Originally Posted by Fordom Someone should make a DEappreciation thread for you.
Haha!
You're so funny!
Perhaps this forum would really benefit from a Fördom deappreciation thread.
Maybe then the admins would understand that they really need to do something about you.
I like Fordom, I don't like what he stands for but his posts amuse me. I'm not sure if he's a troll, if he's attempting some kind of psychology or if he's just plain stupid, but I strongly believe that people don't need to be protected from "harmful opinions". EE, you can see that his posts are B.S., why do you think other people wont?
As for the original post, we need people like Nastyman to keep the place from getting boring.
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Originally Posted by Phredreeke YES! ELIMINATE THE DISSIDENT!
I like Fordom, I don't like what he stands for but his posts amuse me. I'm not sure if he's a troll, if he's attempting some kind of psychology or if he's just plain stupid, but I strongly believe that people don't need to be protected from "harmful opinions". EE, you can see that his posts are B.S., why do you think other people wont?
As for the original post, we need people like Nastyman to keep the place from getting boring.
Ahh, dammit. I wrote a long reply and my connection died when I posted.
To sum up what I had written:
This forum has som guidelines and rules, they're there for a reason. Some people can actually get quite upset about moronic and racist provokations about stuff, especially if they involve tragedies and such.
I don't see Fordoms reasons for being here at all since the only thing he does is being offensive and abusive.
This place has a hard time keeping alive and pleasant as it is without people being here and douching about just because there's a low admin activity.
You might find Fordom being a comic relief, but others might not.
And I'm not focusing on his lame behaviour against me personally, it's primarily about the tasteless remarks and posts about things that actually concerns people.
There is a fine line between being an amuzing troll and being an obnoxious douche, I find Fordom to be quite a few steps past the latter. There is nothing wrong with sharing your opinion, but it's not okay to spam racist propaganda all over the place.
I seriously believe other members share my view on the subject.
Originally Posted by Phredreeke "When did sticks and stones may break my bones stop being relevant?"
Also, I find your disinterest highly offensive. ADMINS BAN ETERNAL MAN PLZ!!!!!!!!!!
This is kind of stupid. You don't have to be a genius to see the logic of behaving in a somewhat civilized manner when partaking in a community forum.
And as a point, I never actually said he should be banned, I said that he should stop being offensive and abusive in the manner he is.
Your lol-rofl-omg-he's-so-fun attitude is similarily unneccessary, it isn't and never has been ok to be a douche if it's the only side you show to the community. I don't get why you can't relate to how others, besides yourself, can react to that kind of aire that falls upon the forums. Perhaps, you just don't give a f***, I don't know, I don't care, my argument isn't with you anyway. It just makes you look awfully sympathetic to Fordoms crap when you try and reduce the argument with whimsical nonsense.
And btw, the sticks-and-stones argument is appropriate in a situation where you can't expect people to behave civilized. When you sign up to this site and go about posting on it's forums you also agree to it's rules and guidelines, if you can't bear to follow these you have no place in the forums. Simple as that.
Those guidelines and rules are there to try and ensure that every person visiting the forums will have a pleasant experience. Of course they can't be followed to the dot in every single discussion, but a systematic violation of them is another matter.
I realize I sound like the most boring person ever, but beneath all your sarcasm and look-at-me attitude you really should get what I'm saying.
There's a difference between not understanding what you're saying, and not AGREEING with what you're saying.
Lets assume he's here to troll, then you're playing right into his hands. He wants a reaction, if you just ignored him he'd be bored and leave.
If we instead assume he's actually doing some sort of reverse psychology thing, then it seems to be working as you are so upset over it.
Or if he's genuinely a racist, well, I must say that I admire him for standing for his opinion, no matter how unpopular that makes him. That doesn't mean I agree with him though!
Now what I wish for would be that people could discuss maturely instead of crying about being offended and wanting him gone.
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Lets assume he's here to troll, then you're playing right into his hands. He wants a reaction, if you just ignored him he'd be bored and leave.
So you're saying every troll is welcome to the TDC forums since this is a safe haven for people below civilized communication?
If we instead assume he's actually doing some sort of reverse psychology thing, then it seems to be working as you are so upset over it.
As I said before, I'm not especially bothered with his personal remarks toward me, I'm speaking up since I see him disrupting a community I am a part of and that his trolling/reverse psychology/heroic opinionation can make a lot of users/potential users feel uncomfortable in these forums and decide to stay away, which we don't want.
Or if he's genuinely a racist, well, I must say that I admire him for standing for his opinion, no matter how unpopular that makes him. That doesn't mean I agree with him though!
As I also said before, there is a hugh difference between standing for your opinion in discussions and spamming threads with racist propaganda.
EXAMPLE:
Person A stands in a schoolyard with children of mixed cultural background.
Person B approaches person A and asks what he thinks of the children.
Scenario 1:
Person A says "I don't believe in this idea of allowing so many immigrants and having these classes of mixed cultures, I believe in a pure country."
Person B: O.o
Scenario 2:
Person A lifts up his megaphone and countryflag, screams towards the children "All of you filthy sluoche immigrants should leave my country and go home! You are inferior and will be destroyed in the restoration of the Arian Empire!"
Person B: ;O
Result:
Scenario 1: Person A stands for his opinion in conversation.
Scenario 2: Person B is being a complete egotistical douche and should be removed from the schoolyard since the kids shouldn't have to listen to hateful rants like that.
Not a too bad example really, there people of all ages and cultures here. And no one should be allowed to act as in scenario 2 under such circumstances. There are a lot of racist and nazi forums on the internet where Fordom can share his passionate ideological outbursts, no need to do it here.
Now what I wish for would be that people could discuss maturely instead of crying about being offended and wanting him gone.
Yup that's your wish. In the perspective Phreedreeke as sole user on TDC it's fully viable, but since that's not the situation you should realize that your opinion is only based on your personal comfort, not in favour of the site as a whole.
And I'll say it again, he's as welcome as anybody else as long as he's not plain abusive. And that's not just my personal standpoint, it's the whole forum policy.
Except you make Fordom out as much worse than he actually is. Spamming? He barely posts.
Originally Posted by Eternal Man [EE]
Yup that's your wish. In the perspective Phreedreeke as sole user on TDC it's fully viable, but since that's not the situation you should realize that your opinion is only based on your personal comfort, not in favour of the site as a whole.
Personal comfort? Letting OTHER people speak their mind is a matter of my personal comfort? A place where people are scared of sharing their thoughts out of fear of offending people would be boring. To quote Nietzsche "In heaven all the interesting people are missing."
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@Phred: So you don't think it's inappropriate in any sense to post "The people are awaking! Look what happened in norway at utöya! The communists are getting their punishment for being communists!" in connection with the event?
Screw this, you're just too self-absorbed to get what I'm talking about anyway.
You could think to yourself "This idiot isn't worth wasting my time with" and ignore him, but instead you choose to make a big fuss about him. If he's a troll then you are his best friend
Anyway, NastyMan is awesome.
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If either of you guys need to continue your debate, please do so through DC Mail or through an appropriately named topic.
It doesn't matter who holds the right opinion. If you dislike Nastyman, that's fine, but please don't say that here with the intention of starting a conflict. The purpose of this thread was to promote something genuinely positive, so let's keep it that way, savvy?
I'd like to thank NastyMan for all of his contributions to the site up to this point, up to and including a plethora of unique platform games. Keep on creating, buddy.
You were good back in the day, and I haven't been around for a while so I don't know if you've turned into an evil bellend recently, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you're a groovy guy, and keep it up (being a groovy guy)!
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