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18th November, 2003 at 19:50:36 -

I was talking to someone and he said that binary is HEX and that 010000100100100101001110010000010101001001011001 is fake is only a encryption maybe not even that, he said he opened .exes with a HEX editor on binary mode and it was HEX, so therefore, Binary isn't real, your PC isn't made from binary, Linux, Windows, Mac are all made in HEX.

010000110110111101110010011100100110010101100011011101000010000
001101101011001010010000001101001011001100010000001001001001001
110110110100100000011101110111001001101111011011100110011100101
100001000000111010001101000011010010111001100100000011010010111
001100100000011000100110100101101110011000010111001001111001


 
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18th November, 2003 at 20:16:17 -

I'm not going to decode that crap. Anyway, hex editors are presented in hex, hense the name. Hex has a special relationship with binary (8/8-1 thing), and the larger number are easier for us to recognize. The 'binary mode' probably refers to binaries as compiled files rather than binary as in the number system.

And I have no doubt that most assembler-made apps are made in hex, it's just easier to understand. But the hex is converted to binary, they're basically the same thing, just represented differently.

 
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19th November, 2003 at 01:11:01 -

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19th November, 2003 at 02:50:17 -

That text was "Correct me if I'm wrong, this is binary"

 
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19th November, 2003 at 03:50:36 -

>I was talking to someone and he said that binary is HEX and that 010000100100100101001110010000010101001001011001 is fake

Tell your friend I'm telling him that if he doesn't know what hes talking about he should STFU and stop spreading things like that crock of s*it.

Binary is no more fake than decimal numbers. Binary, Octal, decimal and Hex all do the same thing, they represent numbers. They're number systems! Hex is more commonly used in computing as it can represent up to 16 numbers as a single character, therefore being the most efficient method of representing data.

>your PC isn't made from binary

Correct, its made from metals and plastics

>Linux, Windows, Mac are all made in HEX

I think you'll find they're all made in combinations of Assembler, C and C++. And in this respect, binary is about as real as your going to get. Why? Because information has to be broken down to electrical signals to be of any use on a computer. Electrical signals are either on (1) or off (0), so if anything, binary is the most physicaly real number system that you can have!!

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19th November, 2003 at 04:28:27 -

Binary is not an 'encoded' form of anything. Hex was designed to make looking at *binary* easier. This person needs to get their facts right, heh.

A byte is built up of 8 bits (binary digits - that's eight 0's or 1's). Hex was used to write binary in fewer digits, because it's just so cumbersome for humans to look at. One hex digit represents precisely 4 of those bits. They can be converted like this:

0000 - 0
0001 - 1
0010 - 2
0011 - 3
0100 - 4
0101 - 5
0110 - 6
0111 - 7
1000 - 8
1001 - 9
1010 - A
1011 - B
1100 - C
1101 - D
1110 - E
1111 - F

The computer processor does not handle hex, it handles data in its raw binary format. It can't handle anything else because the processor consists of transistors, and these can only handle 'on' or 'off'.

The reason he saw the file loaded in hex is because it's a bit easier for a human to see FF6C than 1111111101101100, so the computer is TOLD to convert the above table. Load the file in notepad and you'll see a jumble of symbols in a format known as ASCII -- does that mean all computers work in ASCII format? No, it means the software is displaying the binary in ASCII format because that's what the program is telling it to do. The same applies for hex editors. They show hex, but the hex only represents the binary in the file.

Your friend's either having you on, or he's very, very stupid. Hex IS binary, just a kind of binary shorthand that humans use. The processor doesn't use it (if it did, you'd have a blisteringly fast machine!).

So you can print that and tell 'im!

 
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19th November, 2003 at 04:35:13 -

Binary isn't real? Good, that means my computer isn't real, which is just as well because it was on its last legs anyway.

 
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19th November, 2003 at 10:34:04 -

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19th November, 2003 at 17:56:56 -

I was binary once.

 
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19th November, 2003 at 18:32:58 -

I think everyone else got the point across, but I just thought I'd say--

hex is a base 16 number system, binary is a base 2, the number system we use is base 10. thats the only diffenence. None of these are more fake than any other.

for example:

decimal(base 10) number 58 is 3A in hex or 111010 in binary

 
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19th November, 2003 at 19:33:49 -

i remember this from college
a bit is one digit 1 or 0
a byte is 8 digits (and can be understood as a ascii character)
a kilobyte is 1024 bytes

and so on

 
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21st November, 2003 at 03:49:11 -

Yah, it's been said, Binary, Octal, Decimal, Hexidecimal are all different ways of storing numbers and other information. They store the exact same thing, just in a different way.

Computers store it in binary, but generally when you use a program to read files it will display it in Hex because it's a lot easier to comprehend.

For example:

Decimal: 12
Binary: 1100
Oct: 14
Hex: C

They all mean the same thing

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21st November, 2003 at 06:01:08 -

"Hex is used because it is very easy to convert from Binary to Hex."

See my ickle table for further details

 
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21st November, 2003 at 08:15:46 -

I was gonna type something, but yeah... what Paul and Dines said...

 
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