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7th August, 2009 at 18:15:17 -

You really are a duckhead Adam.

Your "I remember when my brothers made good friends with a "decent girl" from Manchester," story is perhaps one of the most arrogant, narrow-minded posts made on the forum ever.

And yet you probably don't see what's wrong with it.

@ Kai: I hope your daughter is fine and I hope the attackers get their come-uppance. Where do you live in Gtr. Manc by the way?

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7th August, 2009 at 18:22:46 -

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7th August, 2009 at 19:58:13 -

Just noticed this post: Kai my friend, i sure hope they get what's coming to them, in whatever shape or form that is. Going to the parents and/or police is a good start.

The UK is becoming quite an unsafe place for numerous reasons, including the over-crowded prisons, the poor judicial system over here, the governments liberal view to tackling crime, the lack of prisons being built, the unrest in the country due to the poor state of the economy/the governments moving towards a European super-state and losing national identity/lack of justice/lack of immigration control/prioritising all minority groups over white males.

I am not racist but i voted BNP at the last local election, only because it wasn't a General Election and only because i am tired of the same old pathetic politicions running the country into the ground for their own personal gains. I hope it gave the people in power a good kick up the arse but i doubt it did and i doubt i won't vote them again because of this!

Like i said though, hope these punks get what's coming to them!

 
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7th August, 2009 at 22:04:47 -

You know, I don't think that is a situation that was unheard of in the past. It's probably different for big cities, however I know having grown up in a small town that there are a few names you hear that you shouldn't get on the wrong side of. Whether it be a particularly rough family "looking out for their own" or just the kind of person that gets their friends, family and neighbours to fight their battles for them.

Ive had people telling me about something my cousin has done, smashing a window or doing something stupid, like it's my business. I hardly ever speak to my family so I just shrugged my shoulders and told them to speak to them not me.

 
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7th August, 2009 at 22:42:52 -

Ha, yeah i know what you mean. In Tenbury there are a few family names living here and in the surrounding villages/towns that carry some weight; "don't mess with them", "they're hard" etc. Most of it is BULL though, it's just their bark is so loud they put people off trying their bite! I tested this out one night...

 
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8th August, 2009 at 00:42:14 -

Let's face it, our country, the UK, has a bad reputation for people starting fights and generally being scumbag little punks. I hate living in this god forsaken country, since Labour has gone into power in 1997 there have been nothing but problems.

 
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8th August, 2009 at 00:56:23 -

To be honest every country has them. I was recently shocked to find some form of chavette in Switzerland, sat on the back of a bus. She had a ridiculous amount of eye makeup, huge hoop ear-rings, gelled curly hair, a red puffer jacket and had her legs up on the seats as she chewed gum with her mouth open and listened to her mp3 player. Unless she was going to a fancy dress party, I really thought they only existed in the UK.

There was also a crazy drunk woman on a train, but again that happens in most countries, I should think.

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8th August, 2009 at 03:38:59 -

Yeah, there is chav and chavette equivalents in about every countries.
Not that I can really make a generalization like this but UK does seem to have a reputation for having a lot of scum and brawlers. Of course it could be as bad as many other places in the world. Perhaps it's just something that's been communicated through too much bad media and film.

 
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8th August, 2009 at 10:22:12 -

The problems didn't start in 1997 Circy, the problems have always been here.

It was quite funny to watch a repeat of The Likely Lads the other day, which was about violence, crime and the prevalence of drunken yobs getting into fights... I'm not saying the levels of violent crime are not very real and very scary, but simply that have always been there. What I would say has changed though is our reaction to it; the meagre punishments offered to the attackers especially.

@Marko: I'm not going to attack your reasons for voting BNP, but probably your research about them. They are little more than racist opportunists and holocaust deniers. I do think there is probably too much immigration into the country, but only because of our complicated and shameful past (which included owning practically everywhere the majority of immigrants arrive from) and the lack of infrastructure to handle these new arrivals. The ghettoisation of my own particular town (Rochdale) is a frequent topic of debate here, with gangs of white and Asian men seeking each other out to prove their braveness and committing crime as acts of retribution when, for example, an Asian or white girl gets is sexually attacked. The way that Asian families are shunted into the same areas of Rochdale does little but help the 'Asian hard man' mentality because they see their communities as exclaves in a white racist area. "Multiculturalism" cannot exist in such a state.

