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Zethell

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16th December, 2010 at 07:32:19 -

I use the bricks in the very same manner that i'v always had, the "testing area" on the sprite sheet is only for testing, to make sure that the stairs loop.

No matter what you do, some text colors, with small text, will ALWAYS be hard to read on certain surfaces.

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- "..Foreground objects *must* stand out.."
- "..The player sprite must stand out.."
- "..Enemies must stand out.."

What if in my style, the foreground, players and enemies.. are more artistical?
What if, my style just doesnt work that way?

I dont believe that anything *must* stand out, i think it can all still be merged and very beautiful, instead of enemies sticking out like a sore thumb with either black outlining or some other crap.

If i made a game, i'd like it to be just as much an art project, as a game.
You'd have to use a little common sense to play through it..

If you see a meat eating flower, you might want to avoid it, or simply, trial by error.


Anyways, yes, he has a valid point, a very obvious point, that doesnt make ANY sense.
I would never put anything ontop of those bricks, that wouldnt be *made* for it.
Every sprite i draw, is custom drawn for a certain set, so that it doesnt appear invisible, or hard to see.

I only used that character sprite, because that's the only type of sprite, that wouldnt be custom drawn for that set.
And text, well text goes in a text box, I dont even understand WHY we're arguing about this, there's NOTHING in my sprite sheet, that should of triggered this argument.

 
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16th December, 2010 at 09:19:42 -

If you post any kind of artistic product onto a forum expecting praise, and damning others' constructive criticism, or calling their point of view as flaming, when it clearly isn't, you probably deserve the response you're getting. You really do look like an arrogant prick. Sketchy is a respected member of this community and knows what he's talking about, while you, regardless of being a member for 5 years, have contributed little to nothing before now. If you're going to be an ass then don't f*****g post.

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16th December, 2010 at 11:44:21 -

Sketchy has not insulted your artwork. He has offered some constructive criticism and given advice on how to improve your sprites, and you have taken offense to it, something which I don't understand why. If he had simply said "your graphics suck" I would understand your reaction, but he didn't.

If you submit anything at TDC you have to respect this. You also have to handle the feedback in an appropriate way and report anything offensive to the admins. I have not seen anything offensive from Sketchy so far; he has tried to offer you advice.

If you don't like the idea of criticism then you shouldn't post things. And that applies to everyone at TDC.

Now lets ALL play nice.

 
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16th December, 2010 at 13:26:22 -

I never said that he downtalked my artwork, I simply believe that I am entitled to my own opinion on the matter, and what I feel is right.
He however, feel that this is a rule that cannot be broken.

This could be a misunderstanding, and if it is, then I'm sorry if the fault is on my side.


On a side note..
I'v contributed quite a lot to this community in my own way, but I have also removed it, I change my nickname & email quite often.

I didnt put this art here for "praise".
I put this art here, in hope that someone would find it useful, and USE it.

If you find me to be an arrogant prick, then you clearly misunderstand me, and I'm sorry.

 
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16th December, 2010 at 15:08:34 -

Why do you change your nickname and email quite often?

 
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16th December, 2010 at 19:25:30 -

Originally Posted by Sketchy
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Thread should have ended right here.

I haven't laughed this hard in a while. Thanks, Sketchy.

 
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17th December, 2010 at 07:12:13 -

I'm just gonna put this thread.. Community.. On ignore.
It's always the same, the oldest members are "always" right, and everyone else gangs up on the ones that are/seem new, and that's why this community will never truly be anything more than it already is.

Infact, through observations I'v done on this site for the past few years, it seems to me that you're LESS active.


I wont post any updates done to the spritesheet, and I wont update the spritesheet on here.
But it's still being worked on, and if you want it, then contact me through email or msn. Zethell@Live.SE

 
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17th December, 2010 at 08:50:42 -

Isn't the first and primary function of graphics to let the player know what he's doing? You can't sacrifice functionality for your own personal style.

 
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17th December, 2010 at 12:56:27 -


Originally Posted by Zethell
I'm just gonna put this thread.. Community.. On ignore.
It's always the same, the oldest members are "always" right, and everyone else gangs up on the ones that are/seem new, and that's why this community will never truly be anything more than it already is.



Now, this reaction is always the same, and always as incorrect, allow me to illustrate:


Teh cOmmUnItY (the stage of our drama)



(active regular members doing what active regular members do)


-->
(mysterious user who has watched the world for eons suddenly appear)



(active regular members continuing doing that which active regular members do)


<... ...
(mysterious user who has watched the world for eons describes -with mysteriously many "..."s'- community's lack of real quality. But lo, offers quality salvation signed mysterious user)



(active regular members still continuing doing that which active regular members do)


--> --> <
>
(mysterious user who has watched the world for eons starts calling other users names and proclaiming his/her own superiority in every field)



(active regular members s-t-i-l-l continuing doing that which active regular members do)


---> ---> ""
(mysterious user who has watched the world for eons proclaim his/her noble mission a lost cause due to satanical oldest-member who always seems to come and destroy happiness, mysterious user who has watched the world for eons disappear with dramatic gesture and a martyr's sacrifice)



(active regular members s-t-i-l-l continuing doing that which active regular members do)


(if you don't get what the active regular members continue doing you need to read the forum guidelines)

 
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17th December, 2010 at 14:44:05 -


Originally Posted by Zethell
I'm just gonna put this thread.. Community.. On ignore.
It's always the same, the oldest members are "always" right, and everyone else gangs up on the ones that are/seem new, and that's why this community will never truly be anything more than it already is.

Infact, through observations I'v done on this site for the past few years, it seems to me that you're LESS active.


I wont post any updates done to the spritesheet, and I wont update the spritesheet on here.
But it's still being worked on, and if you want it, then contact me through email or msn. Zethell@Live.SE

Have you posted the sheet anywhere else? Because I don't believe it's an old member fighting a mysterious member. Maybe show it to one of those websites where people give each other critique on their pixel art.

 
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17th December, 2010 at 16:40:44 -


Originally Posted by Ricky
Isn't the first and primary function of graphics to let the player know what he's doing? You can't sacrifice functionality for your own personal style.



UH. Are you seriously that stupid?

 
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17th December, 2010 at 17:53:45 -


Originally Posted by GamesterXIII

Originally Posted by Ricky
Isn't the first and primary function of graphics to let the player know what he's doing? You can't sacrifice functionality for your own personal style.



UH. Are you seriously that stupid?



The question is, are YOU?

You should -if you possess any form of mental capability- be able to understand the game design theory basics Ricky means.

 
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17th December, 2010 at 20:13:52 -

You CAN sacrifice functionality to benefit your own personal style. Ever heard of originality?

Thats like telling someone that their characters have to have perfect anatomy to be able to animate them properly, which is untrue.






Edited by GamesterXIII

 
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17th December, 2010 at 20:34:36 -

um no... I don't think you understood what I posted at all.

 
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17th December, 2010 at 20:49:40 -

What you say and what you mean are two totally different things.

tl;dr

Convey better

 
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