I think you are right! I wish I had at least ONE CLUE why this would be so. It has been years since 2017! Why the HECK will they not give us more updates? Should not the program be nearly done by now!? What is the real issue, anyways!? I have never seen anything like this with ANY company or ANY software development except with RPGds. WHAT GIVES!? Something is wrong! I hope we can get just one clue during the month of June.....
I've been looking forward to Fusion 3, but to be honest, it doesn't really concern me too much that it's taking forever for it to be released, and besides, I'm more happy with using 2.5, and even if 3 gets released, I'm not sure if I'll upgrade to that or not.
I'm confident that it will eventually be released, but I doubt it will be any time soon, and it may or may not be worth the wait.
Honestly, not releasing Fusion 3 was probably the best idea. Other game maker software like Construct have already adopted features like vector graphics support, skeleton animation, and basic 3D. If Clickteam were to release Fusion 3, it wouldn't offer anything new. I'd suspect Clickteam suspended release until they can introduce more unique features.
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If you keep adding features to a program before your release it, it will NEVER be finished! If they were to release it and then make any improvement that they think should be made, we would at least have it AND could look forward to the new features. Speaking of 3D, why could they not have given Firefly a good world editor and included movements, like the ones that come with the normal program!?
WELL......It seems that F3 is back on track..... If you go to Clickteam's site, sign in, and do a search on Fusion 3, you will see some information indicating that its development got restarted...... I have my fingers crossed......
Eh, I am not too invested in Klik for anything serious. Other editors work better for professional use, tho I still go back to Clickteam for nostalgia purposes. As a hobby, using Clickteam products is a lot more fun to me. I am not expecting anything too powerful or mind-blowing with Fusion 3, so I can certainly wait.
Could you please describe the other programs that you use? I would like to look into them. Also, I just wonder why after about eight years there is still no Fusion 3 and why Clickteam is keeping everyone in the dark about it. Just about any other company I know gives updates. For example, the makers of Game Guru MAX always gives updates.
I think there isn't even much demand for Klik anymore. Other than nostalgia. I love the event editor which is why I still would use it for prototypes, but other than that it seems the freely available programs like Untiy, Godot, etc. Are immensely more powerful stable and useful. This isn't 2007 where the best you get was Dark Basic and 3D Game Creator that cost hundreds to thousands. Now people are even creating beautiful and AAA level stuff using Unreal at their home PC. Like Bright Memory for example. The best bet for Fusion would be that it is the best and easiest 2D game development tool for both mobile, PC, and consoles. Otherwise I don't see the point in shelling out the hundreds of currency it will likely cost. Again, I love the event editor and all that and wish Clickteam would modernize everything to compete with Construct at the very least.
You have some great points! There is also Gdevelop, as well. It can even do 3D, if I understand correctly. I am very disappointed that Clickteam could not do FireFly right! They could not even get a good working world editor for it! Whatever Clickteam does, I hope they look around and see all of the competition that exists and then act accordingly.
I really miss the old days. Developers created games for fun, rather than profit. A proper community existed back in the day - it was active, there was always lots of news to write about. The community as it is now has evolved into that of a corporate nature - with the ability to release games via Steam/iOS/Android comes the lack of community interactivity as developers instead spend their time perfecting their games for commercial release, so more people are likely to buy them.
The imperfect stuff, we don't really see much more of anymore - and with competing software offering more features (aside perhaps from an ease of use) I really worry that Clickteam will forever be playing catch-up when it comes to Fusion 3 as the existing competitors fight with each other for market share by constantly updating their software with new features.
Plus, a lot of the old guard have moved on, while for new users there is so much choice out there already when it comes to game development software. I'll always advocate and love Clickteam, but they're going to be left far behind if they're not careful. I sincerely hope that's not the case
There still exist sites such as itch.io. Game Jams seem to be immensely popular. So there are still a lot of people who do it "just for fun". But the nature of the internet is so different now. Gone are the tight knit communities in forums/boards. People tend to favor large conglomerate sites like Reddit these days. I do miss the old days of this site and others. Simpler times.
The Clickteam forum is back now with an updated forum at https://community.clickteam.com/ but some parts of the forum are suffering from "Access denied. You’re not authorized to view this page." errors. The Click Store is down with the error: "We apologize, but ClickStore is temporarily offline for maintenance. Please check back later".
Originally Posted by Indigo Steel Shield I have noticed that, too. Yves talked about a F3 blog, will this start soon? By the way, does anyone think that F3 will come out next year or 2025? Will it even come out before 2030?
No sign of the F3 blog... BUT there was some discussion of Fusion 3 on the official Clickteam Discord. Just head over to #open-topic and look for 'from:simonthewazir' to find the exchange.
Thank you. But from what I was able to see, Simon keeps saying that he is not allowed to talk about Fusion 3? Why? No other company that I know of keeps their customers in the dark like this. I just see no reason what there can not be some reasonable disclosure. Yves said that the blog would come soon, yet that has a couple of months ago, this makes no sense to me.
Originally Posted by Indigo Steel Shield Thank you. But from what I was able to see, Simon keeps saying that he is not allowed to talk about Fusion 3? Why? No other company that I know of keeps their customers in the dark like this.
I expect that it is primarily a combination of the following factors:
1. Wanting the hype to be built up just before release.
2. Not wanting to give rival developers information that could result in them 'stealing' Clickteam's best ideas.
3. Not wanting to raise expectations about things that don't ultimately make the cut.
4. Not wanting to make Fusion 3 seem so close that people don't buy Fusion 2.5(+).
5. Not wanting to take time away from development to consider what best to say and how best to say it to minimise the risks of the above.
Some companies will release information about releases a long time in advance. In some cases this is to build up hype, or to keep people from moving to a rival, to inform shareholders, and/or because they expect it would leak anyway (or perhaps it already had). However, some products are not announced until just before they are launched. For example, when Google announced Gmail beta on 1st April 2004 it took the world by surprise and many thought it was an April Fool's day joke.