Peblo:.. you havent been goign to TGP have you? I used to be known as "vibrantdarkness". I was a member of the staff for 2 years(until they just redid the site). Only reason i'm not on the staff page at the moment is because i've taken a break from making games. Anyway, you guys should reread- i did not claim MMF sucks or any of the sort. Just saying GM deserves *some* sort of respect .. i dont even care if you dont use it.
No, you claimed that it was unequal to your lousy program; you also imply that we are illiterate losers who are, arrogant, and immature 'newbs'.
That’s a lot of name calling for someone trying to get people to respect their opinion.
Now, since there has been no support for you as of yet, I'm going to go out on a limb here and speak for all of us when I say that we:
1. Have read your posts
2. Evaluated GM as an alternate program for game making.
3. Prefer MMF
4. Defend click Products
5. Do not like to be called names
5. Do not appreciate mockery of someone who has no knowledge of the working of TDC nor our inside jokes, e.g. stocks.
If you had just said that "GM deserves *some* sort of respect" in the first place instead of the immature approach you took, we would have no problem.
Steve Zissou: Anne-Marie, do all the interns get Glocks?
"You should know that the Game Maker also produces smaller exe than MMF since you need the runtime dll, and GM doesn't since all the runtime code is integrated on the exe."
This means that you only use one dll file for 50 MMF exes while you have 50 "runtime codes" inside 50 GM exes, which means that the GM exe will eventually be much larger than the MMF exe.
Also, that Game Maker DLL page had nothing whatsoever on PNGs. PNG is one of the best picture file formats out there to use because it can make small picture files while sacrificing barely any (if at all) quality.
Woah TO is looking great tigs, i still think you should replace those units graphics, they just dont seem to blend with that delicious terrain.
And i would also like to see something like TO done in GM
ive used Game Maker before, and have played many games created with it, yes its a great product, but in my oppinon id take MMF over it anyday.
"and can do ANYTHING that MMF can do so far(including a much more stable method of online play which isnt very difficult)."
Have you seen the MMF extension list? i saw the GM DLL list and LMAO MMF has basically all of those plus alot more.
"I've heard the arguments "But wahh MMF has extentions".. why does it have so many extensions? Because the base program isn't as complete."
No its because its to make MMF Expandable, just like the whole point of DLL's in GM
"Say you're hanging from a huge cliff at the top of mt. everest and a guy comes along and says he'll save you, and proceeds to throw religious pamphlets at you while simultaniously giving a sermon." - Dustin G
JP's right. There's nothing wrong with the idea of this topic per se, but your 'approach', RC, leaves something to be desired. Your tone suggests that you were accusing everyone here of bashing gamemaker, which I very much doubt is true. It's also unfair to label everyone in a community like that. If you go in with the intention of starting a one-on hundred argument, don't expect to make anyone think a little differently at the end.
"No, you claimed that it was unequal to your lousy program; you also imply that we are illiterate losers who are, arrogant, and immature 'newbs'. "
Dude.. Where the hell are you coming from? I made 5 posts/replies on this topic. Read them. You're not really making any sense. you should clear your mind before reading other replies, and then read *my actual posts*. and.. "Your" lousy program? There's no such thing as "my" and "your" program. That comment was so entirely rediculous and immature. I use MMF too.. I've *been* using MMF(for almost 7 years.. well.. KNP/TGF/MMF). I can think it's unequal, that's a matter of opinion. How about having an intelligent discussion about it instead of actually getting angry. And BTW, a lot of my friends are very formidable game makers here at this site. In fact, I've been going to this website for about 4 years, and I used to post under another name. I've even helped with a lot of game projects that you guys see on this site.
I never implied that this entire community were newbies or were arrogant; i just imply that there are a lot of people here that are(and, if you're going to defend *everyone* in the community.. then go ahead because i will scoff at that). when i said "you guys", i was reffering to the people that DO THAT. Having an angry mob mentality because a few other people are overly fanboy-ish of a *game making company*(the immature ones) doesn't make the situation much better. In fact, I don't even use game maker OR mmf to make games anymore; i use C++. Even if I am not a regular poster here(or, i'm a 'lurker' as they say), I don't think making a post with my opinion on it is such a blatant thing to do. Isn't that what forums are for? It's not like I am writing hate letters(or, even writing *about* hating) to clickteam or about clickteam products or about the daily click.
Where am I coming from?
This is where I'm coming from:
Illiterate: "Anyway, you guys should reread"
Losers: "dictating who enters a virtual world, loser"
Arrogant: "learn to use it and stop being an arrogant newbie"
Immature:
Newbs: "learn to use it and stop being an arrogant newbie"
Added to the list:
Stupid: "you don't even understand anything"
That is where I am coming from.
“There's no such thing as "my" and "your" program”
"Your" is referring obviously to the product you are defending.
"That comment was so entirely rediculous[sic] and immature"
Coming from a guy who started a thread full of immaturity, my comment is how I feel about Game Maker compared to MMF. Neither immature nor a personal attack.
So far I haven't made any irrational posts and have described to you why no one is on your side after you "ma[de] a post with [your] opinion"
My point is that went in the wrong direction trying to get your opinion across, now you have no credibility.
Steve Zissou: Anne-Marie, do all the interns get Glocks?
The subject of this thread and the location he placed it under in TDC's board system shows just how smart he really is... I mean, why post it in the Code-It area?
If you really want an admin to inspect (and possibly deal with) this topic, then contact them =P No offense, but 'flapping your arms' in this topic alone isn't going to alert them.
"i saw a post today about GM vs MMF.. and sometimes, you guys are SO CLOSEMINDED.. judging something as instant crap just because you don't know how to use it"
i think i know the topic you are reffering to, that person claimed gamemaker to be way better than mmf and put it too us even worse than you did RC.
anyway i have used gamemaker and didnt like it, i will admit it didnt try it for long and never touched the spripting but i still prefer the click products. As long as i can make the games i want to, i will continue to use them.
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.. i dont even care if you dont use it.
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