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dr_not_so_evil
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29/09/2004
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3
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29th September, 2004 at 16:48:09 -
Hi, Im new here and I have a question. Which clickit poduct is best for a complete noob like me? I have no programming knowlege what so ever, but I have had extensive use of the warcraft 3 world editor (Though the only thing i could do well was terraining)I am going to download TGF trial version tommorow to see what its like, but any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
I'm not evil, I'm just criminally insane.
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Joe.H
Evil Faker
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19/08/2002
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3305
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29th September, 2004 at 17:04:05 -
for a 'n00b' TGF is proberbly the best
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Tigerworks
Klik Legend
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15/01/2002
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3882
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29th September, 2004 at 18:23:00 -
Multimedia Fusion is a superior tool, but TGF is simpler and easier to use (partly because it has less options and you can't make as much stuff with it).
Try the demos and see which you prefer.
- Tigerworks
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Pabloa
Registered
29/09/2004
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70
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29th September, 2004 at 19:27:19 -
Although I haven't used Jamagic (I don't intend to either), I'd go with TGF. I used that when I was a n00b myself. Its very easy and you'll be easy programming in no time.
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JP
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07/06/2003
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1338
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30th September, 2004 at 00:41:45 -
Don't reccomend TGF, I got pessed off when I bought it, got good at it, and then had to buy MMF because I wanted to do more with it. Just buy MMF
Steve Zissou: Anne-Marie, do all the interns get Glocks?
Anne-Marie: No, they have to share one.
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tdc052621
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20/12/2002
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908
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30th September, 2004 at 01:41:27 -
Ummmm..., there are demos for a reason.
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Assault Andy
Administrator
I make other people create vaporware
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29/07/2002
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30th September, 2004 at 04:46:30 -
Buy MMF, TGF is wasting your money.
Creator of Faerie Solitaire:
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Also creator of ZDay20 and Dungeon Dash.
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Paul_James
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02/07/2002
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1320
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30th September, 2004 at 09:16:52 -
i used KNP when i was a n00b, plus that was 7 years ago
harhar
Its not enough,I need more
Not enough to satisify
I said I dont want it, I just need it.
To believe, to feel, to know I'm alive.
Knuckle deep beneath the borderlines.
This may hurt a little but its something you'll get used to.
Relax. Slip Away...
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Smeggy
The Smegster
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08/01/2003
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1062
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30th September, 2004 at 10:47:54 -
As the above said, MMF is by far the best.
http://www.klik-union.com
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dr_not_so_evil
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29/09/2004
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3
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30th September, 2004 at 13:12:41 -
Thanks for the advice everyone. I'll download the demo of MMF first, before i buy the full version. It seems that you all recomend it, so i'll give it a go.
I'm not evil, I'm just criminally insane.
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JP
Registered
07/06/2003
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1338
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30th September, 2004 at 21:37:50 -
Buy MMF dont try it, I didn't like MMF until I used it, and buying it forces you to use it.
Steve Zissou: Anne-Marie, do all the interns get Glocks?
Anne-Marie: No, they have to share one.
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Radix
hot for teacher
Registered
01/10/2003
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3139
   
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30th September, 2004 at 21:45:39 -
I don't get how people could not like MMF after trying it (yes, I'm talking about TGF luddites). I used TGF for years before I got MMF. Sure, there's a learning curve, and the interface is different, but all new software is like that. It just seemed logical to me that the newest version must have the most features and flexibility, so a period of uncomfortability is a fair trade for not limiting myself.
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ShadowCaster
Possibly Insane 
Registered
02/01/2002
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2203
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1st October, 2004 at 00:07:41 -
I concur with Radix.
MMF is newer and has more features, and TGF isnt being supported as much (if at all) by Clickteam. I cant remember when the last TGF update was released? Subsequently if you get TGF it's going to be dated a lot quicker than if you get MMF.
The only up side to getting TGF, IMO, is it's cheaper. But there's a reason for that 
 ~Mike 
"Now I guess we're... 'Path-E-Tech Management'" -Dilbert
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Crystal Clear (H.E.S)
Possibly Insane
Registered
06/10/2002
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2548
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1st October, 2004 at 03:59:56 -
Yes, MMF is more powerful. But he wants a tool for a complete "noob" at game making, and TGF is perfect for beginners, MMF isnt the greatest tool for new users 
HES homepage:
http://www.distinctiv-efair.com/heretic/studios
Crystal Clear Productions: http://www.distinctiv-efair.com/heretic/crystalclear
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Radix
hot for teacher
Registered
01/10/2003
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3139
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1st October, 2004 at 21:39:40 -
How does using an inferior product help someone inexperienced? The differences between the two apps are minimal. If you have to learn from scratch, you might as well learn on what's most up-to-date, otherwise it's like that episode of the simpsons where the stupid kids are supposed to catch up by going slower than everyone else. Not that there's anything wrong with TGF, it's just that its lack of complexity isn't a reason for using it.
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Crystal Clear (H.E.S)
Possibly Insane
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06/10/2002
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2548
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2nd October, 2004 at 09:18:30 -
Why use it? because MMF would probably just confuse a complete noob.
The differences are HUGE in it, yes there are same editors but the GUI is way different, theres only about a HUNDRED more buttons or so everywhere, lots of sub-windows and toolbars. a complete noob would get completely lost in MMF, while TGF there isnt as much buttons all over the place, less toolbars and its simplified.
Im not saying TGF is better then MMF, but for a noob its alot better.
And remember if he does get TGF and wants something more powerful there is always that nice shiny discount you get off MMF
HES homepage:
http://www.distinctiv-efair.com/heretic/studios
Crystal Clear Productions: http://www.distinctiv-efair.com/heretic/crystalclear
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ChrisB
Crazy?
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16/08/2002
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5457
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2nd October, 2004 at 16:08:26 -
I don't see what's wrong with using MMF if you're a noob. The only problem I can see with it is finding some of the features available in the Picture Editor which are tucked away in menus and vertical toolbars - and that's not a big problem if you use PS(P) for your graphic.
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ShadowCaster
Possibly Insane
Registered
02/01/2002
Points
2203
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2nd October, 2004 at 21:50:49 -
I concur again with Radix and FireMonkey.
Learning TGF doesnt make learning the software easier, it's just learning a different piece of software that you find easier because that's what you learned first.
If you start with MMF you'll find it just as easy to learn than if you started with TGF... The only difference being that MMF is more powerful and more current, so it's better to learn MMF from the start anyway.
Mike
"Now I guess we're... 'Path-E-Tech Management'" -Dilbert
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