Tell me again why anyone supported it? I dunno, it seems to be pointless, even more so than the Vietnam war. The war in Afghanistan I understood, even if they did drop the food packages in the same spot as the cluster bombs, they still did scatter the terrorists.
But Iraq? Saddam is no terrorist. An evil dictator maybe, but he was elected to power, making the war to overthrow him the very opposite of democracy. Doesn't matter whether or not he cheated, though few people would say that even.
Why all the whinings about the good old Americans dying to liberate a country? They killed plenty of innocent civilians. The innocent civilians died defending their country from western invaders. I'm not saying anyone deserved to die, I'm saying that nobody out there deserved it, the Iraqis or the Americans. The civilians just shot to defend themselves. The soldiers just fought because it was part of their job.
The worst thing of all is that once everything is done, they're replacing Saddam with a president that's just as cruel, but doesn't even have a sense of humor. WTF? All that death, murder, international debt and all they've accomplished is switching the iron glove to different fist.
What happens even if they win this war in Iraq? There won't be less terrorists. Hell, there'll be TWICE as many terrorists as so many people get pissed off at the killing and torture of the innocents, whether in the west or middle east. Then more people would be going all "Why did the terrorists do this to us? We didn't do anything!"
Even all that oil wouldn't be enough to pay off all the dead family members AND pay off all the national debt + interest they took to occupy the country. I dunno... this war is just... sad.
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9th November, 2005 at 05:53:04 -
"An evil dictator maybe, but he was elected to power, making the war to overthrow him the very opposite of democracy"
Stop there, Muz. Hitler was elected to power too, are you saying that World War 2 was the opposite of democracy? Saddam gassed his own people, sanctioned torture and murder, and endorsed the actions of other terrorists. He WAS a terrorist.
Haha, I used to be so firmly pro-war simply because everyone else wasn't. You're wrong about the ousting of Saddam being anti-democratic though, as pete said. About my stance on the war, something had to be done but I don't think they went the right way about it.
Ohh...my...goodness...I see a thirty page flame war in the future.
-"Why all the whinings about the good old Americans dying to liberate a country?"
Stop whinning yourself son.
-Pete hit is right on..."Saddam is no terrorist" I would need some evidence that he didn't kill thousands of his own people.
-"He was elected to power" I would be elected too if I said "vote for me or I'll kill you"
-According to the Compact Oxford English Dictionary democracy is defined as :a form of government in which the people have a voice in the exercise of power, typically through elected representatives.
-As you said Saddam was a dictator.
-According to that definition dictators are the opposite of democracy.
-"They killed plenty of innocent civilians" Please don't make assertions unless you are willing to back it up with evidence. Show me the money and I'll believe you. I could say "the Americans were cutting kids arms off!" but that doesn't mean you should believe me.
-"They're replacing Saddam with a president that's just as cruel" Uhhh...Does the new presiden't rape girls?
-"but doesn't even have a sense of humor. WTF?"
Hahaha...Now this is a valid point.
It sounds like to me your just whinning about the war yourself.
I think something had to be done about Saddam, but I don't think there motives we're entirely right. If they're that seious about stopping terror, why don't they attack other murderous human-rights violating nations, like Israel?
They only attacked them because they have oil, and it's the reason why they're still there.
Bush and Blair took us to war simply because there hadn't been a proper war for a bit. America needed to show their dominance - and Britain is always going to stand by and support. Afghanistan wasn't big and scary enough, so they invented a reason to invade Iraq. Saddam has always been a dictator, so why choose now to dispose of him? To scare the living daylights out of Iran, North Korea and all those other "Axis of Evil" nations, that's why. Only it's backfired because it's created terrorists where there were none before.
The end result is that we live in a place with a lot more terrorists and a lot less allies.
At first I was supportive of the war. Saddam's a dictator, so it's only right we got rid of him. But the reasons for the timing of this, plus the unending occupation are all wrong. Now I'm not supportive of the war.
The war doesn't even have a name, how pathetic is that?
Politics Stink! Why are we Americans stuck with an idiot president anyway? Bush seems to just be trying again after his daddy lost a war to Iraq. Stupid Texans.
