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ChrisB
Crazy?
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16/08/2002
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5457
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22nd June, 2004 at 19:07:01 -
I like watching Will & Grace but I have no desire to go to the gym and look at all the sweaty men.
(Anyone know how many children of gay parent(s) turn out to be gay themselves?)
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Retired Kliker Lazarus
The Ed Wood JR of TDC
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7363
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22nd June, 2004 at 21:13:21 -
My previous post has been deleted...Guess it was bad or something...Anyway, I think that, if you must be gay, don't adopt. Think of the children... They'll be messed up for the rest of their lives. And they'll end up running themselves off of a cliff or something because they can't except the horrid truth: their parents were gay, and they were adopted.
Fine Garbage since 2003.
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Silveraura
God's God
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08/08/2002
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22nd June, 2004 at 22:10:11 -
It is a mental illnise, controlled by sicoligy though. Its basicly if a guy thinks they love another guy, something is going wrong with the natrual balance in there head. If its not natrual for 2 guys or 2 laties to make love, & they think they should, something is wrong somewhere in there brain. Its plain enstint! A cat attacks a mouse because its enstint, a male should not be sexually attracted to another male or vise versa.
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Shawn Wolfram
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15/08/2003
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435
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22nd June, 2004 at 23:18:21 -
"Fear of or contempt for lesbians and gay men.
Behavior based on such a feeling."
I thought you said before it had nothing to do with fear?
"I didn't say homophobes necessarily are afraid."
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JP
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07/06/2003
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1338
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23rd June, 2004 at 03:24:58 -
Fear of or CONTEMPT. Don't be so trivial.
Hehe, Brandon's tryong yo help out your cause. I will correct his spelling mistakes to make it legible, even if the content is crap.
It is a mental illness, controlled by sociology* though. It[’]s basically [like] if a guy thinks [he] love[s] another guy, something is going wrong with the natural balance in [their] head. If its not natural for [two] guys or [two] [ladies] to make love, & they think they should, something is wrong somewhere in [their] brain. Its plain “instinct“! A cat attacks a mouse because its [instinct], a male should not be sexually attracted to another male or vise versa**.
*Assuming this is the word you meant, the sentence still does not make sense.
**Vise versa meaning neither male should be attracted to each other. I think he meant it goes for women also.
It is NOT a mental illness, refer to Pete's post.
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Anne-Marie: No, they have to share one.
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Pkeod
Oontz Oontz Oontz
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19/11/2002
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93
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23rd June, 2004 at 15:38:56 -
um.. it's a life style.
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Teapot
Does he even go here
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02/10/2003
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2631
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24th June, 2004 at 01:32:27 -
Marriage is the union between a man and a woman. If gays want to get married so badly, they can call it something else.
Also gays shouldn't adopt, it is unfair to the child. A child needs a mother and father, and no, just because you dress in drag doesn't make you a mum.
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Darkstar
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27/01/2002
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12
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24th June, 2004 at 07:38:00 -
Teapot, you're a bigot, and 20 years from now being a close-minded ignorant fool like you will be no different than being a racist today is. 50 years ago interracial marriage would've caused a stir, but now we've got someone new to pick on. Why do some people care SO MUCH about something that doesn't effect them? Ohhh you're protecting the sacred act of marriage? Bullshit. Two words, Las Vegas. There's nothing sacred about weddings anymore..half of them don't even succeed in the US, and you just want to exclude people who you don't understand because you choose not to understand them. And your comment about adoption? A kid needs both a mom and a dad? A large percentage of kids are raised by single mothers because dead beat dads who won't pay child support would rather get drunk and hit the town (or the wife, for that matter). There are a lot of caring, loving homes with gay parents that the child could be born into. Homosexuality isn't right, it isn't wrong, it shouldn't even have a moral weight attached to it because you don't choose your sexual preference and it harms noone in society..but your 2000 year old morals which are in dire need of an update are trying to hold the fort of oppression on society when everyone else has come to their senses. Get over it, go on with your life, and maybe if you were a part of a minority that was oppressed you'd understand too.
Oh yeah, Checkmate.
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Penguin Seph
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11/12/2002
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1338
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24th June, 2004 at 12:43:36 -
Wow Darkstar, that's just what I was thinking.
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JP
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07/06/2003
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1338
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24th June, 2004 at 16:31:27 -
Clap, clap, clap.
Steve Zissou: Anne-Marie, do all the interns get Glocks?
Anne-Marie: No, they have to share one.
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David Newton (DavidN)
Invisible
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27/10/2002
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8322
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24th June, 2004 at 17:01:59 -
I haven't yet contributed to this, so I'll just wade in at this point...
