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17th April, 2004 at 08:58:46 -

I'd like your oppinions on what counts as broadband, and if 1mbps can be desribed as "full-speed broadband" and lesser speeds as "full-speed service".

My oppinion is that broadband is a wide-ranging term which includes T3 and other super-fast technologies, therefore describing a 1mbps service as full-speed is misleading because "broadband" can go faster, even if (possibly) ADSL can not.

On the other hand, some may define anything above 1mbps as something else, such as wideband or superband, and therefore not classify as broadband.

Here is a clip from the averts: "you can select the full-speed broadband service which suits your needs", they also describe some of their products as having "full security", I'm not sure how misleading that is.

Now, you could argue that the "service" as in everything that is not broadband is what they are calling full-speed, as in "top-quality customer support" could mean only supportfor top-quality customers, or top-quality support for all customers. I would like your interperatation. If asked I will provide the full texts of their adverts.

But, even if they are not technically telling a lie, they could still be misleading.

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17th April, 2004 at 09:04:37 -

on their website BT define broadband as "Quite simply, broadband gives you a high-speed connection to the Internet that is ‘always on’."

 
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17th April, 2004 at 10:22:10 -

I cannot give any evidence, however Im quite sure a "broadband" connection is a T1 or T3 connection (the terms from usa I believe) ... meaning at least 1,5 mbits (T1) is a "true" "broadband" connection.

However as the name itself is not a registered standard executives and sales departments can rape the term any way they see fit. Here in Denmark the former national telephone company uses the term for any ADSL connection they offer (starting at 128 kbits speeds).

A side note. ADSL is actually capable of speeds up to 11 mbits, you just have to live very close to your central and the cables must be of good quality (and an ISP must offer the speed of course). Here in Denmark a internet company called Cybercity offers speeds up 2,5 mbits and the option to upgrade your connection up to 3 days to 8 mbits (allthough they clearly state most customers will experience a speed between 4 and 8 mbits).

 
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17th April, 2004 at 10:30:18 -

Here's a broad band: http://www.somethingawful.com/mjolnir/images/omgwtfbbq~Smash0r.jpg

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17th April, 2004 at 10:52:43 -

as far as i interpret it, broadband is anything that is not narrowband... e.g. anything about 56kbps. so 128kbps is broadband, and is marketed as such (NTL and tiscali do 128k "broadband" packages).

so the name broadband is probably derived from the technology behind it: analogue signals are narrowbond, digital is broadband.

 
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17th April, 2004 at 11:19:52 -

1 mbps is pretty slow for broadband service. I usually pull somewhere in the 3mbps to 4mbps range. However, I would describe it as anything above 56K.

 
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17th April, 2004 at 17:10:33 -

So do you think them describing 1mbp as a full-speed broadband service is misleading?

 
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17th April, 2004 at 17:41:50 -

"full speed" is. because there is no definition of "full".

 
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17th April, 2004 at 18:28:19 -

"Hey kid, I'm a computer!"

 
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18th April, 2004 at 12:45:32 -

dictionary.com

full
n.
1. The maximum or complete size or amount: repaid in full.
2. The highest degree or state: living life to the full.

in relation to baseball:
# Of maximum or highest degree: at full speed.

 
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18th April, 2004 at 13:47:01 -

Full-speed therefore means the fastest available; 1mbit is not full speed then, as faster is available.

 
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18th April, 2004 at 14:44:15 -

Fastest=infinite.

What I think is the most important part of broadband is that you don't pay for the time you are online If it wasn't I'd be broke already

 
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18th April, 2004 at 15:23:19 -

I got 100mb/s and thats a real full-speed broadband

 
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18th April, 2004 at 16:01:51 -

well i think "full speed" would be whatever was the fastest availalbe service that company supports.

and the name broadband was probably given because the technology has a larger bandwidth than what was common at the time. more bandwidth = more data per second.

 
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18th April, 2004 at 18:44:38 -

here's another Broad Band:

http://www.azimut2001.com/images/sfondi/musica/spice-girls_a6.jpg

 
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18th April, 2004 at 18:50:15 -

wonk wonk

 
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18th April, 2004 at 18:53:13 -

God, what a bunch of Dykes. To think ppl thought Baby Spice or whatever was hot. HA! I say

 
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19th April, 2004 at 17:50:10 -

yeah.

those crazy fools.

*coughs*

 
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19th April, 2004 at 21:23:00 -

lol

 
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21st April, 2004 at 00:09:28 -

Dual-Channel ISDN(whatever that is...) is 128kbps.(~12kb/sec max) My Mom's office computer downloads 5.4kb/sec(INSANE 56k!). Both are slow though, so I'd define broadband as anything at or over 256kbps.

Pre-Broadband: 0 - 128kbps
Slow Broadband: 256 - 768kbps
Normal Broadband: 1.5 - 4mbps
Fast Broadband: 5 - 9mbps

In Canada though the slowest broadband ADSL connections are 1.5mbps(with options up to 4mbps). Cable connections vary greatly, from 512kbps to 6mbps.

 
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21st April, 2004 at 11:01:29 -

I think 512k adsl is the most common here in the UK. Thats what I have...

 
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29th April, 2004 at 18:44:01 -

You call all those speeds broadband? 100Mbs Pah that crawls along compared to my uni's Über connection of 1Gbs.

 
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29th April, 2004 at 20:54:38 -

i say broadband means non dial up, anything non aol related too, aol for broadband, whats the whole point?

 
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