The problem with Bush is that he's incompetent...he's not an evil man, he just has no idea how to run things.
I think that taking out Saddam was a good thing to do overall; now they don't have an evil dictator...but now America can't pull out because they need to finish what they started. This will cost more time, money, and most importantly lives. And, through it all, another whacko will be elected in Iraq.
Fine Garbage since 2003.
CURRENT PROJECT:
-Paying off a massive amount of debt in college loans.
-Working in television.
That aint necessarily true. America can back out whenever they want. Theyre just too afraid to be looked down on to do such a thing. Also on the added fact Bush is too stupid to realise that he is stupid and doesnt have it in him to make his first intelligent decision. Ah well, I personally don't know anyone who supported the attack, so its all good. Its hard to believe anyone would.
Classic George W. Bush Quote - "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
[i]-Pete hit is right on..."Saddam is no terrorist" I would need some evidence that he didn't kill thousands of his own people.[/i]You should've looked up 'terrorist' while you had the OED out.
I don't tend to hear much on this 'war' in recent times. Although it appears there's still more and more casulties, with or without Sadam. And from what i've heard relief from other nations troops doesn't seem to be doing a great deal.
I honestly think that all troops should be withdrawn at this point. If they're doing more harm than good, then especially. And if that's the case, then they could at least withdraw troops for an amount of time just to see how the country handles itself. At least the nations in question can breath a bit easier knowing that their troops won't become casulties of this almost pointless 'war'.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what grinds my gears.
WE COULD!
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Registered 05/07/2002
Points 185
10th November, 2005 at 02:02:32 -
Cause you're a robot?
"Isn't it always amazing how we characterize a person's intelligence by how closely their thinking matches ours?"
~Belgarath
Grrr, its not a war. Its a silly little 'attack'. America know they're stronger than they are, they have nothing to prove. What bugs me most is Britains involvment in the whole thing. Wtf are they on? seriously.
Aww man, there are soooo many silly Bush quotes, its hard to believe he's even president! "I'm the commander — see, I don't need to explain — I do not need to explain why I say things. That's the interesting thing about being president."
- I mean...who says that?
Theres an entire website dedicated to them for godsake. They have 'Top 50' and everything!
Bush isn't exactly the problem, it's the idiocy of the nation that bred him. By that I'm not saying that all americans are stupid, I mean that the institutions and pop culture of the country is a load of cheesy pretensious bollocks. That's not grammatically incorrect, I'm using 'institutions and pop culture' as a single item.
That kind of placed can't breed a good leader. I don't know where it all went wrong, America had charm whilst Kennedy was around. But America is an unintelligent nation.
I agree indeed. But being led by their own kind isnt exactly helping the country shape up now is it? It's a shame the most powerful and economically advanced country around doesnt have the intelligence to use it wisely.
Though its cool. It won't be long before Bill Gates actually buys America and alters it to a point where they build super cool robots called the Microsoftigators or something. Thats a kick ass robot right there! Though it would crash alot
@Teapot M: Actually, it's mostly just Texans that are idiots. In other parts of the US there are a lot of smart people, it's just that the STUPID TEXANS drag the rest of us down. Texas should be it's own country, then we could all make fun of them instead of all of america.
@SyCo: If Bill Gates bought America I would flee to Canada before everything started crashing, It would be really scary to live in a place with traffic lights crashing, don't you think?
Here are some more funny Bush Quotes:
"The vast majority of our imports come from outside the country."
- George W. Bush
"If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure."
- George W. Bush
"One word sums up probably the responsibility of any Governor, and that one word is 'to be prepared'."
- Governor George W. Bush
"I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future."
- Governor George W. Bush
"The future will be better tomorrow."
- Governor George W. Bush
"We're going to have the best educated American people in the world."
- Governor George W. Bush
"I stand by all the misstatements that I've made."
- Governor George W. Bush
"We have a firm commitment to NATO, we are a part of NATO. We have a firm commitment to Europe. We are a part of Europe."
- Governor George W. Bush
"Public speaking is very easy."
- Governor George W. Bush
"A low voter turnout is an indication of fewer people going to the polls."
- Governor George W. Bush
"We are ready for any unforeseen event that may or may not occur."
