help! when i play a fullscreen tgf game under windows xp, it it about 5 times slower than usual any one know how to fix this?? in win 98 its fine though. weird.
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Assault Andy Administrator
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8th June, 2003 at 02:23:05 -
It's a memory problem, XP uses lots of memory so your comp under XP probabley doesn't have enough memory to run it. Btw there is a code it board to post these questions in.
Yea, my computer is Windows XP and my Laptop fried so I don't have any games and I can't make more games because TGF becomes super buggy in XP! Will MMF work in XP?
how much RAM do you have on each system? Have you tried using the task manager to see how much memory your game is using?
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I was wondering what video card are you using? If you have Geforce based card you need to update you drivers. They had some problems with their drivers and 2d games awhile back. That was a problem I had until I updated my drivers.
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19th January, 2004 at 11:39:56 -
same here. i was once told XP looked like tellytubbyland with lots of lovely big bright buttons everywhere. i do agree to a certain extent... xp is more functional, but they've tried to make it TOO easy to use.
same here, too. i didn't get it until 98 started crashing on startup.. then i realised how much more stable it is
"Say you're hanging from a huge cliff at the top of mt. everest and a guy comes along and says he'll save you, and proceeds to throw religious pamphlets at you while simultaniously giving a sermon." - Dustin G
I don't get it with you guys, you refuse to see progress!
For me, windows XP professional (which I use) is the best and most stable os so far. MMF is also the best click tool for 2D and personally after 3 years with TGF and 1 with MMF i'll never go back.
Without wanting to start an argument with everyone, I agree with you Lew. Some people can't be arsed to get used to any differences and so stick with the old stuff, so they remain behind, tolerating the limitations of the old programs.
I can't always stay up to date though, I'm on 3D Studio Max 4 cos it takes ages for the newest versions of Max to be supported by plugin developers. I also use Winamp 2, because all I want is a simple mp3 player, not one like versions 3 and above that eat up RAM like a bitch.
I use XP pro, and I have never had a problem with TGF or MMF. XP is by far the best windows (Though 98 is good) I dont like all the flashy buttons so I changed it to Classic style.
Has anyone tryed Vsync with TGF?
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I can easily run TGF and games made in TGF on my winxp computer. No trouble at all really. If you dump winxp only because of the looks youre crazy. Ever heard of classic style? no? well it gives winxp the same look as 9x/me/2k. Yes, it takes up more memory, but so does win98 over dos 1.0! That does NOT mean you use dos 1.0???
winxp is by far better than win98 if you have just a half descent computer. Its much more stable, especially at handling big amounts of data. win98 explorer tend to crash if you try to copy just 10gb between 2 hds.
Whoa! did I have problems editing video on win98? yep, you bet! Is it a sweet run on winxp? you bet!
As for slow games make sure you have service pack 1 for winxp installed. Then make sure you have the latest drivers for your motherboard (IDE, AGP), your graphics board and your sound card. And you DO of course have the latest version of TGF? (1.05 btw?).
I think it has something to do with the fact that TGF/MMF will stretch everything to fit the screen, and making everything a lot bigger will naturally need more memory. If i try and do this with a game, it'd stretch a 640x480 game up to 1280x1024, and ofcourse that's laggy.
Solution: Use a resolution changer object, and change the resolution, instead of fitting the game to current resolution...i think these 2 things look relatively alike, but changing the resolution would probably give you -more- memory since you'd use only the resolution the game needs, and not a bigger one...
Yes I also use Change Res option, but it can be anoying if your using 1024x and get changed to 800x and if the game crashes it doesnt switch back to 1024 (And then your bloody icons are moved!)
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I like my XP! Probably because I have a nice hard drive and a 256mb RAM graphics card, along with a flat screen. And TGF runs fine on it, except for one click game (dark aftermath) that really [profanity] my resolution. And if you wanna whine about xp, do it. Who's the one mssing out?
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anyhow i belive if you know how to use TGF well, just as good results can easily be achieved, but you to use some crafty tricks to get the power out of the old beastie though .
Have yall heared about virtual memory?
virtual memory is fake ram your computer uses on your hard drive instead of a memory card.I use to use virtual memory because my computer froze too much from having almost no ram(i bought more ram months ago).Use virtual memory if you do not wanna go waste money on expensive memory cards.
note:If you have a slow hard drive i do not recommend virtual memory cause it can be slow.
Virtual memory seems to have almost no effect on things. I once disabled virtual memory and didn't remember to put it back on for about a year.
As for XP vs 98, I agree that XP crashes a hell lot more. Maybe it's because of XP's reliance on IE 6, which already crashes like hell, but I find 98 (Second Edition) far more stable. Might I remind you that XP is also extremely vulnerable to hackers? I had more hacker threats than I kept track of and none of them got past my sturdy little Win 98 SE (or probably couldn't hack a computer to save their lives).
Graphically, it's cool after you sort it out. I still hate the large default buttons on most comps, so I just shrink them and change the color. I had a neat little 3D Invasion of the Muz 3D theme last year till I reformated my comp . And the cursor has a shadow!
But overall, I still prefer good ol' 98 SE for menial labor, like network rendering or LAN games.
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Assault Andy Administrator
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29th January, 2004 at 02:50:53 -
I like the way XP looks and I don't have anything against it even though I use 98. If games seem to run slowly on your computer then you may want to fiddle around with some of the options in the application properties > Runtime. Vsync, Use Direct X, Use Vram. V-ram makes a huge differance, My computer can't handle scrolling in MMF games but when I flick V-ram on they run smoother than a smoothie.
But ya MMF is better in that it can handle the frames faster right?
cause TGF kinda sucks on the frame rate when its full screen unlease you have a fast computer right?
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bring on TGF and 98...
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(And then your bloody icons are moved!)
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. And the cursor has a shadow!
