple distortion of the previous word i.e. "cool" and "coo". To most people, yeah the swastika does symbolize Hitler's ideals, but it's obvious that he isn't using it to promote Hitler's ideals. If he were, like I said that would be a different case.

But all of that aside, it doesn't matter, because the Swastika didn't kill anyone, it's merely an symbol and could mean anything. If I were to post an American flag on my avatar, would you immediately assume that I'm a fat pro-war Christian republican bigot, like a good amount of people parading around with the American flag are? Maybe I'm a just as crazy liberal. Maybe I just think it looks rad. You can't assume just because someone has something with a swastika on it that they are a Nazi. I think George Carlin said it best when he threw in "I'll leave symbols to the symbol minded."

I don't know why you decided to attack me, I wasn't insulting anyone in my post. I don't believe in just hating on anyone just because they stick their foot in their mouths sometimes, so I wasn't about to let people just jump on him Gamester for just that.

@Sketchy, you have a great point, although I'm not talking about being offensive, I'm talking about being offended. You're absolutely correct about him trying to be offensive, although my point was should you be offended by it?


 
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26th November, 2010 at 14:01:33 -

Successful troll is successful.

 
- Ok, you must admit that was the most creative cussing this site have ever seen -

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27th November, 2010 at 01:15:39 -

@Horrendous and Don

It's interesting that both of you feel attacked. Read my post again and you will see it isn't an attack. I asked you why you posted those posts, then I said that I remember Don behaving differently on previous occasions, after that I asked why H felt the urge to revolt.

But skip that.

I'll call you two idiots in this reply instead.
You two are idiots.
Idiots.

@Don
In what way (other than coming to the conclusion that GamesterXIII is actually as retarded as he puts himself out to be, and didn't actually know that that EXACT image is from the nazi party flag?) do you mean G isn't trying to "actively harm anyone here"?
Actually, to make it more simple for you, give me ONE legit reason(and do remember that this site and issue doesn't involve historical research or journalism) to use the nazi flag as your avatar.

@H
Obviously you aren't that familiar with deeper studies in symbols, ideology, religion, culture, history or ethics.
I do not assume that "just because someone has something with a swastika on it that they are a Nazi".
But when someone who has made it his business to jerk with people experiments with one of the most volatile symbols in history just for kicks, I DO believe that he deserves to be put against the wall and explain himself.


I had a wall of text here but realized that it would be blatant and stupid to argue further. So in response to the inevitable "hey man, what U on about"-replies I politely answer: Whatever.

Now I'm a lot more interested in what G has to say, since he is the star of our drama.

 
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27th November, 2010 at 01:31:34 -

But you're calling us idiots. That's a personal attack that has nothing to do with anything. I never felt like I was attacked until you decided to throw that I look like an idiot for my opinion, and regardless of Gamesters weak definition of an opinion, that was an opinion. I know for a fact that I'm not an idiot. Just because you don't happen to agree with me, that doesn't make me an idiot.

Great that you didn't assume that he was a Nazi, I'm not talking about that. My posts were geared towards the people who are putting him on the same level as the people that committed those acts.

If you don't want a symbol to have any power, don't give it any power. If Gamester is doing it just to get some attention, you're doing just that.

 
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27th November, 2010 at 01:49:34 -

Seriously, guys? Seriously. This is inane. Talk about something useful.

 

  		
  		

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27th November, 2010 at 01:50:58 -

Holy carp! I think you guys are delving a little to far into this.


Originally Posted by Don Luciano
I dont really care, honestly i think that people should be free to express themselves as they want to. I think this is just centered on gamester cause he is trying to prove a point from an earlier post when he said this site is run by nazis and got a warning. Obviusly hes not very good at proving points. So it doesnt really bother me. I do find it funny a bit. Cause saying that this site is run by nazis is a joke, not a reason to give warnings in my opinion.

Although i can understand that its probably offensive to some people he having that avatar, i really liked the retarded tree one.



Heh. I'm not really trying to prove a point as much as testing a particular persons patience . It isn't directed at anyone in this thread at all - tbqh.

There is your truth.

I actually plan on changing the avatar soon. I'm not sure what it is going to become,but I'm just feeling lazy right now.





 
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27th November, 2010 at 02:17:31 -

@Horrendeous
Read my last post again.

@GamesterXIII (and all who think myself and other "haters" are being unfair to G)

(This is taken from The Daily Click Rules( http://www.create-games.com/forum_post.asp?id=184320 ), though I seriously doubt you've read them)

"General Behaviour

The Daily Click forum is a free service provided by the administration. Abuse of this service may result in severe penalties including profile removal and/or a permanent ban, according to the rules specified below.

[...]
5. Posts should not contain hateful, racially or ethnically offensive content. This will result in the post being removed. In extreme cases, or when this rule is consistently broken, your profile will be removed, and a permanent ban will be enforced at the administrators discretion.
[...]"

Why do you believe that this doesn't apply to you?
And why doesn't any admin step in and enforce this rule?

Said it before and I'll say it again, sucks to be you.



 
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27th November, 2010 at 04:16:07 -

Cool story, bro. .

 
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Don Luciano

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27th November, 2010 at 10:45:03 -

I don't even want to respond to that.

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HorrendousGames

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27th November, 2010 at 18:41:25 -

This is going nowhere, you've failed to explain how I'm an idiot other than you don't agree with my opinion and didn't like that I did not elaborate on my history. Can you please get past that and actually add something to the conversation other than "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA, I DON'T HEAR YOU, LA LA LA LA LA LA LA".

Once again, I don't think that should apply in this situation because people should stop considering it offensive. Without any of the nonsensical rhetoric that usually comes with the symbol, IT MEANS NOTHING. If Gamester shows himself to be a racially insensitive hate monger, it might have some meaning behind it, so if he is, please show me where.

 
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27th November, 2010 at 21:57:35 -

I feel sorry for anyone who takes gamesterxii seriously.
He wanted the attention, he got the attention. People who give him his two minutes of fame are as guilty as the troll himself.

btw I think it's about time he gets a ban, or at least gets silenced for a while.
And I'm not even talking about the nazi symbols, but his provocative behavior spawned quite a few needless discussions in the last weeks.

Adam was silenced for much less, I think.

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27th November, 2010 at 22:51:09 -

In this setting, the swastika serves no purpose but to stir up these age-old arguments. If you choose to have this be your avatar, you will be asked to remove it unless you'd like to receive a warning. It's there to cause trouble and simply does not need to be present.

This thread has completed its purpose, so I'm locking it now. Got a problem with it, then DC Mail me or another admin.

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