Hi All
I need someone to give me a hand with something...
I'm looking for a new graphics card around the AUD$300 mark. At present I'm checking out the Leadtek A360 TD 256MB ($325) and the Asus ATI Radeon 9600XT 128MB ($341).
The Leadtek has a GeForce chipset, whereas the Asus has a Radeon. Does anyone have any opinion on what, out of these two, or otherwise, would be the best card to get at around that price (AUD)?
I'm told Radeon's are generally faster than GeForces, but I'm concerned about the Asus only having 128MB on-board RAM, whereas the Leadtek has 256MB.
Anyone have any thoughts on which is better? Or if you think I should go for something else entirely?
Mike¿
"Now I guess we're... 'Path-E-Tech Management'" -Dilbert
Might I suggest the Krypton 460 PE 256MB. My friend got one of these and swears by it, and he's pretty fussy when it comes to these sort of things. Costs about AUD$299, I'd be asking your retailer about that one.
Hope I helped!
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Show me the power child,
I'd like to say,
That I'm down on my knees today,
Gives me the butterflies,
Gives me away,
'Til I'm up on my feet again,
I'm feeling outshined.
Gee, well then my fantasy is doing a great job in my friends computer. This is what I get for trying to help once in a while and people wonder why I'm always so mean... for shame!
Show me the power child,
I'd like to say,
That I'm down on my knees today,
Gives me the butterflies,
Gives me away,
'Til I'm up on my feet again,
I'm feeling outshined.
Do smiley faces not convey the same meaning as they used to? *sigh*
I searched Krypton 460 PE 256MB on google world-wide (no quotes or anything) and only got two results... both from the same server, of a page with nothing on it. Well, not literally nothing... nothing useful. Did you spell everything right?
Mike¿
"Now I guess we're... 'Path-E-Tech Management'" -Dilbert
I don't think it has the MB in the name and I may have gotten the numbers around the wrong way but it's something like that! Ask your dealer (not of drugs of course what would your mother think) if he has anything like that.
Show me the power child,
I'd like to say,
That I'm down on my knees today,
Gives me the butterflies,
Gives me away,
'Til I'm up on my feet again,
I'm feeling outshined.
Nup, I cant find Krypton anywhere. Well, I found two places called Krypton; the first was a NZ company which builds custom computers and have a picture of a tractor as their backdrop, and the second was a company that sells ergonomic chairs.
Can you ask for a URL, plz?
Mike
"Now I guess we're... 'Path-E-Tech Management'" -Dilbert
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9th January, 2004 at 14:16:07 -
Save more 300$ and buy a Nvidia Geforce FX 9950 256MB which rocks but is near 700$ which makes it too ...........!!!!!!!!!!!
While we're on the topic...
Anyone know where to get any Geforce or Radeon for 50$ CANADIAN or less?
Cant run SAVAGE without
Oh yeah and 50 bux or less because.....
THATS ALL I HAVE, KIDDOS!!
i think the best radeon and best geforce are almost exactly the same performance wise but the radeon is slightly more expensive £350/£300 (thats uk price)
i recently bought a geforce fx 5600 256mb replacing a geforce 4 mx 64mb
i has made no difference that i can see with my games and cost me £180
mabye its the crappy celeron slowing me down.
www.newegg.com is a great place to find low priced computer parts. Radeon cards will generally run games which make use of pixel and vertex shaders faster than Nvidia cards.
99 percent chance that the above post is 100 percent correct.
I don't know much about hardware, so I'll just recommend the Radeon 9800. Not that much more expensive, so I'm getting it pretty soon.
I don't think there's much of a difference between brands. The main difference would only be in reliability, price, and maybe some of the features. So, I'd recommend you go for the 256 MB.
Ah... I still remember the good old days when the best 3D card I could afford had a whopping 32 MB (or was it 64?). 'Twas exactly a year and two months ago.
Disclaimer: Any sarcasm in my posts will not be mentioned as that would ruin the purpose. It is assumed that the reader is intelligent enough to tell the difference between what is sarcasm and what is not.
my response would be. Waint until computer cpu gets more general with the new 64bit. Then upgrade to 64bit and buy a 64 gfx card. then urll get the best co-op work between them
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Do the drivers really matter? What makes a Radeon or G-force better than um... anything else on the market?
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Like I said, the Radeon cards run games which use shaders faster than Nvidia cards, this has been proven in benchmarks. Most modern games will be using shaders so get a Radeon.
99 percent chance that the above post is 100 percent correct.
The new GeForces are also not DX9 compatable.
Use the CineFX? I think that's Nvidia's newest line. Be warned though, they are EXTREMELY loud. I had to upgrade to play the Doom 3 test.
Craps, I'm an old man!
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10th January, 2004 at 14:41:00 -
Yes they are DirectX 9.x complatible. But I don't know the CineFX...
I would have to protest on the subject of the Nvidia chipset.
My younger bro bought a brand new radeon 32mbs and it sucks at running games compared to my older bro's Nvidia 32mb
card...
I swear by the Nvidias!!! lol....
I bought a brand new ASUS V9520/TD GeForce FX 5200 128mb 8x AGP gfxs card and I love it!
I think I payed about $139.00 Canadian Not sure if thats a good deal or not :S
And since Im on the subject of my computer... I will tell you what I upgraded and payed
I was running an AMD 300Mhz system with a Nvidia 32 mb card AGP...Slow...SLow ...SLow
BTW did I tell you it was slow?
