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6th September, 2005 at 12:23:14 -

My computer just reboots itself sometimes and I don’t know why. I thought it might be a virus. I checked my computer with AntiVir Guard, Trend Micro Housecall, Ad-Aware and Spyware Doctor and couldn’t find anything at all. So does anybody know a virus that could cause that/a virus scanner that could fix that OR the reason for that? Could it be a damaged hard drive. It’s a SATA hard drive and only 5 month old but I think it makes some odd noise sometimes. I don’t know so I am asking you.

 
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6th September, 2005 at 12:52:50 -

Do you not get any form of error message? Random reboots are caused by overheating components amongst other things. If you're overclocking you should revert. If you're not overclocking, check your fans and such like, make sure they're all working.

I'd say if the hard drive were damaged your PC wouldn't work at all. Do you have any reason to think that it's damaged? (apart from the noise, sometimes I get that from my external one and it's fine)

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6th September, 2005 at 13:20:24 -

Sounds like you CPU might be overheating, check your CPU temps in your BIOS, if it is overheating, replace the Heatsink & Fan as soon as possible.

 
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6th September, 2005 at 13:55:26 -

Also check the temp of the motherboard itself, I had a similar problem which was caused by the fan on the mobo which had stopped working.

 
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6th September, 2005 at 17:29:45 -

oh yeh that could probably be the reason. i dont get an error message at all. i am using an AMD which can be overclocked but I am not overclocking at all but I guess my coolers are shit and it got pretty hot lately. I will check that

@Alex: "Sounds like you CPU might be overheating, check your CPU temps in your BIOS"
What exactly do I have to look for? What is written there and what will tell me that it overheated

@colej_uk: Also check the temp of the motherboard itself
Same thing. What should it say. I am not sure if I exactly know what I should I should see there/what is good to see in the bios motherboard temp

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6th September, 2005 at 19:45:44 -

I think the bios usually tells you the heat of the processor. I don't know if you can find out that information in windows somewhere. I think the bios tell you the rpm of the fans so if one is broken you'll know.
I'm not too sure whether the bios will tell you much.

 
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6th September, 2005 at 20:17:18 -

Okay this time I was just using MMF and WinAmp and NOT on the Internet at all (disconnected) and my computer suddenly froze/the music sounded like a broken record and repeated the last second that had just played over and over again so I had to reboot it..
I also have to say I am using a VERY old 15 inch screen since some company is fixing my other screen for about 5 weeks already. Probably it’s the old screen’s fault?
I checked my cooling under H/W Monitor in my Phoenix-Award Bios and I turned the Smart CPU and Smart NB Fan on (both were disabled). I set those to 50°C/122°F.
My Current System Temperature was 42°C/107°F
Current CPU Temperature was 68°C/158°F
NB Fan Speed 4720 RDM
CPU Fan Speed 3879 RDM

Is that all okay or fucking to hot or anything else?
Any case nobody has a clue does anybody at least know some other forum I could ask at? Ha well I hope you people can help me since it gets very very annoying when your computer just shuts down/freezes while working on a game.


 
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6th September, 2005 at 20:26:14 -

-- and i ran a search on the microsoft website http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.mspx#run if i got the worm blaster but i dont

 
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6th September, 2005 at 20:30:58 -

My CPU idles at 38C. That's quite a bit lower than yours but the threshold is still 80C on mine. Whatever the problem is, it's not the monitor.

 
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6th September, 2005 at 21:13:34 -

and its also not the cooler?
so the temperatur is fine? i have got big noise-mats inside my computer so i can imagine it gets hotter inside there than without those noise-damming-mats but you read how hot it gets

 
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7th September, 2005 at 03:07:36 -

I had loads of problem when I installed my first SATA drive and wanted to have it as my C: with windows and all that on it. Windows keept freezing, crashing and also the harddrive even formated itself once.

I had to reinstall windows and in the installation when it says press F6, I had to press it and insert a floppy disk with some drivers I got of the manufacturers site and install them. After that when I actually got into windows I updated my bios and that really helped me. Before it had problems detecting the SATA drive on boot-up but that's all gone now.

