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22nd August, 2006 at 20:01:35 -

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If the other hardware is good, or if there are certain replacement chips to take some processing power out of hands, I don't think the processor power matters THAT much.

 
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22nd August, 2006 at 20:08:41 -

I'd have to agree that the PS3 is overpriced and I can't see why anyone would buy one, I mean so far, I don't see a lot of new features that make me really even kinda want it. But also, the Xbox 360 isn't great either. I hate Xbox, I'm so sick of military shooters, and the wii looks new and kinda interesting, but I feel like people think it's stupid because of it's name. And I'd have to agree, Nintendo is the best around at at innovation, whereas the other companies just add woman, gore, and urban combat and sell the same old crap.

 
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22nd August, 2006 at 22:44:48 -

PS3 is expensive not because of the "high power" features, it is expensive because it was made by Sony. If you buy PS3, I bet it will just rot in your room after playing for a couple months because you cant find anymore good games to play. Xbox 360 has a better and cheaper SDK which attracts more developers, also it has many possibilities because it was made by Microsoft. Sony is just a brandname, thier software and hardware sucks.

 
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22nd August, 2006 at 23:03:32 -

"I keep hearing from Nintendo loyalists how cheap the Revolution will be. Well, it's not as cheap as a PS2 or an XBox (both $149 right now, probably $99 this fall) and both of those machines have libraries 100 times larger than the Rev will have on opening day."

That doesn't even make sense. David Wong should stop writing about videogames. He's a crotchety old man (Well, 30) and uses assumptions and correlation=causality arguments to make his points, which usually aren't very coherent and come off as a biased rant.

Why yes, old systems are cheaper, and have many old games, but they're dead and most importantly old. He writes in one article that people aren't content with old consoles then says this? John Dies at the End was a fantastic book but David Wong shouldn't write blogs (Ugh).

 
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23rd August, 2006 at 00:09:21 -

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23rd August, 2006 at 01:16:06 -

Wii is good just because of the low price tag and amusing control system (plus there's the classic controller for those who don't like that).

Pfft.. I still prefer the PC over the other two consoles. As always, the console market is targeted towards casual gamers, which means that guys like me who like the freedom to place 20 hotkeys, aim with a mouse, and have 4 fingers on all the attack buttons at the same time will always be happier with a keyboard and mouse. Besides, I spend all my money on either my girlfriend or my computer and with graduation a year away, looks like my comp will get a serious upgrade once it works .

AND Circy, you can play big multiplayer football games on an old comp and a bunch of generic USB gamepads. The ones with vibration are a bit more expensive, but there are PS2-USB converters. I just figured that out when someone bought me a gamepad on my birthday, and I waste over 4 hours a day on football games now :/.

The X360 and PS3 are practically the same, just because one has better specs and can show 20% more sweat at the same frame rate on a character means nothing. The only real difference I see is that X360 will have Halo, but I'd still prefer it with a mouse on WinXP .

 
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23rd August, 2006 at 01:57:01 -

Even in my Nintendo fanboy days, I would have winced while reading this. It's so apparently obvious he's in league with the gaggles of bobble-headed morons yapping about why everyone should by THEIR favorite console.

As I see it, sure:
-PS3 is WAY too expensive.
-BluRay Technology is a doomed format.
-PS3 has a few hardware development flaws.

That should not keep people from buying it, though. If they have the money, or see the sense in earning and spending that much on a game console, I say let them. It's not his job nor yours to intice people away from buying a PS3. However, I won't be buying one personally until the price point comes way down and a few killer apps are released. That may be a year or two out the gate, but from what I've read and the information I've gathered, the PS3 isn't worth a "release day" buy.

I know it's your friend's purpose to "inform the masses", but he's doing it the wrong way. The whole article was filled to the brim with bias and ill-formed opinion. He did little or nothing to back up his claims, and even if he did, without comparing the two consoles technologically, his article would still sound incredibly "fanboy"esque.

Your friend should leave the hardware reviews up to the pros and find a new day job.

 
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23rd August, 2006 at 02:21:41 -

I wonder if it's okay for people to like different things.

 
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23rd August, 2006 at 02:36:28 -

Dustin: Phredreeke took him out of context. The full quote is this:
About half of gamers have more than one console in the home... if you count PS2 owners who still have their PS1 in the closet and GameCube owners who still have their N64 under the bed. But no more than 20% of gamers have bought two of the current-gen consoles.

And it's not about the price. If that's the issue, we shouldn't be sitting here talking about buying a next-gen machine this year. Just take the money you were going to spend on a next-gen machine and buy a second current machine instead. I keep hearing from Nintendo loyalists how cheap the Revolution will be. Well, it's not as cheap as a PS2 or an XBox (both $149 right now, probably $99 this fall) and both of those machines have libraries 100 times larger than the Rev will have on opening day.


He's just ripping on fanboys.

 
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23rd August, 2006 at 02:48:16 -

i don't even own one console. did own a Nes but thats it.. i stick with a DUal 4ghz PC and hope to god some games will arrive at it.

