The Daily Click ::. Forums ::. Klik Coding Help ::. Be Careful With InstallShield!
 

Post Reply  Post Oekaki 
 

Posted By Message

Silveraura

God's God

Registered
  08/08/2002
Points
  6747

Game of the Week WinnerKlikCast StarAlien In Training!VIP Member360 OwnerWii OwnerSonic SpeedThe Cake is a LieComputerChristmas Tree!
I am an April Fool
6th September, 2004 at 00:08:02 -

If you make a click game with InstallShield that includes CNCS232.DLL & you test it out, then uninstall it. I noticed it wiped CNCS232.DLL out of my Windows/System folder & apperently MMF dont run anymore! Might want to be care bout that! Of course add it back in, but I dont think other people would like it very much. "DONT UNINSTALL MY GAME OR I WILL REMOVE UR CNCS232.DLL!!!"

Yes, a very useless post, but I thought it was pretty humerious & something I should share with DC.

Image Edited by the Author.

 
http://www.facebook.com/truediamondgame

Tigerworks

Klik Legend

Registered
  15/01/2002
Points
  3882
6th September, 2004 at 08:24:50 -

Umm... so... use Clickteam's Install Creator?
Install Creator is actually a damn good install program, and produces better results than I've seen anywhere else.

 
- Tigerworks

Joshtek

Administrator
The Archivist

Registered
  02/01/2002
Points
  3723

Game of the Week WinnerHas Donated, Thank You!Mr BallPicture Me This Round 50 Winner!
6th September, 2004 at 09:38:06 -

If you do you Install Shield, can't you make it install the .dll to the programs directory?

 
:: Joshtek ::


Oreos? GO! OREOS!

Silveraura

God's God

Registered
  08/08/2002
Points
  6747

Game of the Week WinnerKlikCast StarAlien In Training!VIP Member360 OwnerWii OwnerSonic SpeedThe Cake is a LieComputerChristmas Tree!
I am an April Fool
6th September, 2004 at 10:04:17 -

You can, you just have to tell InstallShield to ask the person before, basicly ask them if they want to remove CNCS232.DLL, if they do this may cause problems with other programs that need it.

Anyway, to be honist, InstallShield is ALOT better then InstallCreator & PatchMaker put together, not to say they arent good. Because they are, I'm just saying, InstallShield is just so much more flexable, more features, & such, it just needs a little more work to get what you want. Its basicly like MMF as, if you want to make a Sonic game, its possable to do it in a program that makes a Sonic game, or you can use a program more flexable, MMF, & make a better Sonic game, but it requires more work. (Not the best example, but it gets the job done.)

 
http://www.facebook.com/truediamondgame

Jenswa

Possibly Insane

Registered
  26/08/2002
Points
  2722
6th September, 2004 at 10:27:17 -

In my case, the uninstall asks me if i want to remove it, because it appears to be no longer used ...

 
Image jenswa.neocities.org

Kirby Smith

Resident Slacker

Registered
  18/05/2003
Points
  479

VIP Member360 OwnerWii OwnerThe Cake is a Lie
6th September, 2004 at 12:08:55 -

Installers are a pain in the arse anyway. Just Win-Zip the folder.

 
XBL Gamertag: Rampant Mjolnir

Silveraura

God's God

Registered
  08/08/2002
Points
  6747

Game of the Week WinnerKlikCast StarAlien In Training!VIP Member360 OwnerWii OwnerSonic SpeedThe Cake is a LieComputerChristmas Tree!
I am an April Fool
6th September, 2004 at 12:29:43 -

but when trying to run a company, its not as clean. Its just more clean to go make an installer that u can have installing the game, click uninstall & its off.

 
http://www.facebook.com/truediamondgame

Tigerworks

Klik Legend

Registered
  15/01/2002
Points
  3882
6th September, 2004 at 14:18:01 -

What features does InstallShield have that InstallCreator doesn't have, which also come in handy for installing Click games? Personally I haven't used Install Creator, so I don't know, but I find Install Creator apps much smoother and more professional - cleaner look, no flicker between screens, simple and easy to use...

 
- Tigerworks

Jenswa

Possibly Insane

Registered
  26/08/2002
Points
  2722
6th September, 2004 at 14:34:42 -

If you want to have an install program that does what you want, you probably should write it yourself, any professional company would do that or use one of the pro's. (you know them installshield, ghostinstall, msi package)

Oh what's neat to is a self-extracting cabinet file.

Try start -> run (or win+r) and type "iexpress" without the quotes.
Et voila you have a professional setup maker.


 
Image jenswa.neocities.org

ChrisB

Crazy?