So you could try updating your bios, there's usually some kind of auto updater app on your motherboard manufacturer cd.



 
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7th September, 2005 at 10:36:39 -

thats a great idea
which bios are you using

 
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8th September, 2005 at 03:11:52 -

I'm using American Megatrends Inc v.1003.004 according to my probe program. But it is simply the bios my auto BIOS updater got for me, I have an ASUS motherboard btw.
But if you have an auto updater application I'm sure it'll get the right bios for your computer.


 
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8th September, 2005 at 09:38:07 -

Your CPU temp is pretty high, nearly 70°C, it may be overheating.
Alternatively maybe your power supply isn't up to the job. If you're running a lot of components off a low wattage power supply unit, it won't be able to handle the load at peaks and may cut out. Or, it might just be faulty and can't keep power running very well.

 
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8th September, 2005 at 15:19:32 -

yeah 68°C is very high for an idle temperature (did you take those bios readings just after you turned the pc on?)... I'd check that out. I don't know too about the fan speeds, but you might have to give the heatsink a good clean (it might be clogged up if it's quite an old pc), or oil the bearings in the fan.

 
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8th September, 2005 at 16:28:52 -

it kind of botheres me
i build this pc myself but i had no clue what cooler i should get so i asked at the shop
and they were like "what cooler do you want?" and i was like "i dont know thats why i am asking you"
and he was like "what cooler do you want?" again and i was like "i really dont know about coolers. what do you suggest" and he was like "what cooler do you want?" and i was like "how about you give me some options" and he was like "what cooler do you want? we have got 200 different coolers" and i was like "i dont know. some cooler that is pretty silent"
i fucking hate such service

well i think i will buy myself some water cooler
and i just looked at the temp after it rebooted itself- i am sure now. it IS overheading (i also opened my case so the air can get out better)

 
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9th September, 2005 at 13:36:23 -

You did get a CPU heatsink right?

 
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9th September, 2005 at 15:30:17 -

I dont know if this is the answer, & I dont really feel like going through & reading everything other people said yet, so here's my 2 cents. If it was me, before messing with the inside of my PC, I'd check to see in the MSConfig, just to see if something MIGHT have been inserted there & isnt being classified a virus. It might be some sort of timer that ticks & then restarts the PC at will. Now I dont know if anyone said this yet, but I'm just saying what I would check first. If you dont know where it is, which some people dont, go into Start & click Run, then type in MSConfig, then look in the Startup tab. Hope this helps at all.

 
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9th September, 2005 at 18:09:21 -

I used to have this problem myself (computer would restart itself) and it turns out there is an option in Windows XP that restarts the computer instead of showing a blue screen of death...

To check go to Control Panel->System-> Go to Advanced tab, locate "Startup and Recovery" and click settings. find "System Failure" and make sure that "Automatically Restart" is unchecked.

 
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9th September, 2005 at 19:21:02 -

mwa hahahaha, you say 69 c is bad, i fried bacon as an experiment on my celeron and my pc is still running, around 58 c is ideal, 38 degrees is what you can get with a watercooler, older cpus such as pentium 2 dont even need a fan.
Your problem can be a harddrive problem, see if your harddrive has been recalled because thats happened to me once and i was pissed.

 
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9th September, 2005 at 19:24:06 -

Also the number one secret to stop a restart initiated by a worm is to go into command prompt, type shutdown -a and it wont restart.

 
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10th September, 2005 at 00:58:18 -

That's a secret? haha.
That doesn't always solve restarts, it does stop the 'blaster' worm. Anyone who still has that worm is a retard though.

It's doubtful you're getting that many system failures, and all this advice is probably just messing with settings that'd be better to not be 'unchecked'. It's either your CPU or your power supply. My guess is your CPU, mine is always around 40*c.


 
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10th September, 2005 at 12:27:10 -

lol ok, but before I unchecked it my computer would restart just about all the time when using the ATI tv wonder .

 
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