Originally Posted by Zezard Well, I'm not very good at laws and such, but isn't there something about warning people who are under a certain age if a site contains pornographics content? Oh, well they could add it anyway, just because it makes tdc look professional.
It's weird that heavy violence- the most inhumane thing in our world- usually get a rating for 15+, sometimes 17+. While sex, the most humane thing- the most natural thing known to man, instantly gains an adult only rating. Why is that? We live in a ultra violent, sexual oppressed society.
I say. If it helps guide the plot forward, use nudity.
Originally Posted by OldManClayton I'm disappointed in the fact that you all think it's acceptable outside of marriage. That's the world for ya I guess. Anywho, laugh all you want at me, I don't care.
We're not going to laugh (well i'm not) for thinking that...
But i hope you don't think any worse of anyone who does fine sex outside of marriage acceptable.
I don't think any less of them (I try not to think less of anyone), but I do think they're wrong. I won't preach to them about it, especially over the internet-- but I still think they're wrong.
And I'm tired of hearing that violence argument. I can't explain it very well, I'm not so great with words, but the way they have it is right. It should rightly get an AO rating, it's for AO. Violence in games I'm not going to argue about, but I kind of understand why it is that way. Extreme violence is indeed inhumane, but.... NARG! I can't explain it. Sex is inappropriate. *sigh* It's like trying to explain the meaning of a nebulous word to a child. (I don't mean that as in you're stupid, I just mean it's hard to explain.)
btw, we do NOT live in a sexually oppressed society. How you can think that is beyond me. I'm not trying to preach, but it should be oppressed more than it is. It's natural, but only for married people. It has no place outside of that.
Originally Posted by OldManClayton I lied--- I came back to this topic. I must say that if those things start surfacing on this site I'm outta here. (not that most of you care) I'm disappointed in the fact that you all think it's acceptable outside of marriage. That's the world for ya I guess. Anywho, laugh all you want at me, I don't care.
I'm really disappointed of your conservative, close-minded view on other people's opinions. Times change. Even if you don't like what a lot of people think, let them think it. I should hope that you don't judge people based on how Catholic they are; to judge someone's character based on whether or not their religion is identical to yours is wrong.
I don't think he was judging anyone else bibin. I believe that sex before marriage is wrong too, and am disappointed at how casually we treat it.
However, Everyone's bedroom is their own business, so I have no right to say what you should or should not do. I hope we all can just respectfully disagree.
. My oh my. "times change" "catholic???" I haven't judged them. And btw, you're judging right there. and "close-minded" is on my retarded phrases list. It's very close-minded to call someone close minded because they don't believe what you do. You're just as guilty of what you're accusing me of as I am! And this is hardly a matter of identicality. The differences in opinion are too great. This is the first time I've seriously had trouble not calling someone a name on TDC. That whole spew you just gave me has been said so many times. And what I'm saying now has been said so many times. Let's not go through with it, shall we? Before this turns into a mess?
Wait a moment... Did you even read what you just said? "I'm really disappointed of your conservative, close-minded view on other people's opinions" Do you not see how hypocritical that is??
Well, you're going to hate me for this... But I'm prayin' for ya. (MWAHAHAHAHA!)
Yea, I know I'm hypocritical too, don't try to throw that at me. But at least I realize it.
Originally Posted by OldManClayton . My oh my. "times change" "catholic???" I haven't judged them. And btw, you're judging right there. and "close-minded" is on my retarded phrases list. It's very close-minded to call someone close minded because they don't believe what you do. You're just as guilty of what you're accusing me of as I am! And this is hardly a matter of identicality. The differences in opinion are too great. This is the first time I've seriously had trouble not calling someone a name on TDC. That whole spew you just gave me has been said so many times. And what I'm saying now has been said so many times. Let's not go through with it, shall we? Before this turns into a mess?
Wait a moment... Did you even read what you just said? "I'm really disappointed of your conservative, close-minded view on other people's opinions" Do you not see how hypocritical that is??
Well, you're going to hate me for this... But I'm prayin' for ya. (MWAHAHAHAHA!)
Yea, I know I'm hypocritical too, don't try to throw that at me. But at least I realize it.
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You pwned him good lol.
You can log off any time you like, but you can't ever leave.
I disagree with it. I believe that sex is there to be enjoyed between two people who love each other, and who have every intention of staying together. That's not how it's always used, but that's how it was intended to be used.
Given that sex would therefore be about commitment, unselfishness, compromise, tenderness, etc, is someone's playing a porn game really consistent with that?
They're feeding their mind with the concept that they can get a high with no commitment, base the entire experience on their own needs rather than those of anyone else, fit the experience around their own personal schedule with no need for compromise, and can do so as often as they like.
There have been studies which are consistent with this; people who routinely watch or play porn can often have real difficulties adjusting to reality when the person they're with doesn't do it like the pornstars do.
So yeah, I believe it's far better to actually work on being a kind, considerate, tender and caring person. You're more likely to get the real thing that way.
See, now he handled it the right way. I blew my top a little too hard. I was just thinking that it's hard to know what to say because people will shut their ears if you don't say it right. Marriage is more than a ritual. It's a commitment. And yes, I think it should be saved for after marriage, not just until you spontaneously decide that this person will be with you for the rest of your life. It doesn't work that way. If you want to keep thinking the way you do, go on ahead. But you'll be sorry when it's happened and your life is a mess. The world is full of dumb people, stupidity, immorality. The only reason you think like that is because that's what you've been fed. And you could say the same thing about me. But we'll see where my life goes when I have standards.
Originally Posted by OldManClayton . My oh my. "times change" "catholic???" I haven't judged them. And btw, you're judging right there. and "close-minded" is on my retarded phrases list. It's very close-minded to call someone close minded because they don't believe what you do. You're just as guilty of what you're accusing me of as I am! And this is hardly a matter of identicality. The differences in opinion are too great. This is the first time I've seriously had trouble not calling someone a name on TDC. That whole spew you just gave me has been said so many times. And what I'm saying now has been said so many times. Let's not go through with it, shall we? Before this turns into a mess?
Wait a moment... Did you even read what you just said? "I'm really disappointed of your conservative, close-minded view on other people's opinions" Do you not see how hypocritical that is??
Well, you're going to hate me for this... But I'm prayin' for ya. (MWAHAHAHAHA!)
Yea, I know I'm hypocritical too, don't try to throw that at me. But at least I realize it.
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You pwned him good lol.
Uh, he did not? I was saying Catholic because it's a catholic viewpoint. I was Catholic at one point in time myself; I'm not insulting him for that. I never challenged your views on sex/marriage order, I challenged the fact that you seemed utterly disgusted that somebody else might have different views on marital/non-marital sex as you do. If that's not what you were trying to say, then I apologize. I have nothing against your religion; again, I just think it's rather rude to act so angry and disgusted at the fact that somebody else might have sex before marriage.
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. My oh my. "times change" 
(MWAHAHAHAHA!)
The world is full of dumb people, stupidity, immorality. The only reason you think like that is because that's what you've been fed. And you could say the same thing about me. But we'll see where my life goes when I have standards.