- Governor George W. Bush
"For NASA, space is still a high priority."
- Governor George W. Bush
"Quite frankly, teachers are the only profession that teach our children."
- Governor George W. Bush
"It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it."
- Governor George W. Bush
"It's time for the human race to enter the solar system."
- Governor George W. Bush
Bill gates buying America? I thought it was a free country.
er well anyway
this 'war on terror' seems right since these extremists are blowing themselves up all over the world, however unless the entire middle east gets bombed to fuck it's going to make little difference. And anyway muslims are all over the world, all of them potential terrorists. I do wonder how these twats get changed from nice normal people (because they're always really nice beforehand) into complete nutters.
Iraq is one of many places considered 'evil'. Who's next? North korea? Iran? Pakistan? the truth is this is more widespread than anyone really thought, this war will go on for generations.
Erm...i doubt it dude. The majority of countries don't have major international wars against countries they know can kick their ass (ie America) From what i know. Iran are pretty neutral. Pakistan have issues within their own territory. Its like saying the whole israel and palestine thing is a big ass war. Coz it isnt. I guess at the end of the day it depends on who gets involved and how big a deal its made by the media.
Oh and surely you know that Bill Gates actually buys free stuff coz he's so frickin rich.
If you believe the british media, Iran wants to build nukes and blow up the west because their new leader is a raving loony. And Pakistan has a major population of extremists.
An attack is just a fight. A war is what happens when there's lots of fights. Yeah, it's not really a war, more of an occupation . But whatever it is, it still kills people from both sides.
Point is democracy just don't work . In "evil" countries, the leaders torture and threaten people to vote for them. In the evilest countries, the leaders like Saddam and Hitler actually charm people into voting for them with thier delusions of grandeur, broken promises, and brainwashing. In the good nations, companies like Wal-Mart bribe the leading parties with plenty of campaign funds, which they use to put their faces on tv and smear the opposing party. Of course, that means that any policies regarding pollution, dumping, labor, anything that lowers the amount of funds they get next election are not likely to exist . Now who's the democratic one?
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when was i ignorant. and what wud pakistan have to do with it. Don't get me wrong, i cud be wrong. Most of the stuff i say is either my opinion or "what i hear".
i have a pakistani friend that told me that pakistan had little wars going on between them. Probably a society thing. but i dunno. given he himself was pakistani i figured he'd be a reliable source for information ON pakistan. Et voila, ive just explained myself.
I don't really know why, but it seems that people tend to bias themselves either heavily against or towards their own race. I've met plenty of people who say Malaysians are rude, polite, etc, but if some of these Malaysians just went out and stayed in another country for a while, they can see that every human being, regardless of culture, is either rude or polite.
Meh, most of the countries have little wars among themselves. "Developed" countries have little wars between men and women saying they don't get equal treatment, despite the existence of women groups, the lack of existence of men groups, equal pay, maternity leave, etc. There will always be riots, protests against the government, races and sub-races (people of some races from different states) fighting for territory & equality, etc. I'm so damn sick of all the discrimination and all the people who fight against discrimination that doesn't exist. Hmm.. I seem a bit angry this week .
Oh well, we all base our information on what we hear. There's nothing we could believe, especially when the press exaggerates things just to sell more newspapers. There's some things we aren't allowed to believe, like the existence of God, the theory of evolution, the idea that the 3 main monotheistic religions are worshipping the same God, clones having souls, Satan is an angel, our armies killing innocent babies, etc. Suggest such things in the newspapers and you'll get fired. Suggest such things in a forum topic and it could get locked.
But then, it happens. Theories are proven false. Pictures and movies are shown of some innocent western journalists' and tourists' head being chopped off. Pictures are shown of innocent Palestinian kids with bullets in them. But the unfair deaths are unintentional. It's only evil when you kill someone who'd kill you back.
Who are the bad guys? Who are the good guys? Why should we really care at all? After all, everyone dies eventually, what's another quick, painful death mean to us? I guess the easiest answer to this question is that whatever side we're on is "good", and whatever happens to the "evil" people is well-deserved. After all, we're good people, whenever another good person gets hurt, we have to feel sorry for them. Wouldn't they do the same for us?
