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18th April, 2005 at 05:06:27 -

I'm not sure wot is the best game maker for a beginner


If anyone knows can they tell me wot it is and where to get it

 
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18th April, 2005 at 05:13:36 -

Dark Basic... Errr... Multimedia Fusion of course

 
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18th April, 2005 at 05:51:01 -

You should buy MMF 1.5 Standard to avoid disapointment. If you buy TGF then you will eventually want to upgrade as it is not nearly as powerful as MMF. Definitely do not buy KNP.

You can purchase Multimedia Fusion from www.clickteam.com

 
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18th April, 2005 at 06:04:38 -

Find a warez site!!! Yeah! Warez Site!!!

 
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18th April, 2005 at 06:11:35 -

You don't have to buy KNP. You can download it free on Click Team's site.

 
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18th April, 2005 at 08:10:46 -

Warez is for poor people and wannabe gangsters.

BUY KNP!!!!!!

 
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18th April, 2005 at 08:12:12 -

or wait... isn't KnP free nowdays? i think so... Then you should get it to get some practice before moving on to the good stuff

 
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18th April, 2005 at 08:42:07 -

It's free for "educational purposes" I recall.

Or you download the MMF demo...

 
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18th April, 2005 at 08:50:32 -

Why would you use warez unless you are a ganster,really poor, or a slave sent to work in the fields all day, only being privelaged enough to use a computer for 10 and a half minutes a day. I could understand moneyless slaves doing that. But gangsters and poor people are completely unacceptable.

 
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18th April, 2005 at 09:11:39 -

poor people are completely unacceptable
I agree. They should be gathered en mass and harvested for their organs and neurochemicals.

 
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18th April, 2005 at 10:45:00 -

I was a slave!!! I had to sell myself to slavery due to all my crime against humanity and it's Lord God.
Finally I stopped masturbating and bought Photoshop.

 
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18th April, 2005 at 11:35:00 -

Whoa! Someone who actually paid for PhotoShop

 
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18th April, 2005 at 11:40:36 -

No, feed the poor people to the animals. We can get the immigrants to do their jobs instead.

 
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18th April, 2005 at 14:02:25 -

I know I paid 4 photoshop (A very cheap OEM price)
But at least I have made what our Lord God wants.

Anyway... Why shouldn't be a reason not to pay for photoshop? Are adobe dangerous? Are they frouds? Is this their price is deception?

A neighbor friend which is a devotie told me that stealing that software from adobe as stealing other property from other nation, makes spiritual power of the Israeli people goes to wrong people in hostile lands...

That's for example the reason why Hwaian Beaches are so beutiful... If people in Israel didn't stole pirated copies of photoshop we could get palms in the Israeli seashores which are more beutiful then these in Hawai!

Anyway. Hawai is evil!!! Don't go there!

J/K!!!

 
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18th April, 2005 at 15:06:33 -

"No, feed the poor people to the animals. We can get the immigrants to do their jobs instead."
what a waste, why not pump them with chemicals and eat them up.
then we can throw the immigrants to the animals.

 
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18th April, 2005 at 15:12:07 -

Nastyman... I don't find that to make any sense of all...

What I'm saying is, most people I know with Photoshop have pirated it. And I'm talking about the real Photoshop, not just Elements if that's what you're on about.

Anyway, jayjay asked for the best game maker, not whether Nastyman paid for his photoshop. Or anyone paid for anything...

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18th April, 2005 at 19:03:24 -

Poor people are hungry. So to feed them we need humans. The only humans we can spare are the poor people. I see auto-cannibalism as the way of the future!

 
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18th April, 2005 at 21:37:30 -

What the hell happened to nastyman, I didnt remember him being this stupid. Anyway Warez is a big no-no on this site.


Anyway, don't come here to hawaii, please don't.

 
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18th April, 2005 at 23:34:36 -

giving money to multimillionaire companies like microsoft is a yes yes

 
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20th April, 2005 at 05:16:12 -

Affording stuff is a personal thing. Some people barely make enough to pay their internet bills. Other guys could just go about buying every version of MS Office just because Microsoft don't support the old versions (and the newer ones are shinier).

BTW, methinks the best beginner software would be KNP. C++ if you're poor, creative, and know how to read up on stuff. C++ is easy enough to make a simple text-based game, but quite tiring if you want to make platformers and action games.

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20th April, 2005 at 06:32:26 -

I'm sure it wouldn't be that difficult if you use the Allegro libraries

 
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20th April, 2005 at 08:43:27 -

If you're serious about it, then C++ is the way to go. Starting at KNP has the advantage that you can move on to TGF and MMF when you get better. And making custom engines in TGF and MMF gives you some knowledge of "platform physics" that you could use if you move on to C++.

 
- Ok, you must admit that was the most creative cussing this site have ever seen -

Make some more box arts damnit!
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28th April, 2005 at 20:05:45 -

I say go to your local library and find a book called "3-D Game Creation" (not actually much real 3D programming taught in it ).
Check it out and yoink the CD in the back, it has on it an installer for TGF trial version...Without the time limit

 
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28th April, 2005 at 21:49:31 -

Or look on magazines for a free full version. It happens every now and then.

 
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29th April, 2005 at 21:32:36 -

Back to the topic.

I believe you should learn the language 'Basic' to know the logic about computer game designing. The concept behind it.

Then you should move up to Klik 'n Play, it is just an easier yet less powerful version of Multimedia Fusion. It is a program where you do not have to do much programming, more of an object orientated program where you drag things around and tick events.

After that you can either use MMF or use C++.

 
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29th April, 2005 at 22:31:38 -

I will have to disagree with you felix, Klik and play is no way a step up from Basic.

Klik and play might be described as a 'Game maker' But Basic, is a programming language and as such not so good for a beginner that want to make games.

 
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29th April, 2005 at 23:57:22 -

I started with BASIC, then KNP, and look how awesome I am.

 
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30th April, 2005 at 05:17:13 -

Uh... Basic is way different from Klik N Play. If you program Basic you gotta write your own engine for many things KNP does for you, for example object placement.

 
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Make some more box arts damnit!
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30th April, 2005 at 07:05:50 -

I started with BASIC and then with TGF. I am about 1.2x more awesome than he.

 
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30th April, 2005 at 07:19:59 -

Thanks for your comments folks.

What I mean by Basic is you learn to logic and the concept of game designing, not the skill of it.

Its like learning about the cases of 'if.*event*......then *consenquence*' or 'When.....Then.....And...' and get the general feeling how things should go.

The technical parts in KnP is nothing like Basic, I agree with you Radix.


 
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30th April, 2005 at 07:30:42 -

Oh yeah, CB? I'm so awesome people agree with things I haven't even said yet.

 
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