Anywayz, I upgraded to a AMD XP 2600+ processer for about $150 Canadian.
I got a MSI K7N2 Delta with a Nvidia nForce 2 Chipset Based 5.1 Audio Channel
AGP 8x support 128bit memory bus for $130 Canadian which later on I found
that It should have cost me $210 Canadian
And finally I got a 512mb PC3200 DDR RAM for $85 Canadian
Does it look like a good deal?
Thanks
Kenley
Oh and ya... Nvidias are awesome! Get one with that type of chipset don't you think ShdowCaster?
"I have dreamed a dream... But now that dream is gone from me."
Could be drivers, maybe it's over heating, look at the card and if there are strange bumps on top of the parts it's probably blown something.
I heard that the MB in a graphics card doesn't matter and incredible amount-128mb is better than 32mb of course, but anything above that doesn't matter unless you are running full screen DVD on a 6000x5000 screen.
Well Lev thats wrong. simply wrong. Sorry bout that
But increased Megs are used for decreasing ingame loading times
like if ur card doesnt use compression the textures fills up huges amounts of space.
But a 256mb can preload alot much and more alot more that a 128
if ur card uses compression! It preloads even more and alot even more than before
- Eternal Life, Or Your Money Back -
http://www.befun.dk/
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12th January, 2004 at 01:20:19 -
I am going to buy new motherboard, processor, graphics gard and more memory, but i haven't enough money for all of them! Which I should buy first? The compatibility is problem. If I buy now e.g. new motherboard and my old processor doesn't fit it. Btw. what kind of memory does motherboards use nowadays? And are the all (modern) graphic gards compatible with all modern motherboards?
Edit: And what effects more to watching divx movies, new processor or new graphic card? (I have 1Ghz and GeForce II)
ShadowCaster ... it seems there a lot of users not knowing a thing posting here ... and few knowing something.
The Leadtek A360TD is based on the new Nvidia GeForce FX 5700 chip. Its a faster replacement of the disappointing FX 5600 card that was clearly slower than the Radeon 9600 PRO. The new GeForce FX 5700 brings Nvidia on an equal level with ATIs Radeon 9600 PRO/XT. Which one is better is not that easy to tell. One card will lead a bit in one test, the other in another. It is a fact though that the Radeon card generally leads in more test, especially in DX9 tests. Radeon cards seem to perform better with DX9, antialiasing and anisotrophic filtering than GeForce FX cards do. While nvidias driver release 5x.xx seems to have improved things I still feel that at present time a Radeon card is the best buy. And Im even an old Nvidia fan way back with TNT, TNT2, Geforce 2 PRO, Geforce 4 TI4200 cards in the past.
The Leadtek may have 256 mb ram ... but forget that. No game today can use 256 mb ram. Even though you have it, it will not be used. By the time 256 mb ram is really necessary you most likely want a new graphics card anyways.
Oh, and a really good and serious english based website to find about hardware is: www.tomshardware.com .
These guys test beta hardware as well as the retail stuff and they know what they do. They are the ones who made AMD change their thermal diodes in the Athlon XP, as they showed what happened when the cooler was removed ... the cpu simply burned to death ... 300 degrees celcius ... auch!
They also dicovered that MSI had implemented a smart (and well hidden) FSB overclocking facility in its recent motherboards giving them higher scores in tests. And lots more. They also do frequent buyers articles with recommandations to what to buy ... in case you need a computer and dont know what to buy ...
Indeed. You can easily make drivers that run a game real slow no matter how fast the card is. Also back when the first Radeon cards appeared (7xxx and 8xxx series) ATI had a lot of driver problems. Many (at that time new) games had severe grapchical distortion.
Fenner[Crazy_Productions]: "Ahh crap my Radeon 9600XT card keeps corrupting the graphics in 3d games. anyboby know why this is?"
It could be a lot of things. First of all, is it all games? What games are you playing? Do you use the latest driver from ATI?
If its all games its most likely a problem with drivers. Make sure you use the latest. Make sure you have the latest bios for your motherboard. Check for drivers to your motherboard.
-Pyry-: "a-lot-of-words"
Simply wait a while until you have more money. Then buy at least a motherboard, cpu and ram at once so that they match in speed. The graphics card could wait a bit. A GeForce 2 is not all outdated yet.
All new graphics cards will run with any new computer.
Cpu power is most important when watching divx/xvid/mpeg/etc movies.
A 256 meg card will only perform better in games which make use of it. Most games today don't need 256 megs, and won't see a performance increase. New and future games will see an increase from a 256 meg card.
99 percent chance that the above post is 100 percent correct.
HOSJ, The only trouble with a GeForce FX 5200 is, if you give it a DX9 game to play it will run it around 5-20 fps, which is to say the least, unplayable.
Bear in mind. If a game really needs 256 mb on your graphics card to run, it most likely also requires something faster than a Radeon 9600/GeForce FX 5700 chip. I would NOT EVER buy a graphics card with 256 mb unless its at least a Radeon 9800/GeForce FX 5950.
Thanks guys ^__^ I got the GeForce for $300 even after some searching. I can now play POP: SOT (which I did all this afternoon for about 10 hours straight, because it is the best game ever ).
BTW I generally found that while Radions are faster, they are less reliable than GeForces. I guess it depends on which you think is better in the long run. As for me, I chose reliability.
Mike
"Now I guess we're... 'Path-E-Tech Management'" -Dilbert
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Not sure if thats a good deal or not :S