Damn, I've confused myself again. I feel like deleting this thread..
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So what if i'm older than politics (and the universe itself), I'd hate them even if I was a young'n. I know that this stuff is important to many people , but it's not my problem. If some guy decides to blow up my house I have a problem; but if it's just some guy making a whole bunch of (stupid) speaches, why should I care?
Well, I care what happens to those people, it's just not my problem and I don't need to know about it. There isn't much I can do about terrorism, so I'll just let the government do all of the work while I'm having fun.
I think you are little whining people, and you should shut up. Saddam was a terrorist too, and this is a war on terrorists, therefore, he is taken out too. Stop crying... wars make history class fun. If people die, who cares... they don't have to live a long boring life anyways, and they are possibly living a better life somewhere else. Bush isnt the problem. He doesnt even run the country. Hes like a mascot. A stupid badass mascot. Microsoft Runs the US.
Muz is right, but his point is a little misguided. Democracy never works perfectly, you're right. The same as communism never works, monarchy, republicanism - no one government system will ever work perfectly, due to greed, discrimination and all of humanities failings. But to say that democracy isn't a good idea is wrong, and I'm convinced it is the only feasible strategy in today's world.
And on the Pakistani thing - Pakistan and India have been engaged in conflict for as long as Pakistan has been around. The main agenda being Kashmir, and who owns it. Isn't really a war because neither country has declared it, and mainly because war would be politically and economically damaging for both countries, them being developing nations. So the animosity will continue just like it has done for 30-40 odd years, and will only end if a diplomatic agreement signed by both about Kashmir is made.
Well, I care what happens to those people, it's just not my problem and I don't need to know about it. There isn't much I can do about terrorism, so I'll just let the government do all of the work while I'm having fun.
One reason why terrorism still even exists is that so many people think like you. Don't you see, in a few decades you will BE the government.
In a few decades I might be in the government. First of all, now is not a few decades from now. Second of all, not very many people ever will be gevernment; In a few years i'll have the right to vote, but that's different. Maybe I wasn't clear enough in my last post. Terrorism is kinda my problem, because they could attack me at any time; it's very very unlikely, but not completely impossible. It's just not my job to help track down the terrorists from London, NYC, or any other place. I'm just some kid who doesn't really follow the news or anything. It's kinda hard to explain really, I care, but it's just not my problem.
The American government works so well cause it is based on lies. The easiest way to get these lies across to the people is simple, they raise their children with them. The American public school system is the weakest form of brainwashing evar. I mean come on, the christains have been doing it forever.
If you really sat their and thought about it, the stuff they teach you in history class really doesn't add up. IE, the whole slavery issue. Lincoln wasn't on some crusade to free the slaves. That war wasn't even fought for slavery, that's just what we force fed our children. The war was fought to keep the south from being independant, and they we're no less evil than the north, the north had slaves, the north didn't care about blacks. Hell, Lincoln didn't even free the slaves, it was that ammendment that was passed way later after he died.
The war is being fought for nothing more than oil. Why don't you think that Bush doesn't go after the more threatening powers, such as North Korea? The only thing that is different between Iraq and NK is the fact that Iraq has oil.
Two of my very best friends are fighting in this war, and they are terribly miserable. The stories they tell me are just appauling. It's totally unneccessary for America to be there.
Democracy is over-rated. There are other more stable forms of government that can work without lying to the people, but everyone has been told since they were little that Democracy is the only way. It's a shame that Confederacy gets such a bad rap, because it's problably the most stable type of government.
Hmm, well you've got a point about the slavery thing, but I don't think they're brainwashing kids (like me) to think that the American government is perfect. I go to public school and I still hate George Bush and think that he's doing an awful job. I don't, however, think that the whole government is flawed, I think it's just not doing so well not 'cause of George Bush; Maybe they are brainwashing me into thinking that, I cannot be sure. I think Oil probabally was the main cause of the War in Iraq; all of the major gas companies probabally had a lot to do with it. I just hope we get a better president in 2008.
Yeah, the whole concept of brainwashing is very fickle. Look around at some of your classmates. How many of them actually pay attention in school? Depending on how adjusted they are to their education, how do they shape their governmental beliefs.
