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29th November, 2005 at 17:53:58 -

Just a quick note, I found the PC Baulders Gate games to be crap, I tried to play them and like them, but didn't. I ten times more fun with 4 PS2 pads and 3 friends.

Strategy games, Advance Wars is probably the most addictive TBS game I have ever played. It's simple, effective, and great fun.

I just want a DS port of Master of Orion 2 with wifi, then my life would be completely over.

 
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29th November, 2005 at 19:47:00 -

Just kidding bout the trendier thing .

Fatal bugs CAN exist in console games. The only difference is that they KNOW they can't fix them with a patch, so they make damn sure that there's nothing wrong with the game when it's out. It's not about hardware commitment, it's about developer commitment. And developers are a lot more commited when it comes to something that makes more profit (and can generate a hell lot more loss with a fatal bug).

By today's standards, the PS2 and Xbox are trash compared to the average $500 PC, which is one of the main reasons that so many people look forward to the 360, PS3, and Revolution. You might need to fork out $1000 for the big, ugly PC to play a console-equivalent, but in a few years, all it takes is $30 and you'll have a graphics accelerator twice as powerful and a PC version twice as pretty as the console version. AND you don't have to go out and buy a new PC 480 to play the latest games.

Games for the PS2 and original XBox will no longer be made in a few years from now, meaning that you've just wasted a whole lot of money on something that's no longer useful. But for PCs, while they may be a bit slow when you neglect to upgrade them, you can still use them for a few years. Heck, I've played Civilization 4 and The Movies on a PC I had BEFORE the PS2 even existed. How much did the whole PC cost me? Only the RM 335 (about $80) I spent on the graphics card + DVD-writer. The rest was salvage . MS and Sony may be selling at a loss now, but in half a decade, their top secret modern technology will be so obsolete, people would just laugh at the specs. And they're still selling at a loss, till the expensive new PS4 comes out.

And on costs, what about the expensive 8 MB memory cards on the PS2? Hardly enough for a fun game. Sure, PC games can't store anything on 8 MB, but there's usually more memory than you ever need to worry about. 120 GB hard drives are cheap these days, compared to the state-of-the-art 20 GB XBox drive, which still won't be enough for The Sims 4.

Sure, you can play X-Com 2 on an XBox if you really wanted to. But just the same, there are ways of playing Resident Evil 4 on a PC.

 
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29th November, 2005 at 20:30:35 -

Fatal bugs CAN exist in console games. The only difference is that they KNOW they can't fix them with a patch, so they make damn sure that there's nothing wrong with the game when it's out. It's not about hardware commitment, it's about developer commitment.
So you say that fatal bugs can exist in console software, but they don't. That's one hell of an argument you have there.

Again, the reason game-wrecking bugs don't exist in consoles is because the standard hardware means that if the game runs for the developer, it'll run for the consumer.

By today's standards, the PS2 and Xbox are trash compared to the average $500 PC
Five-year-old console software, averaging at $500 at launch (five years ago), is equivalent to a present-day $500 PC in terms of gaming. Think about that.

And no, they're hardly 'trash'. Look at Far Cry, a game with excellent graphics by PC standards. It has been ported as a sequel to the Xbox, and from what I've heard it's even better than the original.

You might need to fork out $1000 for the big, ugly PC to play a console-equivalent, but in a few years, all it takes is $30 and you'll have a graphics accelerator twice as powerful and a PC version twice as pretty as the console version. AND you don't have to go out and buy a new PC 480 to play the latest games.
Twice as pretty? I want some of whatever the hell you're smoking.
Console hardware, at least in the last few generations, has been relatively future-proof. They're designed to allow for future developments and generally have many times the processing capacity utilised by launch titles, as demonstrated by the Far Cry example.

Games for the PS2 and original XBox will no longer be made in a few years from now, meaning that you've just wasted a whole lot of money on something that's no longer useful.
Useful for five years, though. And it's not as though you have to throw it out when a new machine comes along. Fuck, I still play my NES and I'm still collecting games I never got to play the first time around. Not to mention the homebrew scene.

