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24th November, 2004 at 02:55:57 -

How many of you really care about the sound system of a game? I mean we have all these graphics cards with "even better graphics than ever possible before!" but nobody seems to talk much about sound.

I'm personally a lover of good sound and I think it's kinda sad when you got superb graphics only to have bad voice acting and music. Personally, I think sound's been kinda ignored. We've had so much focus on making screens flatter and clearer, but we still mostly use stereo.

So, who among ye would bother to purchase, say... a cheap $40 surround sound headset? Seeing how much I've spent on graphics cards, I probably would. I'm kinda hoping to be able to make one of those 'virtual reality' helmets that comes with a monitor on the helm as well as surround sound as soon as I graduate. Only prob is 'health risks'. But since Sony Walkmans pound lots of loud music directly into consumer's eardrums, I don't see why my idea would be any more dangerous...

 
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24th November, 2004 at 05:32:13 -

i love sound but only if its *really* good. Halo 2 amped up so you can hear it down the road is beautiful. and who can forget the soundtrack to the Turrican games?

im not too bothered by bad voice acting but good music is very important it REALLY helps set the scene for me.

Music is so underrated.

 
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24th November, 2004 at 10:15:08 -

I'm taking sound pretty seriously in my Zombies Now game, I think sound is important in a horror game, and the more subtle the better.

 
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24th November, 2004 at 12:12:38 -

Sound is important - and is also being taken seriously in Terminal Orbit, using Directsound 2 as you pan across a battle it pans from one speaker to the other accordingly, and gets louder and quieter as it goes past too. Sounds a lot better, imagine how crappy it would be if every sound was the same volume, even battles way off on the other side of the map!

 
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24th November, 2004 at 12:48:27 -

Yeah Tigs, I been using your Directsound object to make the moans of the zombies sound ominously quiet when they're further away. Beats using mutiple volumed wav files.

 
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24th November, 2004 at 13:18:07 -

I have done distance proportional sound (anyone used inverse square as it should be done?)using DMC2 in Riot 3. If your really smart the doppler effect is quite possible too .

I have got some decent Philips Stereo Speakers (100 watts rms) rather than some 7 watt surrund sound satelleite things, and they sound sweet .

 
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24th November, 2004 at 14:05:53 -

Asparagus, if you want I can send you the early version of DirectSound 2. It has panning on positioned sounds, sounds attached to objects, etc. but some features are still missing (like effects).

 
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24th November, 2004 at 14:09:02 -

Please dude, yeah that'd be sweet. I haven't a use for the effects yet anyway.

 
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24th November, 2004 at 14:58:22 -

What efects do you have planned for direct sound 2? I guess Echo is one...

 
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24th November, 2004 at 15:57:55 -

I thought Echo was in Directsound 1 anyway? I can't check cos I'm at work, but I seem to remember doppler, flanger, echo and about 4 others.

 
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24th November, 2004 at 16:36:58 -

I dont use mmf so i didnt know...

 
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24th November, 2004 at 17:39:49 -

DS2 would have the same effects as DS1, but you'd also be able to apply multiple effects, and have effects on one channel instead of global.

 
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24th November, 2004 at 18:00:08 -

Screw sound. I've been playing NetHack for the past week. Sound is good sometimes, but it's hardly vital if you don't suck at game design.

 
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24th November, 2004 at 18:02:51 -

I love a good sound system too, but I had to disable my Dolby Digital 5.1 for gaming because I play at night and live in an apartment complex. A booming subwoofer isn't exactly what your neighbors want to hear at 1 am. lol.

 
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24th November, 2004 at 18:29:23 -

i live in a detached house in the middle of a field/garden effort with some pretty damn good insulation. windows shut i can play my PC system at its loudest and hear nothing outside and im running some very powerful Wharfedale speakers... alright its only 2 and a sub. but until i get a 5.1 game im happy with my setup

a little off subject but my mates dad is a headmaster at a local primary school and hes got access to some serious audio equipment, wasnt long till they brought home 2 speakers the size of a small car and an amp so loud that at volume level 2 (out of 10) the neighbours rang the police ... how i want that setup

 
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24th November, 2004 at 19:00:45 -

And to think I'm trying to achieve total silence with my PC when I could just get a massive 5.1 setup. Hey, at least I have this cool case and funky lights now.

