Admin, would it be possible to notify the creator of a thread when you delete their thread and why, especially if it's a serious thread? I think I deserve an explanation as to why my thread about making peace on TDC has been deleted? Perhaps a fight started on it whilst I was asleep? If not, it wasn't some joke or spam-thread, I was actually serious (for once, yes -_-), and I find it kinda sad that a thread about making peace has been deleted.
I posted it under the Daily Click section:
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"Want to ask something about the site? Or you have comments good or bad? Post anything site related here."
So yeah, it would be nice to know why it's been deleted, several others agree with me.
I have mailed a couple of you personally about it too, but I think it should perhaps be a rule that the person is told why their thread is deleted (if not common decency)
I'm with Adam on this one, the thread (When I last looked anyway) seemed perfectly legit, sad it was deleted if there was no real reasoning for it. I agree a message should be sent to the topic creator if their thread gets deleted explaining the reason.
Deleting threads without explanation is, as said many times before, very lame. It's actually one of the two reasons I haven't posted anything serious in the last 3 years. Apart from that, there was nothing wrong with that thread. Deleting it was like burning a white flag or something.
Although I'm not exactly in love with Adam, I'd have to agree with him on this one.
My topics and others were deleted without telling why (although the reason wasn't obvious) which I find very annoying.
Of course if someone opens a topic which actually only says "I hate xxx with passion" or a topic about illegal stuff the explanation wouldn't be needed, but it happens many times that the reason is VERY not obvious.
Administrator don't have to notify about deleting thread. I don't think it's lame or rude or something else. Actually all the topics focusing on community members instead of something practical may be annoying for administrator.
Of course they should, if they want a community to work they can't keep playing gods and deleting topics because they personally don't like them, they need to look at if from everyone's point of view.
Originally Posted by Ranger Adam ... if they want a community to work they can't keep playing gods and deleting topics because they personally don't like them...
Originally Posted by BROO Administrator don't have to notify about deleting thread. I don't think it's lame or rude or something else. Actually all the topics focusing on community members instead of something practical may be annoying for administrator.
It's not a matter of rude or lame.
If a topic was deleted it means that the writer has done something wrong. The admins should let him know what was wrong so he won't repeat the same mistake.
Anyways... To be honest, the admins run the site - they can really do what they want without explanation, whether they should give you an explanation as to why they did or not, they certainly don't have to. You need to respect that really, even though it is unfair, the admins rule the roost in dictatorship here because that's the way it works online :\
I've had it done to me plenty of times at other forums, when requiring help or information on something, my topic has been removed for whatever bizzare reasons they had... though I just posted it again
An admin or two are actually hestitant to make any changes around the site, (which would enhance the site), because one or two members will kick up a fuss about it and effectively feel bullied!!! Ok, so they shouldnt care what one or two members think.. but they dont want the hassle :\ I've posted this before somewhere too not long ago, and I think Shab locked it..
I dunno who deleted it and why, but really we should respect the admins and their decisions and contributions and respect their choices for deleting and moderating the site as a whole, as it wouldn't be here without them... that's just the way it is and how it should be really! That's what I think - Leave 'em alone
No Tim, that's not the way it works. A successful community (like clickteam's forums( works with mutual understanding between the people that run it and the members, it's not a powermad BAN BAN BAN DELETE DELETE DELETE situation.
Community in which there are unbannable people, who also likes to make offtopic, simply is not a community with future. You are not the only one who would complain about having a topic deleted, but would you be happy if there were let's say 10 complain topics from UNKNOWN users? This would be annoying for you and administration as well.
Administrators of TDC makes a very good job. Just think about recent changes:
-> quotes, youtube embedding, or such adorable emoticons like
-> 'projects' section
-> 'polls' section
-> and a lot more you know better
What is more administrators aren't showing off with their powers. Well, we should be actually grateful that they continue to do a very good job and don't try to disturb them .
Originally Posted by BROO Administrators of TDC makes a very good job. Just think about recent changes:
-> quotes, youtube embedding, or such adorable emoticons like
-> 'projects' section
-> 'polls' section
-> and a lot more you know better
What is more administrators aren't showing off with their powers. Well, we should be actually grateful that they continue to do a very good job and don't try to disturb them .
Originally Posted by BROO Administrators of TDC makes a very good job. Just think about recent changes:
-> quotes, youtube embedding, or such adorable emoticons like
-> 'projects' section
-> 'polls' section
-> and a lot more you know better
What is more administrators aren't showing off with their powers. Well, we should be actually grateful that they continue to do a very good job and don't try to disturb them .