Registered
  16/08/2002
Points
  5457
6th September, 2004 at 15:25:09 -

InstallShield has scripting so you can get it to do almost anything you want. Not everyone needs that, however

 
n/a

Silveraura

God's God

Registered
  08/08/2002
Points
  6747

Game of the Week WinnerKlikCast StarAlien In Training!VIP Member360 OwnerWii OwnerSonic SpeedThe Cake is a LieComputerChristmas Tree!
I am an April Fool
6th September, 2004 at 17:26:24 -

With InstallShield u can also customize every single aspect of the dialogs, create new ones with templates or from stratch, take dialogs out, & seems to compress better then InstallCreator. I just like InstallShield alot better then InstallCreator thats all.

 
http://www.facebook.com/truediamondgame

Tigerworks

Klik Legend

Registered
  15/01/2002
Points
  3882
6th September, 2004 at 19:23:09 -

As far as I know Install Creator does all that: you can customise any dialog and remove any dialog, plus it has only about a 50kb overhead and compresses files so it makes pretty small files too.

By the way, MSI sucks. It takes about a minute just to load the damn thing.

 
- Tigerworks

Capnzippy - (Smegsoft)



Registered
  11/02/2004
Points
  88
6th September, 2004 at 21:39:13 -

If zipfiles are unprofessional, howabout a nice SFX archive?

 
klik-union -- http://www.klik-union.com
http://www.capnz.info

Radix

hot for teacher

Registered
  01/10/2003
Points
  3139

Has Donated, Thank You!VIP MemberGOTW WINNER CUP 1!GOTW WINNER CUP 2!GOTW WINNER CUP 3!GOTW WINNER CUP 4!
6th September, 2004 at 21:51:20 -

What's that installer called that gives you the details of the extraction in a black box with green writing? Those ones are the sexiest. I hate InstallShield.


DON'T use an installer with a click program, unless it's a fully-featured app. I don't want your shitty games clogging up my start menu or desktop, okay people? Unless it's something orgasmic like iPublish, use a bloody archive file.

 
n/a

ChrisB

Crazy?

Registered
  16/08/2002
Points
  5457
7th September, 2004 at 11:00:41 -

You're thinking of the Nullsoft installer (there's probably a link somewhere on the WinAmp site)

 
n/a

Radix

hot for teacher

Registered
  01/10/2003
Points
  3139

Has Donated, Thank You!VIP MemberGOTW WINNER CUP 1!GOTW WINNER CUP 2!GOTW WINNER CUP 3!GOTW WINNER CUP 4!
7th September, 2004 at 11:21:59 -

Am I? I actually have NSIS installed, I've just never used it.

 
n/a

gizmo



Registered
  15/03/2003
Points
  1206
7th September, 2004 at 13:32:33 -

Ive tried InstallShield Dev X & 9 and its severe overkill for nearly all projects, it has a massive over head and is rather slow, 90% of the features you wont use. And really you shouldnt be warezing $900+ applications for something as small as a click game o_O. Just get Install Creator unregistered thats all i need for "orgasmic" iPublish

Image Edited by the Author.

 
<signature> err... </signature>

Silveraura

God's God

Registered
  08/08/2002
Points
  6747

Game of the Week WinnerKlikCast StarAlien In Training!VIP Member360 OwnerWii OwnerSonic SpeedThe Cake is a LieComputerChristmas Tree!
I am an April Fool
7th September, 2004 at 15:40:28 -

I never warezed it.

 
http://www.facebook.com/truediamondgame

Radix

hot for teacher

Registered
  01/10/2003
Points
  3139

Has Donated, Thank You!VIP MemberGOTW WINNER CUP 1!GOTW WINNER CUP 2!GOTW WINNER CUP 3!GOTW WINNER CUP 4!
7th September, 2004 at 18:50:56 -

Well, that's not very clever then. You could've saved yourself $900+.

 
n/a

Silveraura

God's God

Registered
  08/08/2002
Points
  6747

Game of the Week WinnerKlikCast StarAlien In Training!VIP Member360 OwnerWii OwnerSonic SpeedThe Cake is a LieComputerChristmas Tree!
I am an April Fool
7th September, 2004 at 19:33:28 -

Its cleaver when ever I actually go on to needing the extra features, they will atleast be there.

 
http://www.facebook.com/truediamondgame

gizmo



Registered
  15/03/2003
Points
  1206
8th September, 2004 at 08:40:41 -

There are still plenty of free install makers about, unless youre rolling out your 50Mb app with the .NET framework accross a Server 2003 based Active directory domain its pretty redundant

 
<signature> err... </signature>
   

Post Reply



 



Advertisement

Worth A Click