 
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25th November, 2004 at 08:06:54 -

my sound system is the best part of my PC, 4 speakers and sub, sounds hot. but it does make you realise that MOST games have pretty shit music/sound effects/voice acting. the only time i crank my sound is listening to REAL music.

 
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25th November, 2004 at 10:07:40 -

I can't really afford a 5.1 setup for my PC even though I got the soundcard for it, but I do have my PC hooked up to my stereo at all times, and it sounds awesome.

 
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25th November, 2004 at 17:01:21 -

Considering the kind of music I listen to I'm sure everyone's very glad it listen to it with laptop speakers.
I used to have some bigger ones, but they 'sploded.

 
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26th November, 2004 at 05:38:41 -

Yeah I've had that problem too.

As much as Sound and playability is key too making games. Sound is bloody awesome. I can't stand MIDI any more. I run all my music through SWF format.



 
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26th November, 2004 at 07:02:21 -

I use crappy little speakers on my PC, but I don't play many games on that anyway.

I have a Dolby Pro Logic 2 something something set up to my tv, and it really does make a difference for movies and console games, timesplitters 2 multiplayer rocks just that little bit hader. I dunno, maybe you tech heads will laugh at my setup, maybe you wont. I really have no idea what a good or bad sound system is.

 
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26th November, 2004 at 09:33:28 -

I select only the best Mods in my collection for my games. Its a shame some click games crash with sound effects, so i dont use them.

Music for me is very important in games, i sometimes replay certain levels in games just to hear a good tune again.
infact im listening to some retro chiptune music right now.

Auf weirdesen monty
Bubble dizzy
Commando
final fantasy 6 battle
final fantasy 4 world map

and all on commadore 64 sid music player


 
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26th November, 2004 at 20:13:49 -

Can someone recommend some decent PC speakers? I've been looking round for a while and can't find anything decent. Good sound quality & bass, not too expensive, not bothered about surround sound. Any recommendations? (Currently I'm stuck with flat panels + subwoofer which doesn't give a good range of frequencies)

 
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6th December, 2004 at 03:06:55 -

Hmm... looks like I have quite a bit of a market for my idea for a business. Portable surround sound system that costs about as much as any other surround sound system - who wouldn't want one for Christmas . Also helps that I understand/appreciate sound systems AND games far more than many of my competitors.

Tigs:
I got a Somic headset last week for only RM20 (about $5). Has a good range of frequncies, suprisingly tough, looks cool, and unlike many other sound systems, it's got a microphone . Best thing that ever came from China.

 
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6th December, 2004 at 03:41:06 -

Doom 3 (heck, even the other Dooms if you're retro) uses sound very well to immerse the player in the environment and to keep them on their toes even when there's no action happening. It's almost vital if your game requires immersion of any level, and it also helps to bring out the overall feel of the game.

 

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6th December, 2004 at 05:18:46 -

id go for some Wharfedale Modus but i have no idea if they're still in production. i got some years ago in a pack of 4 but they're not multimedia speakers. still the best things ive heard hooked up to my laptop

 
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6th December, 2004 at 08:26:48 -

Wharfedale used to make some quality speakers, but the stuff they make now is not up to the qualitity it used to but still good tho .

Wharfedale lintons or dovedales have got to be the best speakers ever, if hooked up to a good decent analogue amp and a decent record deck .

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6th December, 2004 at 17:34:12 -

god yea they've really gone to pot recently, putting thier name to cheap speakers and headphones. bad bad move. but still mine were made back in '94 and still running awesome to this day (i swear twinned up with my Teleton amp (70's)... deadly good combination. but ill hush)

 
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9th December, 2004 at 18:41:54 -

Not many people care for all these sound cards, because everyone knows that SoundBlaster is basicly the best, & as long as you can buy the newest soundcard with the newest speakers for half the price as the newest videocard, your set. I know its not the best, but I use SoundBlaster Live! LS 5.1, with a 5.1 seround sound system.

 
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