SFAL has a point... whoever gets elected WILL screw up the country one way or another. True leaders are few and far between... Elizabeth I, G. Washington, Isabella, Mahathir, Genghis Khan... only those few have truly made a difference in their country. However... there are people who'd screw up the country more than others, and the main purpose of democracy.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not against democracy, I'm against republics where the leaders get to do everything they want. True democracy is good. True democracy is something where every citizen will have a say in their laws and stuff, through emails, letters, votes, anything. But pure democracy is bad. Pure democracy leads to stuff like in those Idol shows, where the technically best win and the people who are overall the best don't. In a government, that would mean that the most educated and "experienced" would win, aside from racial biases and stuff. Philosophical liberals don't stand much of a chance.
As for brainwashing... I think you guys have been brainwashed by the media to think that GW Bush is actually worse than he is. He's nothing more than a puppet. A puppet who fights for what he truly believes in. But unfortunately, what he believes in is what his advisors tell him...
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Ha, I never said anything about Bush. I don't even watch TV. With the whole brainwashing concept I didn't even get to Bush.
The main point however you look at it, the American government is corrupt, and it's been corrupt since it started. America was founded by liars and criminals, outcasts if you will. America rose to a world power how? By mass producing slavery and selling arms to warring countries.
I was against the whole Iraq thing from the beginning. In fact, I made a game called World War 2003 as a satire, and finished it about a week before the war started. I agree with what you said about brainwashing, but such a thing is by no means limited to classrooms. How the media affected public opinion in the months leading up to the war (that is, working the American public into a war mentality) is a perfect example. We were basically told that we, for some weird reason, "hated America" if we didn't support this war.
I'm afraid that, in some ways, I agree with you too, Jesus. As much as we Americans honor our founding fathers, they lied to the Native Americans, stole their land, murdered and enslaved them, went to other lands to conquer more people and take more slaves, and committed a number of other atrocities. Truth be told, the "greatest country in the world" has had a less than great past...
Well, technically, few empires rose to greatness nicely. The United States of America, British Empire, Roman Empire, China, Japan, most of them were united by violence as violence is the only language most warring rebels understand. But I guess there were nicer empires, like the Persian Empire, though that was toppled easily by just a few invading Greeks...
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Persian "Empire" was no less violent than any of those you just mentioned, and it was never toppled by any Greeks. I wouldn't class the US as an empire, as it didn't/doesn't even colonise or conquer anywhere - which is pretty unique for a world power.
British Empire was the best and the only one which wasn't ended by opposition armies/rebels.
OMG... what the hell do they teach you kids in schools these days?
The Persian Empire was a fairly peaceful one, maybe not in the case of it's rise to greatness, but it stayed a very peaceful place for years... till Alexander decided that it was too easy a target and easily took over once city to another. Maybe they didn't conquer it fully, but it was all those Greek victories really weakened them.
The US *IS* a colony. It started off as a British North American colony. They *conquered* almost all of North America. Of course, there was nobody there to really kill, except for the millions of Native Americans/American Indians.
The British Empire, according to our schoolbooks, was an evil, oppressive empire that colonized our country for resources and enslaved the locals via intimidation. Our school syllabus includes about 5 years of history of heroes who dared rebel against the British Empire as well as their evilness. We did win via democracy, but the schools brainwashes us into thinking that the British Empire would've lost anyway. It wasn't directly ended by rebels, but there were too many rebellions around the world for it to have maintained its power.
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"as it didn't/doesn't even colonise or conquer anywhere"
"Damn. Those Native Americans must really not be that significant.
We totally conquered the hell out of America."
Don't forget Mexico (remember the Alamo?), the Hawaiian islands, the Samoan islands, Puerto Rico, the Phillippines, and various other nations the US tried and/or succeeded to take as American territories.
Mexico - Never conquered by America.
Hawaii - Conquered by Britain I believe, and handed over to the US.
Samoa - American Samoa (population 70,000). Other Samoan islands not controlled by US.
Puerto Rico - Actually under Spanish control when US and Spain were at war. Thus they took over it.
Phillipines - "Spain was forced by Paris officials to hand over Guam, the Philippines, and Puerto Rico to the United States in exchange for US$20,000,000.00, which the United States later claim to be a gift."
