My mother knows someone who wrote a simple song, and emailed it to her friend. One line said something against presidents in general.
The next day, her account was terminated, and later, the FBI showed up and confiscated and destoyed her hard drive.
It took lots of legal crap to not have to be jailed. Preposterous!
If you stopped someone on the street and handed them a Bible, for example, this could be considered an act of terrorism ("...use of force to promote the individual's religious beliefs...")
If you sent a barrage of angry letters to Washington about global warming and the destruction of the environment by the U.S. military, this could also be considered an act of terrorism ("...to promote the individual's political beliefs...")
If you believe in same-sex marriage and you wrote a letter threatning a sit-in protest in front of your state's capitol building, this could also be considered an act of terrorism, even if you never carried it out! ("...planned use of force to promote a social belief...")
This is ridiculous. [Government edit] SUPAR DUPAR AWESOME KEEP IT UP GUYS [/Government edit].
Basically, its patriot act fever; A bill that forces the politicians to vote for it even though NOT A SINGLE CONGRESSMAN has actually read it, but to vote against it makes you unamerican. Then we spend the next 8 years trying to describe how absurdly anti-constitutional it was.
Its the backdoor, shadowy approach. As long as the media doesn't pick it up, they can pass any sort of fucked up law they want.
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I forget the exact percentage, but the majority of British Muslims want Sharia Law in England. Ever since I watched Doctor Who I WANTED TO GO BACK IN TIME.
Lets not turn this into "I HAVE THE BEST COUNTRY LOLZORZ" thread, the majority of countries nowadays are pretty shit in places, occasionally scattered with goodness.
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Originally Posted by Pixelthief Basically, its patriot act fever; A bill that forces the politicians to vote for it even though NOT A SINGLE CONGRESSMAN has actually read it, but to vote against it makes you unamerican. Then we spend the next 8 years trying to describe how absurdly anti-constitutional it was.
Its the backdoor, shadowy approach. As long as the media doesn't pick it up, they can pass any sort of fucked up law they want.
That sort of thing would never work in the UK. It's not PC to be patriotic. In worst cases it's supposed to be offensive to immigrants to show affection for the country.
So thats one thing the UK loses at in my opinion. I'd much rather be patriotic. Even if there is rarely anything to get exited about the place nowadays.
Hmm the Olympics maybe. But then again we'll probably celebrate how many different nations represent our 'multicultural britain' rather than just saying... well nothing.
Freedom of speech is overrated. But in this case it's worrying. Now Americans have the same degree of freedom Malaysia has always had .
Last week, a group opposed several of the government's policies, marching in an illegal street rally then getting blasted with tear gas and water cannons. It wasn't a riot; just a demonstration. The government is discussing putting the leaders in jail for attempting to incite racial riots or so.
Pfft.. two-party system? We have lots of political parties but so far, since Malaysia's independence, only one party has ever won the elections.
Oh, and if you think your govt has a corrupt system, well... I was about to post about something that's happened in this country, but posting negative comments about the government in a blog or so can be considered slander and some people have been arrested for it. And I'm not even implying that the govt is corrupt or supresses the freedom of speech, because that's a jailable offense too. Any politicians who think I was implying such a thing is stupid
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America's 'Democracy' died years ago when the Electoral vote was introduced.
I don't know if anyone has heard this or not, but President Douche, the Canadian Prime Minister, and EL PRESIDENTE OF MEHECOZ(tm) are working towards a Union between their countries (the Dollar would become the Americo). Even more disturbing, Bushy signed a bill that gives FEMA the right to suspend elections during a 'National Crises', and the ability to call Martial Law. Remember, these are the guys who fucked up Hurricane Katrina.
Democracy is dead; I'm going to become a Hobo and sail away to Hobo Island where I can live in peace among the other filthy lepers.
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Originally Posted by AndyUK [Ectoprods] That sort of thing would never work in the UK. It's not PC to be patriotic. In worst cases it's supposed to be offensive to immigrants to show affection for the country.
So thats one thing the UK loses at in my opinion. I'd much rather be patriotic. Even if there is rarely anything to get exited about the place nowadays.
Hmm the Olympics maybe. But then again we'll probably celebrate how many different nations represent our 'multicultural britain' rather than just saying... well nothing.
I HATE patriotism. The UK aren't overly patriotic, because of our mentallity, mostly!? We're 'down-to-earth' and laid-back and generally have our heads in the right place. We aren't generally whacky crazed-out lunatics like you see in some parts of the world. That doesn't just go for the UK though... several European countries are the same too.
