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Blackgaze

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24th July, 2003 at 14:03:13 -

I have search DC and clickteam
i have the internet.
i have asked people.
Does any1 know how to create mods
OR
How to change waves/mp3 to mods.

 
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24th July, 2003 at 14:29:55 -

Yes. www.modarchive.com/artists/wong_chung_bang

After that blatant bit of self-promotion, I'll tell you that I use Modplug Tracker. You can get it from www.modplug.com and it's rather easy to use once you get the hang of it (there's a tutorial provided in the Quick Start pack).

As for converting wavs and mp3s to MODs, it's possible due to the style of the MOD format but not really recommended. All you have to do is set up a MOD that plays that one WAV file, then save it out and use it.

 
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24th July, 2003 at 15:17:59 -

i have to register. is there another site, or can u upload so i can dl it.

 
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24th July, 2003 at 18:22:33 -

i found a program called madtracker and it is easy to make mods with but ive never bothered because im rubbish at it.

 
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24th July, 2003 at 18:57:49 -

Spiderhead: Just register if you can, it doesn't take long, and it's spam-free as far as I can tell.

If for some reason you can't register, I'll see what I can do about uploading.

 
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25th July, 2003 at 02:01:50 -

Create mods for click games? Or for other games?

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25th July, 2003 at 02:02:16 -

O wait oops! I'm so stupid .

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25th July, 2003 at 07:10:53 -

ok i have madtracker and modplug tracker.
But wrong how can i open a Mp3 on that and convert it to a mod?
or how do i save the file as a mod?

 
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25th July, 2003 at 07:26:03 -

and also, are mod files smaller than mp3?

 
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25th July, 2003 at 07:36:40 -

mod isn't the same as mp3,
mod is just something like mp3,
except you put in a little wave sound
like drums, guitars, pianos, explosions,
whatever.
Then you create a rythm with these sounds
and that's saved in a mod file.
Midi is more or less the same, but midi
uses the build in wavetable of your soundcard.
(Or software driver, like yamaha synth).

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25th July, 2003 at 11:26:11 -

I've been using a program called Impulse Tracker since '98 (which also is a tracker) and let me tell you all:
Midi is shit compared to mods.
Midi uses extremely low quality sounds where mods use whatever you want. In some cases the quality of a mod is even better than an mp3.

But mods can't just be created just like that. You gotta know about music and how it works. But i recommend the prog i use, Impulse Tracker which is at http://www.noisemusic.org/it

There's just one problem, IT works best if you use a program called VDMSound.

WARNING: Tracking (= creating mods) can be _very_ tricky business if you're completely new to it

 
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25th July, 2003 at 13:48:16 -

Your best bet for creating MODs is getting a good MOD maker, some basic instruments - drums, bass, guitar, synth (square wave/sawtooth wave and all that), piano and sax, for example - and just try making a drum track. After you've made a good rhythm, you can start adding other instruments until you get the hang of it. From there you can start adding other patterns, and finally create a sequence.

Alternatively, look for a tutorial somewhere. I'm sure someone made one...

Midi is shit compared to mods.
Midi uses extremely low quality sounds where mods use whatever you want. In some cases the quality of a mod is even better than an mp3.


MIDI is hardware dependent, unless you use DirectMusic to play the MIDI. Modern soundcards have reasonably good MIDI instruments, and they get better if you have a more expensive one (over 20 perhaps).
Quality of a MOD is only better than an MP3 if the MP3 has been poorly encoded. Filesize of MODs are smaller, though. MO3s are even smaller than that!

 
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25th July, 2003 at 14:11:39 -

another thing about midi is that, as we've established, how it sounds is dependant on your soundcard. With mods, they always sound more or less the same, even if played on a bad soundcard. Another thing is that the samples used in midi (and that's generally speaking!) are really really awful and sound like buckets being hit on and stuff. With mods, you yourself decide how good samples should be etc.

 
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25th July, 2003 at 14:15:15 -

i have my songs as Mp3 already. i need to know how i can convert them to mod. if mp3 cant become a mod how about wave?

 
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25th July, 2003 at 14:21:08 -

why convert them at all?????????????????????????????????

 
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25th July, 2003 at 14:45:19 -

because mods take up less room than mp3

 
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25th July, 2003 at 15:57:25 -

There's no way you can convert from mp3 to mod.
Mp3/wav files are 1 single stream of sound saved into a file.

Mods only have the sounds for the instruments in them only. Say i have a list of files:
basedrum.wav
snaredrum.wav
hihat.wav
bass.wav
guitar.wav

I will then tell the mod to play these wave files in a certain order which makes out rythms and riffs, but it will always just be the single wave file for each instrument that's stored in the mod file.
here's a pic:
http://eviscerator.users.whitehat.dk/comparison.jpg

 
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25th July, 2003 at 16:10:25 -

fine, my game just has to stick with mp3. not the best quality

 
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25th July, 2003 at 18:24:43 -

Just to be picky: It is possible to convert mp3s to MOD in a way. First you have to make a sample/instrument out of the entire mp3 file (by converting it to WAV) and then save out the MOD that plays only that sample. There's no point to doing this, however, as your music will take up far more space than it did originally.

Oh, and my name isn't "wrong", although that was a strangely appropriate way to misspell it.

 
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25th July, 2003 at 18:52:19 -

I was aware of this, but i didn't mention it due to its uselessnes

 
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