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Kris

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6th December, 2004 at 18:08:16 -

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11048&item=8150294100&rd=1

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6th December, 2004 at 18:14:56 -

are you sure they are KLIK games? I still would not buy it either way.

 
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6th December, 2004 at 18:16:37 -

A few of the screenshots are Klik games, and I'm sure there are more

 
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6th December, 2004 at 18:18:42 -

I have most of the games on that first CD already. And not all of them are klik games.

 
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7th December, 2004 at 05:04:46 -

i spy Triumph War...

 
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7th December, 2004 at 05:33:20 -

is it legal to sell your own games via eBay with the starting price being the cost of the medium? say 10p or whatever? if the price rises then its not YOUR fault. assuming you have the non-pro version of MMF.

oh and some bastard had a CD with TOR on it, the OLD version mwhahaha. serves them right.

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7th December, 2004 at 08:29:46 -

You can sell games with MMF standard , you just got to put the logo and stuff on it.

 
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7th December, 2004 at 09:44:26 -

Or The games factory pro

You know, a way to combat any people selling click games and freeware games would be to make games especially for an official Daily click cd that can pay for the server charges. Obviously we can't put our already freeware games on it so we would have to make games for it but it would be worth it.

maybe a competiton for the best game would be an incentive?

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7th December, 2004 at 15:48:59 -

HAHAHAHA! The first link:

"THIS CD IS NOT FOR RESALE!!! COPYRIGHTS OWNED BY THE CREATOR AND ARTIST OF THE 'GAMESQUID' LOGO AND SERIES...'spikeydean' and 'baldyrice' AS IS THIS LISTING"

Since when did this assclown suddenly gain the copyrights?

 
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7th December, 2004 at 17:26:46 -

He also seems to have confused public domain with freeware. The games aren't public domain, as the authors still hold copyright or implied copyright. Unless the author specifically states it, or a certain period is past (whatever that is for software), nothing is public domain.

Still, that just proves he's an idiot, it's not actually illegal. However, the copyright statement is misleading, so it's something he could be reported for. I might do so later.

 
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7th December, 2004 at 17:30:03 -

I think the "expiry date" is 50 years for software, although I could be wrong about that. Claiming that the price is for the HTML menu system and the time spent downloading and collecting is a clever way around it... though I hope he's fooling no-one.

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7th December, 2004 at 17:35:47 -

Okay, you can't send ebay an email unless you're a member, and I can't remember my password (I very rarely use ebay). Um. If anyone would like to report the first listing for me, let me know and I'll write up the complaint. Basically, while what he's doing is legal, he's made some claims about copyright that are misleading, stating that no copyrights are held by the authors of these games. That's GOT to be illegal. Or an ebay no-no at least. Enough to get the listing removed hopefully.

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7th December, 2004 at 17:46:01 -

tell him off, slap his wrists and tell him never to do it again

that is, of course, after you've burnt his house down

 
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7th December, 2004 at 18:09:06 -

Phizzy:
The listing http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11048&item=8150294100&rd=1 (item 8150294100) contains misleading statements regarding copyright. The lister appears to claim to hold copyright over the entire games compilation CD, yet I have identified several of the games from the seller's images and know that this is not the case: the contents of his CD are distributed under the freeware license and the original authors still hold copyright.
Additionally, the seller claims that "All these games are available in the public domain." This is incorrect. These games are freeware; they have not entered the public domain and will not do so unless stated by the copyright holders.
Although it is legal to sell freeware for a small duplication fee, the remarks within the listing are damaging to the rights of the software authors to the point of offensiveness, and I therefore request that the listing be removed.


 
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7th December, 2004 at 19:04:44 -

Another thing to do is everyone should add a notice in their game's menu or installer or whatever saying basically the game is freeware but cannot be distributed without the author's permission. You might want to have a notice saying that you shouldn't have paid for this game. That'll put off any game swipers.

 
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7th December, 2004 at 19:10:29 -

The problem is phrasing it right. I do want my game to be distributed without permission, on websites and such. I usually add a note saying nobody should've paid for it, but the problem is trying to stop it from getting on compilation CDs without discouraging magazines.

 
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7th December, 2004 at 19:14:07 -

Hmm... you're right. Worked out any good wordings yet?

However, if you say not to reproduce without author's permission and give a contact address, wouldn't a magazine contact you anyway if they wanted it on a cover CD?

 
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7th December, 2004 at 23:06:33 -

THis is weird because the person selling the game triumph war didn't even make it.

 
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8th December, 2004 at 04:09:23 -

fucks sake copyright breech 101!

 
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8th December, 2004 at 08:48:27 -

Its unlikey that this person had made all of those games in any case. Theres are 50? or close games in there.

 
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8th December, 2004 at 10:32:19 -

I reported this to ebay yesterday. Awaiting a response.

 
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8th December, 2004 at 11:24:39 -

Check the first link. It's ended... not sure if that was your doing or not (maybe it just ran its natural course, dunno)

 
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