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Weston L



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13th October, 2003 at 20:00:19 -

A while back I asked if anyone wanted to see the pictures that I made of what a TGF that edits 3D games might look like.

Well, only one person was interested so I wasn't really motivated to finish them, but now maybe since theres new members to The Daily Click, people might like to see them. They're finished!

www.angelfire.com/games5/socketsink/tgf3d

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14th October, 2003 at 04:09:52 -

Hey nice mock up screenshots! If if only The Games Factory 3D was real..

 
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14th October, 2003 at 04:24:57 -

The screenshots are well made, but the interface looks horribly confusing... it's going to be difficult to make a GF-style 3D editor.

 
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14th October, 2003 at 04:44:58 -

It should have 4 viewports.

 
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14th October, 2003 at 06:01:45 -

too confuzzling


 
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14th October, 2003 at 08:22:17 -

Rofl
Yeah, only if it was real..

 
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14th October, 2003 at 11:13:58 -

nice avatar mutantleg!

 
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15th October, 2003 at 07:43:47 -

Why TGF? Why not MMF?

 

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15th October, 2003 at 07:54:49 -

hey that doesnt look confusing compared to mmf

 
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15th October, 2003 at 08:11:59 -

Why not MMF?, because the mmf interface stinks and thats why in MMF2 they are moving away from that GUI (People cant say its good now).

4 viewports are needed as fishhead said, and you should be able to minnimize and maximize each viewport.

Snap to grid would be needed as well as user definable grid sizes.

Plus a texture manager, cant have non textured gourad shading can we

 
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15th October, 2003 at 11:42:02 -

Haven't you ever heard of MMF3D?! X(

 
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15th October, 2003 at 13:36:53 -

'thats why in MMF2 they are moving away from that GUI'

That's why they're not, just making it one window at a time. TGF interface is unusable for me

 
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15th October, 2003 at 15:06:36 -

tgf and mmf are unusable for me, but mmf is more unusable.

thats why my coding is crap.

 
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15th October, 2003 at 15:52:57 -

Sorry it's a bit too bright for me. a bryce-ish 'sleek grey' would be nicer

 
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15th October, 2003 at 17:38:19 -

Definately agree there Kris. Nothing suits a 3D editing package more than a dull grey background, it seems strange... But it's true... To name a few examples (one's I'm trying to use just now) Medal Of Hono(u)r editor, Unreal tournament editor, Genesis 3D, forgot other one.

Ah well no point debating when it's not true!

oh yeah other one is Truespace (crap IMO).

 
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15th October, 2003 at 17:59:47 -

Thanks for the good comments everyone. HagarTech, You were right about the "Why not MMF" comment. Chris Branch, Yes I have. Kris, the 3D was made in Bryce 3D, but I'm sure if TGF3D was made you could make your graphics however you wanted

Oh yeah, and about the 4 viewports, I was thinking you could click on that camera icon and cycle through them like in Bryce 3D.

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19th October, 2003 at 20:03:24 -

Clickteam and Conitec should combine MMf/TGF and (Conitec's) 3d Game Studio and they would have , what I would say is, the best program ever! It would probably look alot like your piture, too.

And by the way, It's not like I'm not really expecting you to know who Conitec is but you might want to check them out. Go to: www.conitec.com/a6info.htm

 
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20th October, 2003 at 04:06:24 -

In my opinion, UnrealEd is the best 3D world editor that I've ever used - you might not think it when you first use it, but the subtractive method of building is nothing short of genius.

 
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20th October, 2003 at 05:09:10 -

Looks cool, but nothing mmf 3d won't have.

 
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20th October, 2003 at 09:45:01 -

I think that the icons of the rotation, movement in 3D etc ar too big anyway, but this seems real! Cool work!

 
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20th October, 2003 at 09:57:59 -

I love the Morrowind Construction set. It's so easy to use it's almost funny. Too bad most of the functions don't work on my computer. *shrugs* maybe I just need to re-install.

 
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24th October, 2003 at 05:46:30 -

Weston L: Thanks, we have same opions .

Red Crystal: TrueSpace, is one of the best for pure mesh creation, IMO. Its sucks when it comes to effects though, its purely for modelling.

Shen: why have they completely recoded the GUI, for fun perhaps?, and circy said its gone very much like tgf again. Maybe i misread hos article wrong, i doubt it though. Anyway its all opinion, and IMO i despise the MMF GUI.

And i have tried moving, I unistalled TGF for 4 weeks vowing never to go back. 4th week mmf was unistalled and TGF went back on .



 
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24th October, 2003 at 05:54:09 -

...i have been "forced" to use mmf couse tgf has begun loading dialog boxes(eg. expression-editor) in the background so i cant get em

 
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24th October, 2003 at 06:05:02 -

MMF is alot better then TGF and the GUI is great. Its a pitty some people find it confusing.

 
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24th October, 2003 at 06:40:18 -

I still cant work with the mmf gui, but I love all the options tgf doesnt have.

 
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24th October, 2003 at 07:03:57 -

No matter how you set up MMF you still have to keep closing/minimizing moving windows

eg you maximise the animation editor to do some serious animation, when finished you have to

1. restore
2. close.
3. press ok to save changes.

In tgf

1 click ok.


If i writ a windows app at uni, with a GUI like that i would fail, and i am not joking .

 
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24th October, 2003 at 07:05:10 -

ps i dont do windows stuff, mainly ms dos based console stuff btw.

 
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26th October, 2003 at 16:11:06 -

I like MMF's interface more then TGF's. I don't know what it is, I just think its because all the windows seem to give me a feel of having more power over my games. :-\

 
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26th October, 2003 at 16:16:00 -

1. restore
2. close.
3. press ok to save changes.

1. You mean you don't have the windows maximised all the time?
2. It's a button
3. You can turn it off very easily, haven't you heard of Preferences?

 
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26th October, 2003 at 16:54:45 -

damn you MMF interface haters. damn you to interface hating hell. MMF's interface is obviously superior, just read my article about it.

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27th October, 2003 at 01:56:44 -

Jeez, that looks more complicated than the procedure they used to make the prototype monkey man (aka Circy).

 
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27th October, 2003 at 05:24:50 -

No MMFs interface is not superior, its naffer than a mouldy pair of Y fronts weared by the one and only Mr Bean.

If its 'obviously' so good why are they completely re writing it for MMF2 and making it more like TGF. Maybe its becuase its superior .

Anyway Petes a piece of Cheese.

Anyway its opinion and i think its stinks.

 
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27th October, 2003 at 08:23:01 -

Yeah it stinks! I dont want stocks in mmf! but I own stocks in clikcteam, so I will order them to create MMF3d2! HAR HAR HAR!

 

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27th October, 2003 at 13:42:04 -

Um, right. They will create MMF 3D whether you order them to or not.

 
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