 
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23rd August, 2006 at 04:52:36 -

Have to admit..
I use to play consoles a lot, but as I got older I shifted to simply playing games on my PC. I don't have to pay for that Xbox live stuff, and I can just leave my PC on all the time and play games whenever I want with a mouse and keyboard (better than a controller imo). And I can upgrade my PC quite cheaply.

In my opinion, the 360 is also overpriced for what it is - I don't see anything about the 360 that is next gen. The graphics are a bit better, but that's all. I played on one in Gamestation and I wasn't tempted to want one. As for the PS3, that is also probably overpriced - but you must be an idiot to judge a console 3 months before it's even released. The Wii is simply something that isn't for me - I don't like exercise, and I don't want to swing my arms around the room.

Basically, Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony have missed a huge chance to actually advance to 'next gen' - they've just made the graphics better and changed their controllers, and claimed that is next-generation. Well it's not really. Gameplay will still be the same on the PS3 as it was on the PS2 - and same for the Xbox and the 360. You still press X to accelerate or w/e don't you? Nintendo have clearly tried the hardest to actually advance and go in a different direction - but I think they've just come up with a random idea thats easy to do, rather than actually thinking about what people really want in video games.

I'd rather play on my Mega Drive/Genesis to be honest

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23rd August, 2006 at 07:21:49 -

If you're going to stay with your PC it could probably cost you more than a PS3, because you'll have to keep buying newer versions of your stuff into eternity. It's like an endless vcious cycle. And Bill Gates is rubbing his hands together and laughing in a dark lair.

But apparently the PS3 is considered not a console but a computer in it's own, which means you might have to buy upgrades every year.

 
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23rd August, 2006 at 07:35:07 -

Zach said: "If you're going to stay with your PC it could probably cost you more than a PS3, because you'll have to keep buying newer versions of your stuff into eternity. It's like an endless vcious cycle. And Bill Gates is rubbing his hands together and laughing in a dark lair.

But apparently the PS3 is considered not a console but a computer in it's own, which means you might have to buy upgrades every year."

Yeah, that TOTALLY makes sense, Zach! Pfft!
If Sony expected consumers to upgrade hardware on a yearly basis, they'd turn into the new Sega. Sega, on the other hand, never required upgrades or addons for their consoles to keep new games running. They merely released CRAP TONS of perhipherals that nobody wanted to buy.

That's the great thing about consoles. You buy the basic setup, then you don't have to buy ANYTHING for 5 years if your thrifty heart so desires. With all the ignoramus stuff Sony has been pulling lately, the last thing that'd keep people buying on release day is the thought of having to upgrade.


 
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23rd August, 2006 at 07:46:51 -

Flava said:Have to admit..
I use to play consoles a lot, but as I got older I shifted to simply playing games on my PC. I don't have to pay for that Xbox live stuff, and I can just leave my PC on all the time and play games whenever I want with a mouse and keyboard (better than a controller imo). And I can upgrade my PC quite cheaply.

In my opinion, the 360 is also overpriced for what it is - I don't see anything about the 360 that is next gen. The graphics are a bit better, but that's all. I played on one in Gamestation and I wasn't tempted to want one. As for the PS3, that is also probably overpriced - but you must be an idiot to judge a console 3 months before it's even released. The Wii is simply something that isn't for me - I don't like exercise, and I don't want to swing my arms around the room.

Basically, Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony have missed a huge chance to actually advance to 'next gen' - they've just made the graphics better and changed their controllers, and claimed that is next-generation. Well it's not really. Gameplay will still be the same on the PS3 as it was on the PS2 - and same for the Xbox and the 360. You still press X to accelerate or w/e don't you? Nintendo have clearly tried the hardest to actually advance and go in a different direction - but I think they've just come up with a random idea thats easy to do, rather than actually thinking about what people really want in video games.

I'd rather play on my Mega Drive/Genesis to be honest.


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I think consoles still have quite a bit more "play" left in them.
Personally, I'd rather be seated in my lounge chair, infront of my TV with a controller in my hand then be stratling a keyboard and mouse, sitting in an uncomfortable computer chair... and my computer chair is pretty damn comfortable as far as most computer chairs go.

While I've found that PC's offer a better setup and gaming experiance for complicated RTS games and precision FPS's, I couldn't imagine playing a good RPG for hours on end without developing some serious ass-sores. Adventure games seem to be better left for consoles too. Don't get me wrong. I loves me some klik side scrolling platformers, but games like Mario, Sonic, Ratchet and Clank, Ect... they just wouldn't feel the same played on a keyboard. Until there's a whole generation that grows up gaming almost exclusively on computers, I think the console industry is going to continue to thrive.

 
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23rd August, 2006 at 07:48:58 -

True true.
Although I'm an FPS person myself - which is probably why consoles don't appeal to me that much anymore. I love games like the old sonic and crash bandicoot and all that stuff. I still have a PS2 and a PSP - but I won't be buying a next-gen console. I'd much rather upgrade my PC.

 
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