First, well done Darkstar. The argument that the existing definition of marriage will be tarnished is a stupid one - how can this make marriage any less meaningful? Remember when Britney Spears got married to whatshisname, and it lasted 17 hours? Now, that's a meaningless marriage.
However (and some might not like me for this) I'm less keen on married gays being allowed to adopt children. I'm not going to argue that it shouldn't be done because it's "unfair on the child", but just because the union of two of the same sex could not produce a child - so it's unnatural for it to be allowed to happen in this way. (This wasn't worded very well, but do you know what I'm trying to say?)
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Nobuyuki
Possibly Insane 
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03/01/2002
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2111
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24th June, 2004 at 20:12:26 -
I would have to agree. It's 16 year old idiots who marry a girl cause they don't want to have pre-marital sex that fxck up the institution of marraige. You guys should have a lot worse things to worry about, seriously.
Here's my opinion of things. I believe I am liberal on the issue, like the "majority", but in realistic practice, homosexuals being everywhere still makes me slightly uncomfortable. Mainly because the ones I've had to deal with are very infedelite to their partners and whatnot and make me feel that their bisexuality/homosexuality is part of a fad instead of "the real deal". And no matter what your sexual preference, I very much dislike people who cheat, or are unfaithful.
That being said, those homosexuals who do wish to marry I believe have a LOT more burden put on them to make sure they're doing what's right for them, and therefore a much HIGHER number of those couples will have the chance to form a meaningful relationship. This also leads me onto the topic of adoption:
I believe that homosexual COUPLES should be allowed to adopt, but those who are single should not for the same reasons I think a heterosexual individual should not be allowed to adopt -- because there is no maternal/paternal instinct associated with an adopted child, there is no way for a stable parenthood can evolve without having two parents. Herein lies some interesting legal quagmires, which thanks to a lot of you guys who form the public opinion, cause a lot of problems for people who have changed their lifestyle.
Problem 1. Overcoming the stereotype that all homosexuals have infidelities. Most of you people who are against gay adoption would probably cite this as some sort of fact which will totally screw up a kid. In my personal opinion (which I'm afraid I can't back up with hard facts at this point), most homosexuals probably wouldn't even CONSIDER adopting unless they've already established a family atmosphere in their household and were at least somewhat ready for it. Wouldn't you do the same thing if you were going to adopt?
Problem 2. The belief that the child will have developmental problems due to other people's judgement upon them due to their parents' lifestyle. This is harder to debunk than the first problem, but say the majority of people in this day and age above the age of 18 already believe homosexuals should have equal rights as hetero's since they're 1/20 of our population. If this is to be the case, then the majority of children being raised in hetereosexual households should already be being taught the proper values of society and that it is an acceptable lifestyle. Which means they shouldn't make fun of Billy who has Two Moms. This being the case, only those in the small minority who actively condemn homosexuality would go so far as to allow their children to ostracize one of their peers for something as meager as having two dads or two moms. Shame on them, and shame on you if you support them.
Problem 3. The legal problem. In several states, it's illegal for homosexuals to adopt anyway, despite constitutional concerns. Take a case in florida where a woman who had previously adopted entered into a lesbian relationship and was (if I remember correctly) FORCED AGAINST HER WILL to revoke her maternal rights. This, in my humble opinion, is a GROSS miscarraige of justice in the best interests of the child. What exactly is the state hoping to accomplish to better the life of a child by removing it from a FIT mother?
I think that's all I gotta say for now. Pete and Darky might be able to elaborate on any of my points if they have any more knowledge on the (few) actual facts/stories I presented amongst the opinions here.
P.S. Unrelated statistic: Speaking of 4% of the population being homosexuals, did you know that up to 1 in 2000 births in the US are of intersexed gender? We should really start re-thinking boolean logic on the gender issue in this day and age, just imagine what kind of rights the intersexed will have to fight for once we clear this whole homosexual rights issue. These people are genetically/phyisically predisposed, a medical fact which cannot be argued like our current political debate on a sexual lifestyle. And yet, nobody argues about what their rights are o.o (in fact, most of them are surgically mutilated at birth and are given gender assignment by the doctor or parents or both -- sometimes even against their normal genetic assignment!)
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Dogzer
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07/02/2011
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1029
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25th June, 2004 at 17:44:29 -
i love nobu!!!! (sexualy)
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Mr Icekirby
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18/12/2003
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25th June, 2004 at 18:57:32 -
i say, kill all the gay guys, but theres no problem with lezbains...
Mr Icekirby says so!
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Dogzer
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07/02/2011
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1029
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25th June, 2004 at 19:55:07 -
i do have a problem with damn lesbians.. damn them to hell..
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