This video is by far the most disturbing to come out of the Iraq war. Show me a yank 'soldier' blown to bits or executed slowly with a blunt knife and I'll barely bat an eyelid, what this video shows is disturbing beyond words and causes one to question the mentality of the military meat the yanks churn out.
By a route obscure and lonely,
Haunted by ill angels only,
Where an Eidolon, named night,
On a black throne reigns upright,
I have reached these lands but newly
From an ultimate dim Thule
From a wild clime that lieth, sublime,
Out of space
Out of time.
"Mexico - Never conquered by America.
Hawaii - Conquered by Britain I believe, and handed over to the US.
Samoa - American Samoa (population 70,000). Other Samoan islands not controlled by US.
Puerto Rico - Actually under Spanish control when US and Spain were at war. Thus they took over it.
Phillipines - "Spain was forced by Paris officials to hand over Guam, the Philippines, and Puerto Rico to the United States in exchange for US$20,000,000.00, which the United States later claim to be a gift."
See? Never conquered anywhere."
Mexico - What is now Texas used to be owned by Mexico.
Hawaii - Wrong. America recognized Hawaii as an independent nation in 1826, and Britain and France did so in 1843. The islands were illegally annexed by President McKinley in 1898, after the "Bayonet Constitution" stripped the native people of their land rights. For more info, check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayonet_Constitution
Samoa - I was referring to American Samoa.
Puerto Rico - actually, you're right on this one
Phillippines - like most of America, you are forgetting the 1899 Filipino-American War, the brutal war that followed the Spanish-American war. America (still hungry for western expansion) tried to declare the Phillippines an American colony. American author, Mark Twain, wrote extensively about this war. An interesting article on Twain and the Filipino-American War can be viewed at http://www.loc.gov/rr/hispanic/1898/twain.html
"Mexico - Never conquered by America.
Hawaii - Conquered by Britain I believe, and handed over to the US.
Samoa - American Samoa (population 70,000). Other Samoan islands not controlled by US.
Puerto Rico - Actually under Spanish control when US and Spain were at war. Thus they took over it.
Phillipines - "Spain was forced by Paris officials to hand over Guam, the Philippines, and Puerto Rico to the United States in exchange for US$20,000,000.00, which the United States later claim to be a gift."
See? Never conquered anywhere."
"The New World" - Conquered by Americans to make up what is now America.
The "United States" is just another word for Empire . The name just misleads you into thinking that it was done in a nice way. Sure, they signed stuff, the governors agreed to unite into one massive country... but the states themselves were taken from the natives. It's a very similar style to the feudal days when warlords used to conquer their own stuff, later to be united to a bigger country. But as it's been around so long and has such great PR, nobody ever believes it is an empire. Who wouldn't support a native-slaying, African enslaving, anti-communist, profit-focused country who overthrows presidents and kill terrorists in the name of Lady Freedom?
I'm kinda wondering what effect European Union would have on the world in the future. Hmm.. same currency, trying to pass similar laws, sounds like the Soviet Union to me .
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I know thet George W. Bush is a misearble failure, but the only reason that that comes up first in google is because of a bunch of "hackers" (if you will) that figured out Googles system for finding relavent pages, and abused it. I think that they all have a ton of blogs that have terms such as "miserable failure" and "idiot" and then put links to sites about George W. Bush. It's still kinda funnt though.
""The New World" - Conquered by Americans to make up what is now America. "
*Sigh* There were no Americans before America was colonised you dipshit. Is was all done by Europeans, mainly British and Spanish, but also Dutch, French etc. And when you say "America" do you mean the US or the Americas?
So Bush just attacked Iraq because Shaddam Hussein was the most evil person he knew at the moment? Oh how fun it would be to be a president of world leading country... I could just decide to attack someone I think is evil and kill loads of civilians in process and tell afterwards that it was just necessary collateral damage.
War and shooting is so much fun, I wonder why don't we set all countries' laws as they have in america, so you can carry a gun if you want... It woud be much safer for everyone, wouldn't it? To know that if someone seems or feels to threaten you, you can just shoot him/her.
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