@Adam: "She had a ridiculous amount of eye makeup, huge hoop ear-rings, gelled curly hair, a red puffer jacket and had her legs up on the seats as she chewed gum with her mouth open and listened to her mp3 player" - oh my God Adam, arrest this woman! She clearly doesn't fit into your skewed view of normal society!

 
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8th August, 2009 at 10:30:37 -

"oh my God Adam, arrest this woman! She clearly doesn't fit into your skewed view of normal society!"

Exactly. Well done, you're finally starting to see sense, Matthew.

 
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8th August, 2009 at 12:02:44 -

I hope your daughter is OK Proton, I don’t know what’s happening with the younger generations. Me and my mates did some ‘bad’ stuff when we was younger, but nothing like I have seen in my area (Birmingham) lately. They go round like pack animals looking for people to attack/rob or to carry out pointless acts of vandalism.

I agree with Chris/Circy the country has gone downhill a LOT since 97. The problems have always been there but the joke of our judicial system is increasing the occurrence and severity of crimes. I don’t think Gordon B could run a booze up in a brewery!

Labour took us to bankruptcy in the 70s (Britain had to go to the IMF!!!) and we are not far off doing that again. Trouble is I don’t think any of the major parties are competent enough to fix the county.

I honestly believe our culture is being changed to help control us, if society continues to decline, they can enforce more police state type laws, more observation of us etc.

p.s. Hope everyone is OK, long time no post here!


 
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8th August, 2009 at 12:25:17 -

She is fine, thanks for everyones asking,
I recently heard of a cast in manchester about a girl called "Sophie Lancaster"

so look it up, it could have been what my little one was walking into,

and.. am I the only one who calls them rodents or Scallys, I know Scally is a manchester word, where I went to college (Darlington - YAY!) they were called
"Little Raffs"
but I prefer Rodents.
here is something I found kinda funny, the rodents that had a go at my daughter and Mrs.Proton, happened to be photographed by Mrs. Proton the week before, because she works alot in the community.
so oh dear me we have the photos, lol


 
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8th August, 2009 at 13:04:02 -


Originally Posted by Matt Boothman
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@Marko: I'm not going to attack your reasons for voting BNP, but probably your research about them. They are little more than racist opportunists and holocaust deniers. I do think there is probably too much immigration into the country, but only because of our complicated and shameful past (which included owning practically everywhere the majority of immigrants arrive from) and the lack of infrastructure to handle these new arrivals. The ghettoisation of my own particular town (Rochdale) is a frequent topic of debate here, with gangs of white and Asian men seeking each other out to prove their braveness and committing crime as acts of retribution when, for example, an Asian or white girl gets is sexually attacked. The way that Asian families are shunted into the same areas of Rochdale does little but help the 'Asian hard man' mentality because they see their communities as exclaves in a white racist area. "Multiculturalism" cannot exist in such a state.


Absolutely. The BNP don't have any credentials and I'm amazed they are picking up support. Sure the current government needs a bloody nose but so do the oppositions, but voting for the BNP isn't going to give them one. The only force powerful enough to really offer any change in Britain is through an uprising of new MP talent who really do take no s**t. But the problem there is it really can't be one or two individuals since they'd be ostracised and that would be that.

I'm sure everyone and their cat knows a story of injustice of whatnot. Where if the police or judges were tougher we'd see some proper results. Case in point for me - the bloke who attacked me got off scott free. It took years of other similar minor court appearances before he was finally caught attempting armed robbery. Or some other little chav who stole his mums car, rammed a police van which resulted in a police chase starting in the city and ending up in the hills around us, hitting a couple of cars parked on the road. 4 police cars sped past our house and a helicopter was called out too. You'd think it was an open and shut case but he got a suspended sentence.

Basically they're all soft twunts.

 
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8th August, 2009 at 16:12:38 -

you cant send these people to jail if there is no space in said jail

 
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