This isn't to say that people in places outside of Europe are all insane moronic whatever's, obviously. I hate it when people jump to conclusive accusations like that ¬_¬ All of us here are seemingly free of any psychotic disfunctionalities, lol. Apart from maybe one or two
Anyways, hopefully you get what I mean without trying to find and take offense from it.
I hope guys say that you hate America you mean the US, and that when you mean the US you mean silly politicians--the majority of US citizens are fed up with our leaders as well, but it's not easy to just move away.
The guy in the article concentrates on the word "force", but not violence. I think ideally, the bill could be used to stop people from posting things on the internet like "Let's get together and kill those black jerks down the street. Hey, you can't do anything, freedom of speech!"
And the things that he lists that we'll lose (letter-writing campaigns that deluge the Senate with too much mail, sit-in protests that block access to a business or organization, and grassroots e-mail campaigns that overload the e-mail servers of any government department or agency) if this bill passes are sort of psuedo-non-violent terrorist acts themselves, in that they prevent the daily function of the governement or of private businesses.
Protesting within the system never works, and only serves to cement the current political ideologies through hegemonically.
Originally Posted by AndyUK [Ectoprods] That sort of thing would never work in the UK. It's not PC to be patriotic. In worst cases it's supposed to be offensive to immigrants to show affection for the country.
So thats one thing the UK loses at in my opinion. I'd much rather be patriotic. Even if there is rarely anything to get exited about the place nowadays.
Hmm the Olympics maybe. But then again we'll probably celebrate how many different nations represent our 'multicultural britain' rather than just saying... well nothing.
I HATE patriotism. The UK aren't overly patriotic, because of our mentallity, mostly!? We're 'down-to-earth' and laid-back and generally have our heads in the right place. We aren't generally whacky crazed-out lunatics like you see in some parts of the world. That doesn't just go for the UK though... several European countries are the same too.
This isn't to say that people in places outside of Europe are all insane moronic whatever's, obviously. I hate it when people jump to conclusive accusations like that ¬_¬ All of us here are seemingly free of any psychotic disfunctionalities, lol. Apart from maybe one or two
Anyways, hopefully you get what I mean without trying to find and take offense from it.
No offence taken.
I was only comparing the United states and the UK. I don't know too much about many countries.
But anyway i think that being proud of your country is good. For one thing it's a reason to bring people together. But the wrong way to do it is to gloat about how much better your country is compared to others.
If the England national football team had qualified for Euro 2008 we would have seen people down the pub cheering us on. As it is we will probably cheer on the teams playing against Russia and Croatia.
But that is the only time this happens.
I just feel people are too cold towards each other nowadays. If you pass a stranger in the street you are more likely to expect to get mugged or have your child stolen then have someone say good morning or ask for the time. It really is a sad state of affairs.
I just feel people are too cold towards each other nowadays. If you pass a stranger in the street you are more likely to expect to get mugged or have your child stolen then have someone say good morning or ask for the time. It really is a sad state of affairs.
People today equate patriotism with jingosim---it's not the same, and there's more to a country than its government. The US offers many caring, world-conscious people, and loving your country doesn't mean you have to be a gun-toting Arab-hating hillbilly. These days it's not hip to like living in the US, but no government is perfect, and pretty soon some other country will become the #1 world power and everyone will hate them too.
Depends where you live. People are nice up here, people will say hi back to you.
And Guru Rinpoche, I do mean the politicians. I also mean citizens who violently "hate gays", those who love their guns, the racist ones, the ones who burn up all the gas etc.
And the US media, the cult of celebrity. et al.
It's true, the US was founded on almost boundless freedom, and it's going to be hard for people to accept that boundless freedom is quite detrimental. I don't think guns laws (or any of similar type) would help the US, because it's the US spirit that needs reworking. Although, Europe doesn't have the best track record either, and only became more tame once they lost control of the world.
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Mexico unifying the Peso with the Dollar? That's like saying Britney Spears had sex with Freddie Mercury.
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People should start looking more at individuals and less at groups... Even though each country has its own culture this is no reason to dismiss "everyone" in that country. Just say "Bush sucks" instead of "lol, America".
Originally Posted by DaVincerklaas [Ectoprods] Ahahah, that made my... Night?
People should start looking more at individuals and less at groups... Even though each country has its own culture this is no reason to dismiss "everyone" in that country. Just say "Bush sucks" instead of "lol, America".
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