Heck, I've played Civilization 4 and The Movies on a PC I had BEFORE the PS2 even existed. How much did the whole PC cost me? Only the RM 335 (about $80) I spent on the graphics card + DVD-writer. The rest was salvage .
"The rest was salvage." Right. So that makes it free? I could build a Gamecube out of parts of other Gamecubes, that means nothing.

And it's four years old, ja? The same age as the Xbox? I can guarantee you the Xbox could play ports of both games without an upgrade.

Oh yeah. There's an Xbox, PS2 and GCN version of The Movies already.

The PS2 is five years old, by the way. Seems unlikely you could have had a four-year-old computer since before it existed.

And on costs, what about the expensive 8 MB memory cards on the PS2? Hardly enough for a fun game. Sure, PC games can't store anything on 8 MB, but there's usually more memory than you ever need to worry about. 120 GB hard drives are cheap these days, compared to the state-of-the-art 20 GB XBox drive, which still won't be enough for The Sims 4.
The X360 HDD is an ordinary sata drive. Why do I get the feeling you don't know what you're talking about? People are already replacing them with off-the-shelf HDDs.

Sure, you can play X-Com 2 on an XBox if you really wanted to. But just the same, there are ways of playing Resident Evil 4 on a PC.
That's wonderfully irrelevant and has nothing to do with your original point, which I'll remind you was "Can't play X-Com 2 on an X-Box 360." But in any case, no there aren't. There are no decently-working PS2 or GCN emulators yet. Hell, the best GCN emu plays like two commercial games.


 
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29th November, 2005 at 20:42:24 -

@ Muz.

So I guess the disappearing bugs in xbox games ive played online were just my imagination. No way the developers could have fixed them with a patch. . .

For the most part, I agree with Radix in almost every way possible .

 
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29th November, 2005 at 21:06:11 -

consoles suck aye? well i suppose i should stop playing F-Zero GX, Smash Bros Melee and Mario Kart DS and play them on my comput... oh wait.

 
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29th November, 2005 at 22:15:10 -

Emulator? I guess there isn't one for DS yet.

 
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29th November, 2005 at 23:22:14 -

there are i believe. They dont play commercial games .

 
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30th November, 2005 at 05:06:36 -

X-Box 360 has some good stuff, perfect dark looks average but it has games like a new ninja gaiden on the horizon. ps3 will have metal gear and the final fantasy series. revolution will have Zelda, Mario, Metroid etc etc. PC will have...high resolution graphics...

PS3 will have the best graphics, slightly better than X360. Revo will have the worst graphics but the most original games, and possibly the best (metroid prime 3 omfg). damn fan boys. im a nintendo fanboy at heart but you can at least admit other consoles have good games. damn kids these days.

dont count on a price drop, you wont get one.

 
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30th November, 2005 at 06:29:37 -

Xbox 360? BAH! That's nothing compared to my customized Xroxsox 453.6 !

 
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30th November, 2005 at 12:08:17 -

Emulators are for pedo's

 
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30th November, 2005 at 13:57:26 -

Flash carts are better

 
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30th November, 2005 at 14:52:46 -

It'd be pretty cool if we could upload MMF games to flash carts.

 
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30th November, 2005 at 15:11:37 -

If MMF could compile to any handheld console, MMF games might actually sell.

 
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30th November, 2005 at 17:26:42 -

Yeah, if it could build games that'd run on like... anything at all, they're be seriously marketable. One day maybe.

 
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30th November, 2005 at 20:38:25 -

But if that feature was added to MMF2 we would have to wait even longer for it. I very much doubt it was be feasible for someone to make an extension that can compile rom images for any given console.

"PS3 will have the best graphics, slightly better than X360"

how so? doesn't it depend on the games? They're supposed to be very close aren't they? Maybe potentially it's better graphically but I don't pay attention to technical crap that comes from the actual companies and the ps3 isn't even out yet.

 
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