Originally Posted by Ranger Adam No Tim, that's not the way it works. A successful community (like clickteam's forums( works with mutual understanding between the people that run it and the members, it's not a powermad BAN BAN BAN DELETE DELETE DELETE situation.
Actually it's more like a LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK situation. The only two threads I posted there ended up locked without any reason given.
Yay, another "why is my topic or whatever deleted?" That figures.
I think it's more a matter of etiquette for admins to put up reasons for locking/deleting/editing stuff. I find it kinda rude when it happens. Not to mention, some people will get angry if it happens when it seems it's for no reasons.
If the admins would be so nice to put up reasons why they delete stuff, these kind of shitty topics and mails wouldn't even exist. Well not that I think this is shitty (I think this topic is useful ), but more in the perspective from the admins. Post reasons, and you don't get stuff like "What happened to my topic??? Wah wah wah, etc." Not to mention that the next time it happens, the same thing will repeat because they won't learn.
I see a forums that do post reasons for deletion (eg when they delete flames and every response to flames) and I think it's so much nicer because it clears up A LOT.
Clubsoft could code something that if a topic gets deleted the admin would have to type in the reason why before the topics is deleted, that reason field will then be mailed by the original topic poster. I think that should resolve everything right then and there, to make a rule that a admin should do this wont work in practise they just can't opt not to notify anyone but to force them to do so will
I am known to sometimes delete topics in its entire instead of locking it, i try to dc mail the original poster as much as I can. But again by having a field pop-up before a topic gets deleted and having that filed send to the original poster will once and for all solve this "issue"
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i remember reading that thread. don't remember what it was exactly about but it seemed harmless. i don't see why there is more pointless crap allowed to keep going and something harmless would get deleted. i'm curious as to why it got deleted. whoever deleted it, indulge?
I am convinced the admin panel has a "lock random topic" function. They press it once a week but it's using the complete database so there's like a 0,3% chance an active thread gets randomly locked.
Originally Posted by Hayo I am convinced the admin panel has a "lock random topic" function. They press it once a week but it's using the complete database so there's like a 0,3% chance an active thread gets randomly locked.
Uh no but that's not a bad idea, thanks
And regarding the original post - I have some plans to sort it out. Just don't know when I'll get round to coding them.
Originally Posted by Hayo "Uh no but that's not a bad idea, thanks"
Then it must have been a drunk rage
I don't know - still not sure who deleted the thread.
But if I was in a drunken rage, I'd probably just delete random users and accounts rather than a simple little thread
Depends on how you look at it. This used to be a nice community about click. Now it's a place full of gay babies and really weird admins. I don't have any problem with it myself.
Yes yes, and I love you for it, but I was actually talking about 2002/2003 but then again we had SHADOWCASTER back then who was like mega weird. He would delete topics and then delete all the witnesses.
I think it has something to do with low standards. Back then we had games like Shima bros that everybody liked while there's not that much to it, just a fun little game. It was good to know you could do fun little games and be ok. Now you can't get away with fun little stuff and you have to go all complicated to be even noticed, so most people abandon all their shit now because it's too much or get bashed when they still try to release fun little games. So they were good old days because it was simple and because of Shadowcasters GREAT sense of humour.
Well we can try and hassle ShadowCaster so that he'll come back?
To be honest, what I thought made this community great was the fact that people could make games whether good or bad and they'd receive constructive criticism for them.
I remember when I was a noob and I made crappy games, people would help me out and generally be nice to me.
Now we have people creating fake accounts and insulting each other on the forums, creating random crappy games and applications and not giving the new people constructive criticism. I just generally think the community has gotten full of people with their heads up their butts, who'd rather go around and humiliate or annoy people rather than make games. That's my view anyway. Obviously that's led to people abandoning games, like you said.
Originally Posted by Flava Well we can try and hassle ShadowCaster so that he'll come back?
To be honest, what I thought made this community great was the fact that people could make games whether good or bad and they'd receive constructive criticism for them.
I remember when I was a noob and I made crappy games, people would help me out and generally be nice to me.
Now we have people creating fake accounts and insulting each other on the forums, creating random crappy games and applications and not giving the new people constructive criticism. I just generally think the community has gotten full of people with their heads up their butts, who'd rather go around and humiliate or annoy people rather than make games. That's my view anyway. Obviously that's led to people abandoning games, like you said.
Ashman was exactly the kind of person that knew he could get away with more than most. I didn't find him all that funny, yet i realized he was acting up to get a laugh from people.
It's only in hindsight that we see people as funny rather than annoying. Well in my opinion anyway.
The 'any girls at TDC mp3' was awesome though, i found it again a few months ago but it seemed to be missing the part when the creators cracked up and laughed. Unless i'm mistaking that for something from Novabrain's grand adventure.
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